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Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

27 Aug 2008 at 06:28 - 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by warek

There will be a brand new hero to add to your list. In September 2008 Anet is bringing out a new Derv hero.

His name is M.O.X the Golem. At the moment the following is known:
1) You must have access to all 3 campaigns and eotn on your account
2) M.O.X. is expected to be made available in the september update
3) M.O.X. will be susceptible to all conditions
4) This is a PvE-only hero who cannot be used in PvP

The method of acquisition has not yet been confirmed.

Also, the graphic currently in use on the wiki suggests there's a new box containing all guildwars games in one collection... His armour looks nice on it too... See image at http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/e/e..._the_Golem.jpg

And lo and behold, there is a page dedicated to that in the wiki too... See below.

M.O.X. the Golem
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/M.O.X._the_Golem

GuildWars: The Complete Collection
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild...ete_Collection

I wanted to bring attention to this matter and i want to hear peeps opinions on gaining another Hero. Like Pve only skills which are totally h4x this new hero will be pve only and likely to be very useful in hard mode environments. What i want to know is has Anet gone to far in separating the pvp from the pve or are you all for this new hero? Anet has already recently separated the two 'worlds' by making many skills a pve and pvp version. So have they gone to far? i want to know your opinions.

Personally i am all for it it generally surprised me when there was not a Golem Asuran hero he one could fit into the story line perfectly. Making him pve only however is a different matter Anet has indeed made great changes from the two 'worlds' this is not necessarily a bad thing only it kinda pisses me off when my lightning orbs don't crack armor anymore

of course if you read the wiki info it mentions him only being excluded from pvp due to his large size despite this a large body blocking hero in pve could be used to great advantage i myself use dervs to manage agro this guy has a key advantage over the other heroes so it is understandable why he is not in pvp . In which case Im all for the pve pvp separation

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

27 Aug 2008 at 06:35 - 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiki

Because its large size could become a possible advantage in PvP (by blocking a player's view), this hero will be PvE only and will not be usable in PvP.

Since it's a logical reason of giving an advantage in PvP through blocking vision, and not because it's going to be super powerful, I don't think this really matters in the separating of the two 'worlds.'

Not many people even use Dervish primary heroes outside of Arcane Orders and in HB for various capping builds.

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

27 Aug 2008 at 06:42 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana

Not many people even use Dervish primary heroes outside of Arcane Orders and in HB for various capping builds.

Thats very true yet somehow i believe every PuG is gonna be using him

Hell i will! yet in my defense i do use derv's a reasonable amount

Scythe mark of pain = boom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

Already big thread bought this

Thankie for contributing ^.^ yes i guessed there would be but hey feel free to close mods if you feel it must.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

27 Aug 2008 at 06:51 - 4

Already big thread bought this

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

27 Aug 2008 at 07:15 - 5

lol dervish heroes
nobody uses those

as for the size problem im sure they could have scaled the model down a bit to regular npc dimensions

it might have been impressive if say he had variable primary profession or some other unique feature

in the end thou its just another skin, regular hero like all the rest, and after sept 4th noone will use it

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

27 Aug 2008 at 07:43 - 6

Well I'm looking forward to this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiki

M.O.X. will use unique models for the five avatar forms.

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

27 Aug 2008 at 07:49 - 7

Melee AI is pathetic and Derv heroes serve little use, I'm guessing people will use him to see his unique avatar forms and then forget about it.

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

27 Aug 2008 at 07:53 - 8

I wish MOX was identical to those golems you get in the second to last GWEN mission. He's pve only after all

And otherwise i just use him as an ele.

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

27 Aug 2008 at 08:01 - 9

I'm personally all for this hero being PvE only. It's not as if PvP players are starved for choice, and I'm sure most PvPers will agree that it is better to have it PvE than to add the advantage of seeing it's rather unique forms and have his huge size act as hindrance.

I am really looking forward to seeing his unique god forms. Can't wait for him to be added.

