I can't say I never get greens ...

But I never get greens I am looking for. I hate trading for them. Because that is a waste of time. Either they know you want something specific so they wont sell at anything close to a reasonable price, or no one ever wants that green so no one farms for it.

Since Nightfall came out there are a few weapons I have tried to get. I have tried for an r9, max, inscribable Fiery Elonian Gladius. I have tried for Wioli's Artifact. I have tried for Darksong. (By the way, It took over a week with a friend hitting Hanaku for a couple hours at a time a few times a day to get his focus.) I have spent around 20 hours now, on three different days farming for Wioli's Artifact, which is not for sale. (I Hate Farming!) I have repeatedly gone after Kournans in HM for the gladius I want - never drops. I get lower quality blue ones in the 12-17 dmg range on rare occasions. A friend got Darksong and gave it to me as a present.

Now, I understand that you are supposed to feel some kind of rewarding exileration because you had to spend 50 years getting something accomplished. I don't and I won't. Like most people, it's 5 seconds of TGIO (Thank God it's Over!), and on to the next thing on the to do list. So where are we?

We are in a double drop rate weekend where I repeatedly went in and killed the same 7 monsters, Wioli is one of them, in order to get his green. After a dozen romps in and kills with NO deaths to our name (Myself and 3 healer heroes) we suddenly cant approach without dying. (There is no Farm code, there is no farm code, there is no farm code - repeat mantra.) Did the green drop before I got to fill up my invetory (1-2 drops maybe per round) - no it didnt. Do I now believe there is a double rate of green drops for the weekend. No I do not - unless double of Never drops = Never drops. (2x0=0)

Am I bitching, yes... I go to the free chests and get 0 gold and maybe another useless mesmer weapon - often they are purple. This is not because of going too often, I frequently dont go for 2 months at a time. People who go every 30 days get gold and gold drops. I tried that - and it didnt happen either. I play a great deal. I have noticed - since I am using my other account to help a friend - the account I dont normally play and hadnt since I bought 14 slots for my main - that that account gets better drops. It seems we are punished for being avid players.

With 10 characters to advance, around 300 titles to get for HoM (PvE player), armors, etc. It appears that those most dedicated to playing the game are to be punished for making an effort. - punished with bad and no drops.

I admire your effort to grind weapons. Unless there's an easy way to do it (like Exuro's Will, which I made a killing off of at the beginning of NF [100k/hour]), I generally won't. I either buy it, or use something else I picked up.

I think part of your lack of success is taking heroes and henchies along. It's pure shitty chance to actually get a green drop when you have them folk along. I know it's not possible with everything, but I've noticed that with a lot of greens, they can be farmed solo, or with only one other hero, provided you research the area you're going into.

Some people also just get the short end of the stick. I get purples from the free chests, and a few hundred gold at best. I've gotten only a few greens from playing, I've only ever gotten white birthday presents, and on top of that, no gold drops worth remembering except 1-2.

What bosses are you still looking to farm? Maybe I can offer some ideas, and if not, well, at least I tried .

Yea, try flagging your heros away. They'll steal your drops.

I don't care and neither should you, making a few posts in Ventari's will get you the green or equivalent weapon skin + mods in a few weeks of doing nothing.

PROTIP: you'll get the green when you happen to be going through that area, and kill the boss after you've got a replacement weapon; this game hates you like that.

I kind of know how the OP feels, I got the soulwailer by accident but haven't gotten dyawna's grace in all my farming attempts.

oh yeah this happens to me all the time
when factions came out i wanted to farm for Wings axe.
Simple right?
Well I tried and tried and tried...

and tried. But I never gotten one.
One day my brother offered to assist me in farming.
So we go out, and me and him kill Wing.
And of-fcking-course
Wings Axe drops for him
Im like WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF
greens do drop, but chances are low. Not extremely but low

Well yeah duh, greens suck these days and that's why people never sell them.(they dont even farm them anymore) If you're poor just use one of the end game greens. But otherwise I guess if you played GW 2 years earlier it would have been better, since everyone then was "green-crazy".(The Ugly Stick costed 75k, now? 1k) Also you should remember GW is solely a tool for entertainment, nothing more......So I guess play less and take it easy FTW? Yeah probably.

