GW Chat Needs a Spell Check!

Stockholm

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Originally Posted by GaaaaaH
why stop at GW? the whole internet needs a spell checker and a spelling enforcer (some big guy with a bat to threaten the kiddies into typing right)
And what language would this enforcer enforce?

flclempire

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Elitist central, it seems....

Issac

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Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana
Society needs a stupid filter.
Hell to the yes lol

But is it ganna be like microsoft SP where u right click? Then they gotta add right clicking in the game lol.

pamelf

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Spell check won't take into account local colloquialisms. I'm Australian and most of my guild are British; they always use these random words that are local to them but you'd never find it in a dictionary and they make absolutely not sense to me. Too many people from different nationalities to make this valid or viable.

theblackmage

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Originally Posted by theblackmage
check
Czech
Ooh, you got me there. Never even thought of that one.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
this tread needs to be closed its turning into "OH LOOK AT ME I CAN BE CLEVER WITH WORDS" fest.
Er, if what I said came off that way, my apologies. I was using it as an (exaggerated and possibly humorous) example of how people can screw up their spelling so much that a spell check can actually make the text even more incomprehensible ('cept in my example, 'cause it's supposed to make sense if you sound it all out).
Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Spell check won't take into account local colloquialisms. I'm Australian and most of my guild are British; they always use these random words that are local to them but you'd never find it in a dictionary and they make absolutely not sense to me. Too many people from different nationalities to make this valid or viable.
Add these local colloquialisms to shorthand/abbreviations and the hypothetical spell check's dictionary will be ginormous.

RockmanHero

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
Title says it all guys. Can I get some support?
My personal dictionary disagrees with you. It's not my fault that you don't know what regastoral or uthinaliz means.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GaaaaaH
why stop at GW? the whole internet needs a spell checker and a spelling enforcer (some big guy with a bat to threaten the kiddies into typing GOOD)
Fixed. You can spell correctly, but if you're going to ignore grammar, AT LEAST BE CONSISTENT MAN!

JupiterStarWarrior

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Quote:
Originally Posted by uzumaki
"No thanks." <--- this just looks offensive, a simple nty would be fine...
I'm sorry, I have to say something on this. I don't care if it's on the forums, in chat, or even text message, I take pride in doing things grammatically correct. I don't like using "nty" or "ty" or "gz" or any of that. I want to be perfectly clear in what I say, so it's "No thank you." or "Thank you." or even "Congrats!" when I speak in chat. Sure it may take some time (even longer if I make any typos), but, to me, I'm stepping away from the now-considered norm of society. I was taught to spell correctly and use words in a coherent sort of way.

Am I saying that those who use netspeak are inferior? No. I like to type "LOL" for "laughing out loud", especially in chat, so I do use it somewhat. But, to say that a simple "No thanks." looks offensive is somewhat degrading. When I do trade with people, I want to make a good impression, so I use proper grammar and spelling when I can.

Going back on topic, there are people who don't know English as their primary language and who actually have learning disablities (for example, dyslexia). A spellcheck could be used as a simple tool for them, but it needs to be used as such: A tool. That's how I learned to spell "definitley", which can be confusing to spell. Note, though, that I do have to actually sit down and type the word because it's my fingers that actually learned.

Those saying that a spellchecker is a bad thing, or is not needed, I actually agree. I'm not going to get hurt over people who misspell, just if it's really confusing to me. For example, if a person's sentence uses too many pronouns, and I don't know what noun said pronoun goes to.





In online forums, though, is a different matter altogether. In forums, you actually should take the time to spellcheck and proofread (to an extent) what you write. It makes you look coherent in whatever you do. Sure, this is online, and you may make several common errors a few times, but there's looking at "i dont care wut ppl sai, so i type liek this" and "I don't care what people say, so I type like this". To me, I've been hammered to type coherently, so it's actually quite difficult for me to type like anything else.

I just can't stand it when people do run-on sentences, misspell common words (it's a lot, not alot), and even make grammatical errors that are easy to avoid (like they're vs their vs their and would of instead of would have, etc) .