Sweet Mystery

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Shadow Hunters Of Light [SHOL]

R/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:03 - 10

Well MOX will be checked out of course.... need to see how he can handle things and who knows there may be some good builds out there.... melee tank literally.... lol...

Hermos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Forever in Demand [FiD]

A/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:17 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Mystery

Well MOX will be checked out of course.... need to see how he can handle things and who knows there may be some good builds out there.... melee tank literally.... lol...

D/W
Avatar of Balthazar
Conviction
Mystic Regen
Doylak Signet
Watch Yourself!
Fleeting Stability
Shields Up!

L33T H4X ARMOR TANKZ

lolfail, all the pugs are gonna use Avvy of Balthazar. Great.

"But he has +armor and look how big he is!!!!1"

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway

R/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:19 - 12

So instead of fixing the screwed AI of the heroes, we get a new hero. Awesome.

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:20 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothan Celt

Thats very true yet somehow i believe every PuG is gonna be using him

WHy? Because dervish heroes are really popular right now? No i don't think so.
Its a dervish, it has no special ablility or anything, just another one like we already have. Why is everyone suddenly going to be using it? On all my characters my melonni's have the skills they started with and I use them to hold extra weapons I cant fit in storage.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

27 Aug 2008 at 08:24 - 14

Meh... I'll do the quest or whatever to get it on my main for something to do. Then I'll let it sit in the cyber-closet like so many other heroes that I don't use.

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:33 - 15

I am kinda hoping it will have something special. Ability to use 1 pve skill or perhaps be able to maintain an infinite form. Otherwise I wish it would of had a variable profession. I really don't use dervish/ melee heroes for anything any more. They just run around like headless chickens when i'm constantly targeting different enemies.

Alex Dimitri

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Passionate Kiss Of Nosferatu [KISS]

N/Mo

27 Aug 2008 at 08:38 - 16

Hehe, another one for the collection :P !

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:39 - 17

They COULD give us a useful hero like a Paragon or a Ritualist...

But no, instead they are giving us a THIRD dervish hero that nobody will use. I mean, come on, I think only one my character has Kahmu and that's Mesmer... The only situation I can think of when I will use MOX is if my Melonni is under 15. Level.

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:41 - 18

Oh wait I know a use for it! I can't believe I didn't think of it. It is going to be my third hero needed for my hfff kurzick side. Shadow form, pious haste, dash= permanent speed boost. Hooray now my shores runner will get there even quicker lol.

Triple d/a with dash and pious haste ftw.

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

27 Aug 2008 at 08:55 - 19

Would rather have more weapon skins or something. Yay for useless heroes!

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

27 Aug 2008 at 09:08 - 20

PvE only skills
PvE only heroes
...
PvE only weapons

It's gonna happen.

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

27 Aug 2008 at 09:17 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykan

WHy? Because dervish heroes are really popular right now? No i don't think so.

PUGs will use it as it looks cool, 1337 or whatever they call it.

SpotJorge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Temple Of Love

R/E

27 Aug 2008 at 09:26 - 22

add heros like Jora or Livia

who need to be playing looking to a crap golem

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

27 Aug 2008 at 10:13 - 23

hi
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10316321

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

27 Aug 2008 at 10:13 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothan Celt

Like Pve only skills which are totally h4x this new hero will be pve only and likely to be very useful in hard mode environments

Definitly! A very shinny new dervish hero is definitly an insane hack to make my life 100 times easier.

No. More like a dervish hero that will sit in my "heroes" panel to gain dust. There is nothing special about this hero that makes it any better than the others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothan Celt

Anet has already recently separated the two 'worlds' by making many skills a pve and pvp version. So have they gone to far

No. It's how things have been done for awhile. They've worked just fine. No need to get upset when the GOLEM can't be used to "pwn uppsum nuubs N heroexx battlez."