And btw, Anet isn't punishing anyone, it just happens that you have shtty luck. But don't worry, I tried the free chest last month, after a full 9 month gap, and what did I get? purples and 800-1000 gold.

I feel your pain. I bet you end up buying those weapons from someone, then later return and the weapon drops for you. Amirite?

Been there done that. So the chances of a green droping are normally around one in 500 thousand drops or some such high number. Like the OP, I am not normally the lucky guy to get one. I do have collection of greens, I get about one a month or so.
I can say that I have never gone out to get a green and actually gotten it. Farming a green seems to be a waste of time for me.

First time you open those chest or buried treasures you will get a guarenteed gold weapon. Second time the same. After the third time purples will start to appear.

This has nothing to do with the amount of time between the openings, it's solely based on the amount of openings.

it's double from about 2% (I think) So it's only like 4% which really isn't THAT much.

Mmm, an idea comes to my mind: Change all green drops for some type of green coins, then you go to the "green's NPC" and get the green you want ^_^

I'd love for something like that to happen, but when I made that suggestion in the sardelac, it got mixed results at best.

With me its bows rarely anything else drops but send my necro out farming for tomes and other goodies and I get bows.

Im not complaining, well I am kinda because the area I was farming had this ranger boss that was really easy to kill.
So every 3 or 4 runs he dropped his green item.

result I have 23 green vampiric shortbows when I wasnt even farming for them.
I sold a couple gave a few away and have some for use with my rangers but the darn things keep dropping.

I hate dealing in greens too, btw thanks your post reminded me to get teh free nightfall treasures again.

Solo with 55 SV necro. No henchies needed and preety fool-proof
Sorry about your bad luck, but your not alone. I have this problem too..

Wait.. what? I've only opened the chests 3 times (and I've had nf for a year now) First time I got mostly golds, second time I got mostly purples, third time I got all purples. I believe that the more you play a toon the worse you get here, cause I know people that never play theirs and get way more golds than me. I'm not bitching, I'm just disagreeing with your statement.

That's a lot of whining over greens. Versus golds,

Pros:
1. Unique skins - Does nothing.
2. Dyed - Big whoop.
3. Maxed stats - The only good thing you can count on.

Cons:
1. Low drop rate - Why bother farming them?
2. Can't customize - Some greens don't have the stats I want, and even if they do, I might want a different skin.
3. Can be duplicated, for functionality - Why kill for or buy a green when I can make my own?

In short, greens are junk. If you find one, lucky you, you get to sell it to someone foolish enough to think it's worth five times its value, and then go buy five weapons that you can actually put to use.

hmm. I have a req 9 inscribable Fiery Gladius sitting on a mule character. >_>

As far as greens go, my luck is very, very wierd. I can go for literally months at a time without seeing one, then suddenly get 4 in one day. Tonight I capped about 35 elites to finish my survivor (I did it, wewt), and got only 2 greens...Neoli's Contagion and Lunto's Pincers, lawl. Afterwards I decided to go kill Woespreader...eh, maybe get some MM hero staves. First try with h/h....got one. Tried again....got another. Then another. Three in a row. Decided to try some other bosses....two hours later, and nothing. So yeah...my luck is very odd....

The only greens I've ever gotten that I actually wanted, was that sundering NF green bow that is worthless because it was so easily farmed

and I once randomly got wing's axe while going through Factions the first time on my ranger.

The fact that the trading system in the game is so obtuse complicates the issue a lot. I'm sure a lot of greens are out in the market and if A.net could more easily and effectively match buyer to seller, I'm sure finding what you want would be a lot easier.

But as others said (specifically Shayne Hawke, whose opinion I'm starting to really respect here on guru, we rarely disagree, kinda like me an mithran)
Greens are not supposed to be the end all weapons, golds are/where... pre inscription days. Of course, now a max blue weapon can be the end all, penultimate weapon. Its like we are going back in time to the first months of Prophecies were the only thing people used was collectors equipment.

My friend has been farming SF for weeks trying to get Grognar's sword, with no luck. I went out on a run with him today and the 1st boss we encounter is Drago and - boom - his zealous bow drops for me, 1st time I've ever gotten that one from him (4 sundering and 1 vamp in the past). Friend still trying for that sword.

