Dervish in DoA

The Thrasher

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

22 Aug 2008 at 09:32 - 1

I was just wondering if there is a plausable derv build for DoA that people have tried out. Would something like Arcane Orders work?

Since the nerf of ursan.... well you know what happened to DoA. I used ursan no doubt, but other than that I would use an OoS Weapon Spell Rit. If there's a pretty good derv build it would be great to hear about it. Derv and rit are the only classes I've really spent alot of time on so I would rather use these classes over the others.

Thanks in advance!

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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22 Aug 2008 at 09:42 - 2

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/...Orders_Dervish

Good in any physical heavy party, no matter what area you're in.

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

22 Aug 2008 at 11:29 - 3

Wounding strike + SY, and bring a monk

your welcome.

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

Blackwater Park

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27 Aug 2008 at 10:05 - 4

I don't like that order dervish build....basically [mystic healing] and [dwaynas touch] aren't so good....better [imbue health] and maybe ?[great dwarf armor]?

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

27 Aug 2008 at 14:19 - 5

^ I'm not a big fan of Dwayna's Touch for a hero as a hero will often pull themselves into aggro range with it, but Mystic Healing is great. No reason why they shouldn't have at least 3, usually 4 enchants up, making it basically a spammable Heal Party. Humans can run those two skills just fine.

Anyway, from what I've seen people like to take dervs with them on the full runs, but nobody wants them for actually fighting Mallyx. Any normal derv build (3-4 enchants) makes the entire team lose half their skills.

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

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27 Aug 2008 at 17:19 - 6

Fighting Mallyx is other stuff then a DoA run.

Dervish vs Mallyx = epic fail

Avatars? = cannot keep it up for [banish enchantment]
Enchantments?= see above

meele attacks?= avoid spamming conditions, [chilling victory]= useless, [mystic sweep]= WTF, [eremites attack]= WTF he is alone, [victorious sweep]= OOO yeah i got more health then Mallyx

anything else?= total fail.....all on dervish is based on enchantments so it's a total fail

A para is much more usefull against Mallyx...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

27 Aug 2008 at 17:24 - 7

Eremite's and Mystic aren't used only for the damage, but the IAS. Victorious is used to the damage. Just run shitloads of attack skills with Flail. You may not have the enchantments or whatever, but you've still got the most imbalanced and threatening weapon in the game.

Mystic Healing is a great skill to use on an Orders Dervish, and Dwayna's Touch on human Orders Dervs.

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

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28 Aug 2008 at 03:29 - 8

Originally Posted by Tender Care

Fighting Mallyx is other stuff then a DoA run.

Dervish vs Mallyx = epic fail

Avatars? = cannot keep it up for [banish enchantment]
Enchantments?= see above

meele attacks?= avoid spamming conditions, [chilling victory]= useless, [mystic sweep]= WTF, [eremites attack]= WTF he is alone, [victorious sweep]= OOO yeah i got more health then Mallyx

anything else?= total fail.....all on dervish is based on enchantments so it's a total fail

A para is much more usefull against Mallyx... I call BS. Load up the forsaken insignia and don't bring enchants. There are plenty of options that will work just fine.

joshuarodger

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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28 Aug 2008 at 03:33 - 9

to keep your avatar up, all you really need is [[eternal aura]. that's the only enchant a derv needs for an avatar. let me introduce you to [[twin moon sweep].

avatar->EA->TMS=no enchants and not enough time for mallyx to banish enchants.

lrn2derv

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

Blackwater Park

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28 Aug 2008 at 10:32 - 10

Mallyx doesn't care of ur insignias

Touch skills on allies...i really don't like it....sorry but i don't think it works so good....u cannot risk to get an aggroo just to heal a party member...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

28 Aug 2008 at 10:55 - 11

Originally Posted by Tender Care

Touch skills on allies...i really don't like it....sorry but i don't think it works so good....u cannot risk to get an aggroo just to heal a party member... It's used as a selfheal.

xakia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

not mexico

laaaaa

E/Me

28 Aug 2008 at 14:40 - 12

There are more than enough attacks that don't require conditions to use. Furthermore, there's nothing that stops you from bringing a form, signets, or stances.

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:16 - 13

Originally Posted by Tender Care

A para is much more usefull against Mallyx...

As far as PvE is concerned, para's (imbagons) are much more useful then ANY class against ANY enemy, so that's not saying much.

Originally Posted by joshuarodger

to keep your avatar up, all you really need is [[eternal aura]. that's the only enchant a derv needs for an avatar. let me introduce you to [[twin moon sweep].

avatar->EA->TMS=no enchants and not enough time for mallyx to banish enchants.

lrn2derv I really have to question your EA->TMS combo. EA has the normal aftercast of .75 seconds, and I believe that the actual hit of TMS comes at .75 seconds into the swing animation (halfway). That leaves 1.5 seconds total for mallyx to cast Banish enchantments, a skill that casts in .375 seconds with his boss hax. Its probably unlikely that he would cast banish enchantments on you unless his aggro was already on you, but do you really want to risk it? If Banish disables the wrong skills the party dies.

The Forms wouldn't be all that useful against him anyway. Melandru's condition immunity doesn't help, Lyssa's bonus won't be in play that often because his skills cast so fast, and the other forms are trash anyway. If you took a form you would be much safer just using it once during the instances where he spawns underlings.

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

Blackwater Park

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:24 - 14

Originally Posted by Tyla

It's used as a selfheal. [Dwayna's touch] can be self targeted??? anyway: as i said before if u wanna self heal [signet of pious light] + [vital boon] is a good combo...or [faithful intervention].

For party members heal: [imbue health] and the combo [vital boon] + [signet of pious light] i think it's better....it's just an opinion, tested....

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

28 Aug 2008 at 19:09 - 15

[Dwayna's Touch] is basically [Healing Touch] for dervs.

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

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29 Aug 2008 at 15:04 - 16

Originally Posted by The Meth

The Forms wouldn't be all that useful against him anyway. Melandru's condition immunity doesn't help, Lyssa's bonus won't be in play that often because his skills cast so fast, and the other forms are trash anyway. If you took a form you would be much safer just using it once during the instances where he spawns underlings. you're right, it is "possible" for him to use the skill but isn't likely. not only that but TMS removes the enchant upon activation not when it hits. and in all honesty, for a derv agains mallyx, [[avatar of baltha] is probably the "best" form. in most cases balth is trash but if a derv were to fight mallyx, the extra armor could come in handy as all the other forms have defeciencies(sp?) when it comes to mallyx in particular. also i wasn't saying a derv had to use a form, just that it was definitely possible.

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

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16 Sep 2008 at 08:54 - 17

Originally Posted by Tender Care

[Dwayna's touch] can be self targeted??? anyway: as i said before if u wanna self heal [signet of pious light] + [vital boon] is a good combo...or [faithful intervention]. [faithful intervention] is garbage... its a useless skill that wont save you from anything. Why don't you just suggest [mending].