Note, that I know I'm not perfect; I may have made some grammar and spelling errors on this post. As I said, I do try, but for some reason, Firefox's spellchecker isn't working the way it should. Stupid spellchecker.

Age

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So does Th Guru but vb doesn't include spell checkers on it software unlike phpbb does.To poster No. 20 not all of us are.

JupiterStarWarrior

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trylo
its not so much the spelling... its the "their, there, theyre," "would of," and "awefull." that ones pisses me off. full of awe? i dont think so.

the way i interpret a spell checker is the little red line under misspelled words, which i guess could possibly help a tad... im not sure. as long as it isnt a grammar nazi, sure. i would not enjoy putting ' on all my contractions.
Even though the apostrophes are actually part of the spelled word, especially its vs. it's (they are two different words with two different meanings: one is a contraction of it is (it's) and the other is a possessive pronoun (its)).

Other than that, I agree with this. Add to that list "a lot" vs "alot", and take out the hypocritical "its" and replace it with "it's", and then it could be more viable.

Abedeus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
Even though the apostrophes are actually part of the spelled word, especially its vs. it's (they are two different words with two different meanings: one is a contraction of it is (it's) and the other is a possessive pronoun (its)).

Other than that, I agree with this. Add to that list "a lot" vs "alot", and take out the hypocritical "its" and replace it with "it's", and then it could be more viable.
Don't forget to curb you're dog. Yeah, your is "something belonging to you", you're is abbreviation of "you are", same as I'm or they're.

Oh, and just because there is word "full", doesn't mean all words with the same ending should have "ll". Like useful, grateful, meaningful.

Turbobusa

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Some of my spells really need to be checked.
OoU sucks now.

Tzu

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Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm
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Dark Age of Camelot had a custom filter that allowed you to change colloquialisms to fit your literary needs and upkeep your mental well-being. It was an amazing system at the time--lol became 'very funny', brb turned into 'one moment' and rofl morphed into 'well spoken!' Ah, for the days of role-playing on Percival...

But, as others have suggested, you could turn off local and nearly achieve the same effect.
sounds good :3

/signed

JupiterStarWarrior

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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Don't forget to curb you're dog. Yeah, your is "something belonging to you", you're is abbreviation of "you are", same as I'm or they're.

Oh, and just because there is word "full", [sic] doesn't mean all words with the same ending should have "ll". Like useful, grateful, meaningful.
Oh, yeah! I totally forgot about the "your" and "you're" dilemma. *smacks head* Duh!

For some reason, to me, the "there" in your second sentence seemed wrong, but it's correct (I had to test "their" and "they're" against the sentence). But, it should read "...there is a word "full"...

bryann380

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Quote:
Originally Posted by uzumaki
wtf... No. Grammar & correct spelling ingame make you look intelligent.
Corrected that for you. Arrogance has nothing to do with it. I can understand using abbreviations here and there but not for at least half the words you type in a sentence. By doing so tells me you're either lazy or not that bright to spell out whole words.

Murmel

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
No, GW does not need a spell check.

It just needs less stupid people.
Qft.

People just have to grow up and learn how to spell properly.

Trylo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
Even though the apostrophes are actually part of the spelled word, especially its vs. it's (they are two different words with two different meanings: one is a contraction of it is (it's) and the other is a possessive pronoun (its)).

Other than that, I agree with this. Add to that list "a lot" vs "alot", and take out the hypocritical "its" and replace it with "it's", and then it could be more viable.
but the ' key is... so far away... D: (i like to assume people know the difference between its and it's...)

oh and i think i forgot "your and you're."

it just makes you look less stupid. i admit that i sometimes just stop reading an entire post because of the amount of grammatical and spelling errors, because 90% of the time the poster doesnt have a coherent statement.

oh and how is "No thanks." offensive? (i would really enjoy seeing someone try to argue that).

Hailey Anne

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Its a game ffs, people get on to have fun relax and not worry about having to do crap like spell check. Seriously just have fun in the GAME.

