A new Anet contest: recreate a skill

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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hi,

seeing the tensions of the skillbalancing and somewhat strange skillbalances going on i thought the community itself may help for making the game a bit more fun by helping recreating unused skills that have no value at all
yes we have skillbalances but each skillbalance i see more and more dissapointed people by the skill"balances" that have happened e.g. the coming destruction of [smiter's boon]
so here is my proposal: anet should hold a contest for players to recreate certain skills that are not used at all, we could hold the contest here on one of the forums and have people judge their proposals for any skills or whatsoever, just pretty much like the design a weapon contest but in any case, there are still alot of skills that need balancing and i'm worried they'll never get balanced whatsoever

i am pretty sure there are alot of people here on these forums that know the true meaning of balanced and have the capability to recreate unused skills into useful skills that can be used for PvE and PvP (stir it up abit y'know)

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

/signed - but only if the contest consists of Ensign and Ensign alone. Maybe a few other people of his choice.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

/signed

If anyone should know what is wrong with the game, it is the community as a whole. ANET should at least acknowledge that and give us the opportunity to help out with skill balancing ._.

Shadow Kurd

Shadow Kurd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

Scouts of Tyria

P/

hmmmm sounds interesting

I guess Anet could try it. And if it really gets out of hand rvert it

/signed

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

/signed

Always up for giving ideas (they would have to ensure its balanced)

Calista Blackblood

Calista Blackblood

Permanently Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Northern Ireland

Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide]

N/

i heard there were polls in sardelac now? maybe i was dreaming

£10 says the first winner tries to recreate ursan

sixofone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

P/

/signed

Polls would be one way to check the community. Having a contest sounds like a good idea!

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calista BlackBlood
i heard there were polls in sardelac now? maybe i was dreaming

£10 says the first winner tries to recreate ursan
added poll with suitable options

Artinnia

Artinnia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Does my Guild Hall count?

Dragoon Knights of Fury

R/

It might work as long as they pick the winning entry carefully.

I'll /sign.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I like the idea, something like this is really needed. Anet can't handle all the skills anymore.

There's only one problem: the current balancing team will probably be picking the winners and would only pick the changes they'd do anyways. So we'd be stuck no matter what.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

To add to your idea I propose Anet makes an extra section their site called skill change submission. You select from any skill in the game and modify what it does like damage, healing, and power. When a player submits a skill there will be a list of all currently submitted skills and you can give each skill you view a thumbs up or thumbs down which will then higher or lower the rank.

/signed.

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

/signed

Sure, why not?

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Listening to 99% of the guru population on skill balance would be completely disastrous and worse than what we have now. Ensign is the only one that (used to) frequently post on guru that I would trust doing skill balance.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

/sign

I say change is always good, even if the change is directly bad, because if we don't change things around, life gets boring.

For the contest, it sounds like people say there can only be one winner for the whole thing. Why not just pick out the best sounding balances. People can give suggestions *and submit to a specific place* for whatever skill they think needs to be balanced. And whatever skill changes seem to sound the best get put into place.

This would of course include some skill description changes and I'm sure many people would love to see more skills changed around for both PvE and PvP, so it can be a way to utilize the split even more.



Can't have just one person making all the skill balances, that creates bias results, as we all know.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Hey, people already do that in the Wiki.

I doub they'll be giving prices for that.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

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Join Date: Dec 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Hey, people already do that in the Wiki.

I doub they'll be giving prices for that.
yes i know, i've seen it but it doesn't happen
i've seen many proposals to change [wastrel's collapse] months ago and it's still not changed
Anet doesn't listen to their customers
the community also knows what could be best for the game, there are good threads here to improve the game like: armor storage, auction house, etc...
but Anet doesnt listen
i don't even see Regina here, never, we are ignored but an important part of the game

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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People ask for a lot of things.

Usually less than 10% of suggestions go forward.

The solution is making even more suggestions so the actual number beyond the percentage goes up.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
added poll with suitable options
Operable word being "suitable". I put 'no' because, while I'm not happy with the way skills are now, 99% of the community would fux them up even more than Anet could ever dream of.

Compound with this with the fact that Anet are going to be the judges, and they would not have any way to filter the garbage besides their own knowledge, and we all know how well that's served the game thus far (roll eyes).

Marverick

Marverick

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Listening to 99% of the guru population on skill balance would be completely disastrous and worse than what we have now. Ensign is the only one that (used to) frequently post on guru that I would trust doing skill balance.
Agreed. A poll here would never produce any beneficial results.

pamelf

pamelf

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Operable word being "suitable". I put 'no' because, while I'm not happy with the way skills are now, 99% of the community would fux them up even more than Anet could ever dream of.

Compound with this with the fact that Anet are going to be the judges, and they would not have any way to filter the garbage besides their own knowledge, and we all know how well that's served the game thus far (roll eyes).
I signed no for exactly the same reason.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Absolutely not.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

I suggest we un-nerf sf because then people can farm even more than they do now!
Uh...jk of course.

Deadshot Seven

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/

I'll sign.
Wastrel's needs to be fixed or changed from an elite to a non elite.

Khasar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Crystal Desert

Guild of Dangerous Surprise[GODS]

It would still suck--even as a non-elite.

Example of the types of suggestions you would get:

[Unseen Fury] For 5...10...13 seconds you turn invisible, attack 25% faster, and deal +15 dmg with all attacks! 5e 1/4sec 25Rc

Sounds like a fun idea and all but I just dont see this working out (the idea I mean, my skill would be teh roxxorz).

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
/signed

If anyone should know what is wrong with the game, it is the community as a whole. ANET should at least acknowledge that and give us the opportunity to help out with skill balancing ._.
truer words have never been spoken

/signed

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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/signed only if players from all/any country can enter :P

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Listening to 99% of the guru population on skill balance would be completely disastrous and worse than what we have now. Ensign is the only one that (used to) frequently post on guru that I would trust doing skill balance.
I cried because it's true.