Avatar of Grenth and Conjure Frost

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tristania289
tristania289
Ascalonian Squire
#1
Does the cold damage from Avatar of Grenth triggers the damage of Conjure Frost ? So I don't have to wield an icy weapon. Thanks for answers.
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The_Kai
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
Quote: Originally Posted by Wiki
Anomaly! You do not deal Cold damage while in this form. Wiki says it doesn't, do a test
theonetheonlybruce
theonetheonlybruce
Krytan Explorer
#3
you could just use the skill grenths fingers
silavor
silavor
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
In writing, yes it does. In actuality, aNet has left Avatar of Grenth in the dust for MONTHS. We are not amused.
AidinSwiftarrow
AidinSwiftarrow
Frost Gate Guardian
#5
Grenth kinda sucks IMO : /
Flightmare
Flightmare
Lion's Arch Merchant
#6
Well, Grenth used to be cool...
tristania289
tristania289
Ascalonian Squire
#7
Well, I'm gonna use it in AB. And it will be really useful against monks with [Guardian]. I just want to use a vampiric weapon to pressure the enemies, that's why I'm wondering if the Avatar gives you cold damage.
Yeah, I did check it out in Wiki. It's a bug, I hope Anet fixes this soon.
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-Lotus-
Jungle Guide
#8
[Wild Blow] > [Avatar of Grenth]

If you add wounding in there it just makes it silly.

the original concept of the skill was way to powerful to balance, but the current version just sucks.
daze
daze
Jungle Guide
#9
Tristania, your avatar pic is my desktop walpaper at home.

Quote: Originally Posted by -Lotus-
[Wild Blow] > [Avatar of Grenth] ??? saying [[wild blow] is greater than [[avatar of grenth] is like saying thumbprints > tv shows... in no way are those 2 skills related...
Is [wild blow] > [avatar of grenth] your version of the chewbacca defense?

and [onslaught] /> [whirling charge]
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-Lotus-
Jungle Guide
#10
Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related?
Bowstring Badass
Bowstring Badass
Forge Runner
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by -Lotus-
Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related? Seems very related to me.

Honestly Grenth = trash now. Balthazar is more useful.

If your going to run an avatar then Melandru or Lyssa would be best for PvE possibly Dwayna if its a lot of melee hate hexes.

And daze [skill]whirling charge[/skill]>[skill]onslaught[/skill]. Simply because no cast time less means of it being stripped and I can keep [skill]wounding strike[/skill].
Bobby2
Bobby2
Furnace Stoker
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by -Lotus- Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related? Well, I'm not defending [avatar of grenth] here, but this much needs to be said

[wild blow] is just 1 attack every 8 sec. Awesome if you want to counter Stances, but it doesn't do squat delivering pressure against [Aegis]/[Guardian]. Against Grenth, [[Patient Spirit] on any target becomes a liability.

Distant relatives, perhaps. But to say these skills were designed with the same goal in mind is sheer stupidity.

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
And daze [skill]whirling charge[/skill]>[skill]onslaught[/skill]. Simply because no cast time less means of it being stripped and I can keep [skill]wounding strike[/skill]. QFMFT.
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-Lotus-
Jungle Guide
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobby2
[wild blow] is just 1 attack every 8 sec. Awesome if you want to counter Stances, but it doesn't do squat delivering pressure against [Aegis]/[Guardian]. Against Grenth, [[Patient Spirit] on any target becomes a liability. the thing is that the only blocking foes you should really be pressuring are ones with stances. if a foe has guardian then the monk is paying attention to them and you are better off on a different target anyways. Aegis is a little bit of a problem, but you should have some enchantment removal on your team.

I do see your point though, i revise my earlier statement to:

[Wild Blow]+[Wounding strike] > [Avatar of Grenth]
daze
daze
Jungle Guide
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by -Lotus- Wild Blow is unblockable. all Grenth does is make you unblockable from enchanted foes. how is that not related? When i watch CSI which is a tv show, sometimes i see thumbprints.
Very loosly related

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby2
Well, I'm not defending [avatar of grenth] here, but this much needs to be said

[wild blow] is just 1 attack every 8 sec. Awesome if you want to counter Stances, but it doesn't do squat delivering pressure against [Aegis]/[Guardian]. Against Grenth, [[Patient Spirit] on any target becomes a liability.

Distant relatives, perhaps. But to say these skills were designed with the same goal in mind is sheer stupidity.


QFMFT.
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-Lotus-
Jungle Guide
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by daze
When i watch CSI which is a tv show, sometimes i see thumbprints.
Very loosly related plz make sense. and waste less space, you just quoted a post and it's answer and added some gibberish...
Bowstring Badass
Bowstring Badass
Forge Runner
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by daze
When i watch CSI which is a tv show, sometimes i see thumbprints.
Very loosly related
Its very related you are just dumb. Wild Blow is unblockable, Grenth makes you unblockable to enchanted foes. That seems related to me as both part of that statement say UNBLOCKABLE. Do we need to make a poster with 3 colors for you and your stupidity?
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Mister PMA
Ascalonian Squire
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
Do we need to make a poster with 3 colors for you and your stupidity? If people didn't make comments like this, imagine how much more we could get done....As for the question of the thread starter that skill is bugged, like you already know haha.
daze
daze
Jungle Guide
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass Its very related you are just dumb. Wild Blow is unblockable, Grenth makes you unblockable to enchanted foes. That seems related to me as both part of that statement say UNBLOCKABLE. Do we need to make a poster with 3 colors for you and your stupidity? if you would have noticed how i said "loosely related", maybe you wouldn't have resorted to spewing fecal matter =}

[wild blow] = 1 attack every 8 seconds that costs 5 energy each time
[avatar of grenth] = always unblockable every attack (as long as they are enchanted)

my previous statement remains in tact because if you can wrap your brain around the term "loosely related" you may understand that it is completely different from the term "not related in the least bit"
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Originally Posted by Mister PMA
If people didn't make comments like this, imagine how much more we could get done.... i used to let it get to me when flamers talk crap and call names, but now i actually find it a bit amusing... I have to admit, to a point i may press the buttons of flamers. Just accept that there are rude people out there who get a self esteem boost by attempting to belittle other people. If these people spot an opportunity to call someone "stupid" they pounce on the opportunity like a cat on a mouse. My psychology class says 99.9% of the time it is to compensate for something. Like lack of life goals, personal success, and even sexual inadequacy. If someone can try to make themselves feel superior about a subject, then it takes light off of what aspect in which they are inferior. But that is where it gets scary because i would much rather be inferior in Guild wars than in RL
Just understand that it is human nature. I say let the flamers flame on. Because what really matters is i have a baby, paid off house, great job, and an evil baby's mama. =}
Cebe
Cebe
The 5th Celestial Boss
#19
So, what's the problem with using Wild Blow and Avatar of Grenth?

They are quite clearly similar in the respect that they both are unblockable, and while Grenth has a condition attached, they both have quite distinctly different uses. I don't understand why everyone is arguing over this.
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-Lotus-
Jungle Guide
#20
I stand by my statement that wild blow is more useful (considering that AoG is elite).


targets with blocking stances should be handled by wild blow.
targets with guardian are already the target of a monk, so you arent going to kill them.
targets with aegis are really the only place AoG shines, and thats not enough of a reason to bring the elite...


[Wild Blow] > [Avatar Of Grenth]


@Daze: please stop making useless posts, its really annoying.