SerenitySilverstar

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Join Date: May 2006

So, if it's "just" a game, and "just" spelling, at what point in our lives do we make proper language and communication important? It's "just" texting, it's "just" chat, it's "just" writing an essay, it's "just" my college application, it's "just" my job application, it's "just" my job.

The onus is on every generation to be better than the last. Pick up your IQ from the floor and make this world move ahead in an intelligent manner.

pamelf

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What about local spellings as well. Australians spell armour with a 'u' Americans with just an o. There are many other words like that, like words spelt with 's's where American's spell with a z. Which spelling would be the universal spelling? Seriously, this just causes way too many problems. Just keep your own grammar and spelling up to scratch and let others be uneducated English (or other language) destroyers. This is really not something I think Anet should spend time on.

Stockholm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
What about local spellings as well. Australians spell armour with a 'u' Americans with just an o. There are many other words like that, like words spelt with 'S's where Americans spell with a z. Which spelling would be the universal spelling? Seriously, this just causes way too many problems. Just keep your own grammar and spelling up to scratch and let others be uneducated English (or other language) destroyers. This is really not something I think Anet should spend time on.
If they should implement a spell check it would have to be in proper English, not the clone languages of the Colonies.

Hailey Anne

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
So, if it's "just" a game, and "just" spelling, at what point in our lives do we make proper language and communication important? It's "just" texting, it's "just" chat, it's "just" writing an essay, it's "just" my college application, it's "just" my job application, it's "just" my job.

The onus is on every generation to be better than the last. Pick up your IQ from the floor and make this world move ahead in an intelligent manner.
My IQ is just fine tyvm. It's just a game. On anything that matters I make sure everything is spelled correctly. I use spell checker in word docs that need it. I do NOT need to worry about spelling on a game where I could care less about some idiot spelling nazi. If you are that worried about how people spell in a GAME then you need help.

N1ghtstalker

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Originally Posted by Stockholm
So you are saying that people that don't have English as their main language are stupid?
I would say that people that have English as main language but don't use it properly are stupid.
ye well that's what i mean
i'm not a native english speaker and even i can speak it better than others

Stockholm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
So you are saying that people that don't have English as their main language are stupid?
I would say that people that have English as main language but don't use it properly are stupid.



Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
ye well that's what i mean
i'm not a native english speaker and even i can speak it better than others
Hi, stupid (you said it, not me)

JupiterStarWarrior

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
If they should implement a spell check it would have to be in proper English, not the clone languages of the Colonies.
We fought hard for our independence from the Brits, thank you very much. Let us have our spelling, and I'll TRY to put up with YOURS.

Anywho, if something like a spellchecker is implemented, it would be best if it's set in the Server you're in. For example, if you're in the American servers, the spellchecker would take on the American English spelling. But if you're in the European servers, you would see the European spelling on the spellchecker.

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Originally Posted by Trylo
but the ' key is... so far away...
You can't move your left pinkie finger an inch to the left? How do you type?! :P

pamelf

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior

Anywho, if something like a spellchecker is implemented, it would be best if it's set in the Server you're in. For example, if you're in the American servers, the spellchecker would take on the American English spelling. But if you're in the European servers, you would see the European spelling on the spellchecker.
What if we don't have servers? That's racial discrimination right there. :P

SerenitySilverstar

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Typical debate. If you can't attack the argument with logic, attack the person.

Racial discrimination, and "you're the one with the problem" - real classy.

pamelf

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Sarcasm detectors need tweaking my friend.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
I'm sorry, I have to say something on this. I don't care if it's on the forums, in chat, or even text message, I take pride in doing things grammatically correct. I don't like using "nty" or "ty" or "gz" or any of that. I want to be perfectly clear in what I say, so it's "No thank you." or "Thank you." or even "Congrats!" when I speak in chat. Sure it may take some time (even longer if I make any typos), but, to me, I'm stepping away from the now-considered norm of society. I was taught to spell correctly and use words in a coherent sort of way.
You, sir (or madam), are now my favorite Guru poster.

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
Excuse me society, your lower class is showing.