I once spent about 10 days straight farming there trying to get a Tarnok's recurve. Got a whole boatload of other greens but Tarnok never dropped once and when I realized that he could drop 1 of 3 bows, I figured it would be just my luck that, if he ever did, it would prob not be the recurve so I ended up just buying one, for 18k no less. Really funny thing thing is that after getting it, I've never used it.

Anyone have a Vulnero's Curse they're not using?

Yeah lol, I had a good experience with Sorrow's Furnace too, when I was doing it awhile back for the sole purpose of getting the then-new statue for the hom, I got Rago's Flame Staff Sure, it's not the most valuable drop ever, but it was a quick 45k on what I expected to be a relatively profitless run. The greens always seem to drop for those who aren' looking for them; I've gotten a decent amount over time through normal play, but the couple times I tried to get a specific green, it took something like two hours to get. Of course, I actually soloed; trying to get good specific drops while playing with heros (or other people for that matter, unless they're going to give you the item if it drops) is bad, as it drastically decreases the chances you'll have of getting what you're looking for.

All my guys pretty much use greens only. (Well except for the casters that I made +5 energy Brass spears for. Love, love, LOVE that skin!)
Cheap, good looking stuff. Ohh and did I mention that I prefer the colour green over gold?
It's PvE - as long as I look pretty, who cares.
The heroes sure as hell don't.

I've long suspected this.

Weird, first time opening of all chests and such got me all golds and gems for 3 of my characters, second time got them golds too. Only after the third time purples started to appear and the money tended to get a lot less.

We are both talking about the Treasure Chests, Do Not Touches and the Buried Treasures, aren't we?

If so, then yes, you are terrible unlucky

My Green Farming Era died after I finished collecting all of them from SF. "Ok, I'm done!"

Then they began popping up all over Cantha and Elona... "F&@* that!"

Eventually I lost interest in the ones I had collected since they were just sitting there taking up space. I sold them or gave most of them away to mates. I still have my Rago's staff since that was the hardest for me to get.

Anyway, good luck on getting the weapon skins you want. That's what they mostly are really: skins.

Well, if green prices weren't low enough, they'll certainly be low now.

Better get your kiddie Assassins lined up with their grasp masks. Raptor mom's claws are gonna be given out like candy in the next few days.

By the way, wouldn't it be more convenient to purchase greens over golds? You'd get the item in one swift purchase without suffering the usual gibbering GW vocabulary.

Meh, for me it doesnt seem that green rate is low, i get em, loads, i Allways get em, was doing SF run with friend (Sorrow's Furnance) and we got 8 greens, well 1 of em was one i wanted for hero (The Kindlerock) but still, i get greens all the time while vanquishing, exploring, quests, anything.. so i merch 75% of em rest goes heros & friends

The problem with greens is they are not special, I mean, that weapons need something like +1 stats, making them impossible to build yourself with mods, or make max mods very hard to get. IMO, weapon mods are too easy to get, too easy in comparison of how hard is to get some weapon skins; unbalanced IMO.

WRONG!!!! You are not GUARENTEED a gold....my monk went to the treasure in dasha for the frist time (I didnt have magrid on her so I couldnt go before I finished the last mission and got the other heroes, and as I ONLY h/h I had never been there before with her)....what did she get on the very first time she opened it...grape and about 1k....she also got a grape from the last treasure as well (the domain of pain one) on her first go thru---she has horrible luck and I dont do treasures with her unless I just want cash.

In other news I have 2 characters that have not finished nf yet and ALWAYS get gold when they open the chests as well as pretty close to max gold....


OP I too have bad luck when it comes to specific bosses....the mindclouder comes to mind, yeah yeah yeah everyone and their brother has gotten that one to drop for them....except me.....same with that dang monk chidehkir...he has never dropped his green for me (and I have killed him so many times I think I ran out of places to put notches on my weapons for each kill)....


other bosses drop their green for me and I dont even want it (have a bunch from the starter islands and some of the other mesmer bosses).....

so it is all luck.

