need help with perma sin build?

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

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Hello

I got the neceesarry skills for my perma sin glyph of swiftness, deadly pardox , shadowform, got all the correct radian t and attunement runs the 20 % enchanting staff, but when i start my sequence: glyph of switfness, deadly pardaox , shadow form. and i get ready to renue it, i do again 1, 2, 3, after that seqyuence, when i try the next i dont make it cause shadow form runs out before it recharges, cansome one explain the proper sequence to maintain it up , also,are any type of consumables required to help keep it up?

thks for the help, a perma sin noob1

PS. this build is basically to do underworld and fow, as a team to speed clear or solo farming, so i really would like to master this build.

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

u need atleast a major shadow arts rune i believe.

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

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i got a superior shadow, and all required runes, i just needsomeone to go thru, how the skill activation sequence goes to keep it up.

Ban

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Netherlands

[GoE]

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Glyph of Swiftness, Deadly Paradox, Shadow Form.
Make sure you cast Shadow Form before either of the other skills run out.

You need atleast 15 Shadow Arts + 20% enchanting staff.

If you do this, it should work.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ban
Glyph of Swiftness, Deadly Paradox, Shadow Form.
Make sure you cast Shadow Form before either of the other skills run out.

You need atleast 15 Shadow Arts + 20% enchanting staff.

If you do this, it should work. pretty much really....

topic - alternative - loads of threads on this already - just look / search 'sin / farming forums lots of threads on how to do it / skill orders etc. ^^

Da Rk Bl Ad E

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Belfast - Northern Ireland

D/W

[glyph of swiftness] [deadly paradox] [shadow form]...once shadow form is about 75% charged use [glyph of swiftness] then when it's recharged hit [deadly paradox][shadow form]

dunno what your problem is, it's pretty simple

Zidane Ortef

Zidane Ortef

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2006

Martinsburg, WV

Scions of Carver [SCAR]/Trinity Of The Ascended [ToA]

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Perma sin req. at least 13 in shadow arts so if you are A/E then u will have no problem.

On the other hand if you are trying to run E/A then you need a form of +1 to your attributes this can be done through a Candy corn, golden egg, Grail of Might,Lunar blessing from a lunar fortune.

As for skill usage it should always be [Glyph of Swiftness][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form]

[Glyph of Swiftness] only counts for one spell so u can't use anything in between or your perma chain will be messed up.

Zidane Ortef

Zidane Ortef

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2006

Martinsburg, WV

Scions of Carver [SCAR]/Trinity Of The Ascended [ToA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ban
Glyph of Swiftness, Deadly Paradox, Shadow Form.
Make sure you cast Shadow Form before either of the other skills run out.

You need atleast 15 Shadow Arts + 20% enchanting staff.

If you do this, it should work. Perma only req is 13 SA not 15 having more than 13 just gives you a few more seconds of leeway.

Da Rk Bl Ad E

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Belfast - Northern Ireland

D/W

Anyway, if your in the uw /fow teams Glyph of swiftness ain't needed as you have cons sets and only need deadly paradox

Damian979

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Make sure if you are weapon switching that you are on your 20% enchant weapon when you cast. With 0 points in DA you only have 5 sec to cast Shadowform so don't use it until you are ready to cast.

13 is the bare minimum and I wouldn't recommend it if you aren't used to the timing yet. If you run 14 points in SA Shadowform will start blinking as soon as it recharges giving you a couple sec window to recast. Then kick it back to 13 points when you are comfortable.

Practice by standing outside a town with out attacking anything and just concentrate on maintaining SF until you get the timing down.

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Rk Bl Ad E
Anyway, if you're in the uw /fow teams Glyph of swiftness ain't needed as you have cons sets and only need deadly paradox Fixed. There are several other mistakes, but the your/you're, there/their/they're mistakes always bug me. Laziness.

And your first post...why the rude comment?

OT: It just takes a little practice. Get it right before you waste your money getting to these areas.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

Timing appears to be your issue, because you have the necessary equipment and skills. You are likely mixing up the skill order, or hitting them too quickly such that glyph hasn't activated before you cast SF on the renew. Either that, or you switched weapons to a non-20% enchant before renewing.

The other mistake, perhaps a more common one is... you are doing the chain correctly, but not soon enough... letting SF expire by waiting too long.

Practice should solve your concerns. Good luck!