I can't wait for the State of the Union to be done in txtspk, or Shakespeare to be translated into LOL.
Agreed. Sadly, I think it's already starting. We'll be living in a society where politicians speak of lol cats or whatever vile flavor of the month piss that 4chan spews out.

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Originally Posted by uzumaki
What the go red engine... No. Grammar & correct spelling in game make you look arrogant. Abbreviations are convenient, so there is no need for an English lesson. Ok. Thank you.

I want to slap people in real life who begin everything they type with a capital and end with a full stop.

"No thanks." <--- This just looks offensive, a simple no thank you would be fine...
It all boils down to personal preference. I hate abbreviations and short-hand because writing is 90% of my career, and as such, I try to avoid them as much as possible; sorry if my chosen vocation puts me on a pedestal.

JupiterStarWarrior

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[quote=Sante_Kelm]You, sir (or madam), are now my favorite Guru poster.
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Thank you! I am a "sir", but have been called "ma'am" before.

imnotyourmother

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but what if we can not spell works like, antidisestablishmentarianism?
Oh that is the longest word in the english language too boot. As ytou can se it does nothing grammer for.

But what does it meen?

JupiterStarWarrior

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Quote:
Originally Posted by imnotyourmother
[sic] but what if we can not spell works like, antidisestablishmentarianism?
Oh that is the longest word in the english language too boot. As ytou can se it does nothing grammer for.

But what does it meen?
...

Anywho, to answer your question.

And, Antidisestablishmentarianism is not the longest word. It actually pales compared to this one (the first word has only 28 letters; the second has 189,819 letters).

Source

The full name of Titin.

Shadowhaze

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
I'm sorry, I have to say something on this. I don't care if it's on the forums, in chat, or even text message, I take pride in doing things grammatically correct. I don't like using "nty" or "ty" or "gz" or any of that. I want to be perfectly clear in what I say, so it's "No thank you." or "Thank you." or even "Congrats!" when I speak in chat. Sure it may take some time (even longer if I make any typos), but, to me, I'm stepping away from the now-considered norm of society. I was taught to spell correctly and use words in a coherent sort of way.

...
/clap

Proper grammar is always good. I don't see how a spell check would work though. I like using "lol" and a few others now and then (ok, so I lol a lot I guess, but usually when something actually does make me laugh. And laughing is good for you. ), but some just use that stuff to excess. And there are times I wonder what on earth that person is trying to say...lol

Calista Blackblood

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also add the MS Word paperclip armed with a bazooka

firstly to yell at people when they ping crap builds

secondly

when maybe becomes mb
when elite becomes leet
when congratulations becomes gz

said armed paperclip can bitch slap the perpetrator back to secondary school to learn how to form a coherent sentence

Sweet Mystery

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Spell check for GW? omg.... hell no... if people can't spell why give them grief over it.... most kids are on here who are too lazy to learn to spell let alone do it correct....

Next you'll want a pre-req of an english qualification to play - hey add maths too for storing gold, and some ecomomics qualification for trading....

No way this needs a spell check...

noneedforclevernames

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Quote:
Originally Posted by t3dw4rd0
Walcum 2 z interweb. U naut get j00r speel chek.
Typing like that is the same as calling yourself a noob. Can you imagine someone who is truly talented at something typing like that?

Ontopic: I do not think a Spell Check would be very good in Guild Wars. About 30% of the people playing the game do not speak English well anyways. And I cannot imagine anyone really taking the time to spell check something they will spam in trade anyways, onless maybe they spell checked item names {especially faction greens/boss names}.

Hyper.nl

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Better yet, send the kid's back to school so they can learn how to spell.
Q.F.T.

Aussie Boy

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Whats the point anyway I go to Europe ENGLISH Dist and many times there not talking in English.

Tyla

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Boy
Whats the point anyway I go to Europe ENGLISH Dist and many times there not talking in English.
I agree with this for the most part. However, I believe there aren't districts for some languages which is also part of that problem.

around

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Spell checkers: helping pompous people look intellligent since Dr. Johnson first invented the dictionary.

Especially Dr. Johnson.

Zinger314

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Spell Checking and Video Games: There has to be an oxymoron somewhere.