I once went with a party of 8 to go kill the bug queen outside of Augury rock, and I got the green.
And for my 55 necro I decided to go kill the root behemoths with a full h&h party, the 6th or such dropped one.
That's the only times I killed stuff with no other goal then get the green. I'\/e ne\/er had another green drop though.

i'd imagine that a green sundering bow would be worthless becasue it's a sundering bow, not because it was overfarmed

This wknd is double drop rate for greens...so I decide to crank up that perma sin and go farm for Sskai's Sword...10 times, no motherfcking green...So yes I feel your pain >.<

heh heh, day before this green's weekend gets started, I'm out puttering around with full heroes and henchies just testing a build. So, I'm not paying attention to where I am and suddenly "owie! owie! arrgh! who is that evil maniac?" wildly bashing on me. Oops! I've blundered into Sskai's camp. He drops his sword, I guess by way of apology for beating up a lost tourist. Like Illidan I've farmed for it on occasion, no luck. Then it sort of falls out of the sky.

I get green drops so seldom that my usual reaction when I see a green name is "Who's that?" - thinking I've gained a new hero/hench.

I seldom get them when I go out farming for one. I usually get them when I am doing other things, like point farming or skill capping. And I also get mostly the ones unknown to anyone who hasn't studied the wiki.

Last week I got Cho's Vice. This week, while farming Vanguard points, The Wingshielder, which is a nice healing staff; so something useful for a change.

Of course, since the weekend started, nothing at all has dropped.

ye it's sad i know
and even sometimes
i don't even get weapons i want from drop AND trade
i kept looking and gave up really
but yeh it's suckage
your best bet is to go for Sorrow's furnace, they got good greens and with the weekend you'll sure to have some luck there

Decided to try getting Incetol's Focus today, as it'd look nice on my cute lil monk. Killed her again...and again...and again...for hours......nothing. Went to work on my sin for a bit...full h/h group. Made it to Pongmei Valley. Both Meynsang AND Xueko dropped their greens. WTF!! D:

My luck really sucks xD

I CAN!!!!!!

been capping elite skills the whole weekend and even when its a x2 more chance to get a green weapon, some how there's none. i think i cap around 30 elites ...

Same. Capped like 15 elites, killed 20 bosses (well, they were on my way, plus morale is never enough), 0 greens.

I have already tried purchasing the one's I want. They are not available. No one is selling them, or no one is getting them.

Wioli's Artifact: have to sneak by 2 groups of margonites (possible), 2 large groups of undead (possible most of the time), run from a group of pop-up mandragor, get in Crytal Overlook (take bounty), kill 3 Monuments, and then deal with Necro boss surounded by mixed guard of Sadistic and Nomad giants. I take 3 monk heroes - first 10-12 kills, fairly easy and no deaths - then everyone dies and keeps dying. Green never drops. Want this one for my Necro to match with Shadestone for my favorite bloodbuild and elite armor. Does it have to be his green, no - I could make one, but I have never seen a max truncheon (purple or gold) with those stats or inscribable drop. Nor have I ever seen a max 15/-1 mod for anything drop.

Exuro's Will - Simply never see drop. Romped out there a number of times. Alturnately would accept Hajkor's Flame. I killed him close to 70 times farming LB and SS points. (Repeatedly vanquished the area to max titles, instead of the boring runs. Only green drop - Alem's Remedy. As much as I was out there I should have had all of them.) Want this for fire hero. Have I seen anything max drop that I would put on him - not in 5500+ hours of play.

Flint's Fleshcleaver - another is not dropping. I get greens in that area - but not his. No one wants to trade or sell it if anyone has it. I want for Zhed whom I run as an Ice Ele.

The game is played for entertainment. It is a visual game. What is not visually appealing is Not entertaining. I have complained before about the lack of consistancy in motifs and appearance. For instance, you cannot get Ascalonian armor that looks like anything Ascalonian - yet you are supposed to have been part of the princes special unit. Even monumental armor has nothing in it that reflects an Ascalonian heritage. Luxon armor shows no jade in its making. Kurzick armor shows no amber. Crafters and collectors do not provide things specific to their area. It reminds me of flower beds that look like they had an accident with a nursery delivery truck - nothing placed with any thought of appearance or appropriateness for that location.

The game is about entertainment, which varies from person to person. And there is a difference between merely doing business and doing business you can smile about. If we are only interested in stats and do not care about the quality of our presentation then it is no longer entertainment, its work, a job, etc. Work is what 80% of people do because that is what they need not because it is what they want. Only a few get to enjoy what they do. Why should our entertainment be as equally disappointing?