Honestly. Who is actually going to use this thing; other than just to take pictures of what his 5 avatar forms look like for wiki.

KoKoS

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

aBove Empress Amarox xP

KDT

Mo/E

27 Aug 2008 at 10:42 - 25

YaY! A new derv hero!!

I found out who is gonna hold my old Asuran Scythe

*remembers* 0mg Razah ownz!

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

27 Aug 2008 at 11:37 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

Definitly! A very shinny new dervish hero is definitly an insane hack to make my life 100 times easier.

No. More like a dervish hero that will sit in my "heroes" panel to gain dust. There is nothing special about this hero that makes it any better than the others.

No. It's how things have been done for awhile.
No need to get upset when the GOLEM can't be used to "pwn uppsum nuubs N heroexx battlez."

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Well the main factor at the moment is that we do not know if he will be any different from the other hero's ^.^ And no its pretty recent in my terms anyway hardly been several months yet

unless your referring to something that happened awhile back. I'm not upset I only ever got upset with a game when Zack died

Anywho i dnt HB its boring but if i did be cool to have a Uber looking MOX zipping around the map

btw its Definitely

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Puppeteer

hi
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10316321.

Hi! cute avatar ty for the link i knew it already i created another thread because from experience my post would be ignored at anyrate i asked for opinion rather than just share links this thread is discussing not only this hero but the growing gap between pve and pvp. Asking the question when will it stop as the spazzar said....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spazzer

PvE only skills
PvE only heroes
...
PvE only weapons

It's gonna happen.

^thats the point of this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

PUGs will use it as it looks cool, 1337 or whatever they call it.

my point exactly its painfully obvious that if you pug for i dunno a mission someones gonna add him because he looks Uber leet

Personally unless im teaming with arrogant I'm a really good player! pugs then i will props leave him in the cupboard. However if i happen to need to do.... i dunno fort ranik i might take him along

Pyre in fort ranik...
Newbie: Where ya get that fox?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

They COULD give us a useful hero like a Paragon or a Ritualist...

But no, instead they are giving us a THIRD dervish hero that nobody will use. I mean, come on, I think only one my character has Kahmu and that's Mesmer... The only situation I can think of when I will use MOX is if my Melonni is under 15. Level.

Yes i mean derv hero's are in my opinion the least used. However perhaps MOX will have a advantage over the others.. But I am generally annoyed with the fact that hes a derv hero i would have gone for practically any other profession derv heroes have never been strong and being unable to maintain a form as well as there crazy AI makes them..... a headache yet maybe thats the point of MOX seeing as he is a PvE only hero it wouldn't surprise me if he was buffed with some kinda ultra buffing machine

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

27 Aug 2008 at 11:41 - 27

I think he looks pretty cool. Time for a new Derv-way build setup... :P

oh, and mechanical avatars of the gods will be so cool. <3

Gundam Balthazar Dervish!
Gundam Dwayna Dervish!
Gundam Melandru Dervish!
Gundam Grenth Dervish!
Gundam Lyssa Dervish!

ooooh, and maybe he will use a transformers like animation to change into them!! w000t!

MOX! Transform and roll out!!! *makes autobot sound* I'm gonna love this one xD

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

27 Aug 2008 at 11:47 - 28

I already don't use my Dervish heroes.

Mox will pop into my team, spam all the forms he can use so I can see what's so special about him, and then get kicked off again in favor of anything else that is actually useful.

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

27 Aug 2008 at 12:02 - 29

Quote:

Because its large size could become a possible advantage in PvP (by blocking a player's view), this hero will be PvE only and will not be usable in PvP

Because dervish heroes are so amazing in PvP (or even PvE) amirite?

Wtb paragon or rit hero or other heroes with ability to use PvE-only skills.

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

27 Aug 2008 at 12:57 - 30

New content for free = win

go red the QQer's.

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

27 Aug 2008 at 13:09 - 31

Post in the existing MOX thread. Closed.