Spear Mastery x Leadership?

Windf0rce

Windf0rce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

A small attribute dilemma. While I don't think it would make a big difference, we know GW is a game of small advantages and things add up pretty fast so I like to cover all details.

I've been running this:

Leadership 12 + 1 + 1
Spear Mastery 10 + 1
Command 8 + 1 (shield req, couldn't get a req 8 yet)

And this bar:

Spear of Fury
Spear of Lightning
Anthem of Weariness
"There is Nothing to Fear!"
"Save Yourselves!"
Agressive Refrain
"For Great Justice!"
Focused Anger [E]

However I see some people drool over Spear damage and say it is well worth speccing 12 + 1 + 1 into Spear Mastery, run 11 + 1 Leadership and 7 + 1 Command with a 15 armor / req 8 shield (correct me if my numbers are off).

Do you think the small loss in Leadership is worth the damage considering my only skill on the Spear line is Spear of Lightning (Spear of Fury being Kurz)?

At 14 LD I have 1 extra second of TNTF! and 1 extra Energy return per shout/chant and can mantain 11 Spear Mastery.

At 12 LD I'd get to maybe 14 Spear Mastery, but how exactly those mastery levels would help my team more?

Please share your thoughts, thanks.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Try to get an r7 shield and you have no dilemma

Da Rk Bl Ad E

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Belfast - Northern Ireland

D/W

15al req7 shields ftw.

Windf0rce

Windf0rce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Try to get an r7 shield and you have no dilemma What would be the maximum armor on a r7, please? I might indeed afford the Armor loss for some damage, as I seem to hardly get hit.

You'd suggest 14(12+1+1) Lead, 12(11+1) Spear, 7(6+1) Command then?

Da Rk Bl Ad E

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Belfast - Northern Ireland

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Windf0rce
What would be the maximum armor on a r7, please? same as a normal shield 16, but these are uber rare. go for a 15al

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

there are r7 AI 16 shields around, but they are rare to say the least. R7 ai 15 are more common.

Windf0rce

Windf0rce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Rk Bl Ad E
same as a normal shield 16, but these are uber rare. go for a 15al Thanks guys, will look forward for those.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I suggest max spear and have 12 Leadership instead.

For the req 7 shield, check Guru's Trading Forums because from what I know that's the best place to get it.

Da Rk Bl Ad E

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Belfast - Northern Ireland

D/W

what tyla said.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

Consider using the new and improved [soldier's fury] instead of [focused anger]. This will give you plenty of adrenaline to spam [save yourselves!], and frees up a skill slot since you won't need [aggressive refrain].

Regarding attributes: As long as you go with an even number for Leadership, you'll be fine. If you feel energy management is too hard, go higher Leadership. If you feel your team isn't doing enough damage, go higher Spear. Once you're tired of trying to decide, go get the r7 shield they've been telling you about.

Para runes are cheap, so you might even expiriment with a major leadership rune, thus allowing you to add a point to spear.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheodenKing
Consider using the new and improved [soldier's fury] instead of [focused anger]. This will give you plenty of adrenaline to spam [save yourselves!], and frees up a skill slot since you won't need [aggressive refrain] Stop suggesting this. It's not as good. Rachoth, Richardt, and myself have all explained independently why it's not as good.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Agreed with Snow. Not saying Soldier's Fury is ridiculously bad, just saying Focused Anger is much better.

As has been suggested, 15AL, req 7 Command shields are amazing for this. Somebody mentioned a 16AL req 7, but afaik these don't exist in either inscriptables or in Paragon attributes.

Also, adding another vote for 12+1+1 Spear, 11+1 Leadership, 6+1 Command.

Dairith

Dairith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Our Titles are [SiCK]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan
Also, adding another vote for 12+1+1 Spear, 11+1 Leadership, 6+1 Command. The "correct" way to attribute a para....I, however, don't use it as I can't be bothered to find a 15al q7 shield; might get around to getting one some day.