Nightfall max scythe?

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

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Where can I locate the best scythe in the Nightfall missions? By "best", I mean max damage, and stats, it doesn't have to be a zealous, although that would be nice. I know of the one at Drok's, but I want to beat Nightfall prior to doing prophecies with this guy.

SOF

SOF

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

The Rejected Sins [SOF]

Errr.
Not sure what you mean but I think I do.
In which case.
It'll be the end-game one you get after the last mission. *Don't want to spoil with names if you haven't already completed Nightfall*

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

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Not exactly sure what you are getting at here, but a Max Damage Scythe is 9-41 dmg. The "best" scythe depends on your build. Any Max dmg scythe with an inscription slot can be made to suit your build. If you want a Green one then I'd say one of Mallyx's would be the best/most prestigious.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

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i don't think there is a "best" scythe. any non-green, max damage, req 9 scythe can be modded anyway you like... you just have to have/buy the mods. collectors and weaponsmiths on the mainland trade/sell max scythes but you can get a req 9, max one from any chest drop or enemy dervish you kill.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

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There is no "best" weapon. There is the "ideal" weapon for a build. But there is a zealous 15^50 +30 scythe at the end of nightfall. There are some 15^50 zealous +20% enchants in nightfall.

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

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That is why I said "best" meaning max damage (I know it's 9-41) with a good bonus or inscribable. I got one for five insect capaces from a collector on the coast, but it isn't inscribable. I am playing conservatively and earning my second rank of survivor, but I'd like a better scythe. Right now I have +15% while enchanted with 9-41 for damage. I am currently focusing on jacking up my mysticism. I just got my AL70 Sunspear armor, and have decided to jack up mysticism for the energy and health gains, since that's probably more important than 2~4 more ranks in scythe mastery for most-likely a low extra damage bonus.


So I am basically looking for a 9-41 scythe that is either inscribable or comes with one hell of a good buff. Thanks for any suggestions.

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=37

Try that link, It seems all you are looking for is a max gold scythe. naked maybe, so you can get a perfect salvage kit and try out some different mods for it.

20k gold should be more than enough to make a perfect gold scythe. That is including mods and skin. You may be able to even find one that is inscribable for that price

id recommend finding a Cruel scythe snathe that Lengthens Deep Wound duration on foes by 33% if you like [avatar of melandru] + [wearying strike] or [wounding strike]... or a Zealous snathe
And maybe a Scythe Grip of Enchanting or Fortitude
And then if you find an inscribable scythe, i have always liked the Damage +15% while enchanted

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

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Cruel upgrade sucks.

You're a frontliner with low armor, that gets energy to spam it's skills from enchantments ending. Why would you need extra enchantments? At least not as main weapon...

daze

daze

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Join Date: Aug 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALF71BE
Cruel upgrade sucks.

You're a frontliner with low armor, that gets energy to spam it's skills from enchantments ending. Why would you need extra enchantments? At least not as main weapon... That is why i recommended that he get a perfect salvage kit and try out some mods so he can decide for himself. IMO cruel snathe is very nice when you are spamming DW, I have a Cruel scythe that i use periodically and a zealous that i can switch to for energy management. I find it to be the best mods that are needed for any area.

As for frontliner with low armor? Hardly, 70AL is midline armor not low. Since i like spamming conditions anyways [armor of sanctity] really helps negate a lot of the damage dealt. Not to mention that dervs have more self defense skills than you can shake a scythe at.

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by daze
That is why i recommended that he get a perfect salvage kit and try out some mods so he can decide for himself. IMO cruel snathe is very nice when you are spamming DW, I have a Cruel scythe that i use periodically and a zealous that i can switch to for energy management. I find it to be the best mods that are needed for any area.

As for frontliner with low armor? Hardly, 70AL is midline armor not low. Since i like spamming conditions anyways [armor of sanctity] really helps negate a lot of the damage dealt. Not to mention that dervs have more self defense skills than you can shake a scythe at. IMO if you're spamming DW, you don't need to lenghthen the duration since you're quickly re-applying.

70AL is low armor for a frontliner, just watch the duration in the battlefield for Gehraz and Devona, it's like the sins henchies in Factions.

And I hope you're more of the shaking scythe type than self-protecting. Most enchantments can be re-applied when they end, Armor of Sanctity included. Other enchantments are not worth the skill slot, such as Mystic Regeneration. IMO only Heart of Fury needs a longer duration, but then many use [eternal aura] so it can be kept up most of the time anyways.

Mister PMA

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

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daze

daze

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALF71BE
IMO if you're spamming DW, you don't need to lenghthen the duration since you're quickly re-applying. I like to use the tab key to spread the condition love around to everyone surrounding me(since a scythe only hit 3 enemies) the longer duration does offer noticeable help. especially if i bring Gwen with [extend conditions] or [epidemic] or [hypochondria]

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

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You then spend energy and hero usage on something you can spam every 6-8 seconds (less if running Wounding Strike).

Conditions in PvE aren't that important except for four; DW is there to finish the kill, Weakness that can be easily applied by a necro, daze that is a costly condition and IMO the only worth spreading and lenghtening (silencing mod of course, no need of waste skill slot) and blind which will most likely work on about half of PvE and has a short duration.

And you spend time running to spread the love from mob A to mob B which is time you aren't spending on dealing damage, and this is just wasted potential.

daze

daze

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Join Date: Aug 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALF71BE
You then spend energy and hero usage on something you can spam every 6-8 seconds (less if running Wounding Strike).

Conditions in PvE aren't that important except for four; DW is there to finish the kill, Weakness that can be easily applied by a necro, daze that is a costly condition and IMO the only worth spreading and lenghtening (silencing mod of course, no need of waste skill slot) and blind which will most likely work on about half of PvE and has a short duration.

And you spend time running to spread the love from mob A to mob B which is time you aren't spending on dealing damage, and this is just wasted potential. I brought an [extend conditions] Mez along with a water hex Ele along with a 6 hero [discord] team and all i can say is "nice"
this is what the 8 man team looked like. Its the best [[discord] team i have ever ran

[extend conditions] energy leech
[elemental attunement] water hex
[virulence] minion bomber
[discord] N/Rt
[discord] N/Rt
[discord] N/mo
[discord] N/mo
[discord] N

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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it seems that the virulence necro would be a waste in that build. by the time you've used virulence, the taget should be dead from all the discord spam. honestly you should probably just run another copy of discord or maybe [[tainted flesh], [[jagged b], or [[icy veins]

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Don't people just run Discord teams with AP + You Move Like a Dwarf + Finish Him on the player(s)? Necros carry Putrid Explosion/Bile and some defense. You really don't need to spread conditions/hexes to multiple enemies because Discord is single-target anyway. Bind the hero skill command keys for clean spikes.

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
Don't people just run Discord teams with AP + You Move Like a Dwarf + Finish Him on the player(s)? Necros carry Putrid Explosion/Bile and some defense. You really don't need to spread conditions/hexes to multiple enemies because Discord is single-target anyway. Bind the hero skill command keys for clean spikes.
Ya, ive kind of discovered that. It still helps a bit as it seems to handicap the rest of the enemies while all heroes focus [[discord] spike on one enemy. The Aoe Hex and condition do not offer much support for [[discord] but it is still conforting to know that i can easily tab to any pesky enemy and call out [[discord] on it to have it die instantly at any time without having to prep it with condition and hex first (a couple condition/hex remover monk or mez enemies would be the only exception) but aoe condition and hex keeps them occupied anyways. And i keep the <9>,<0> and <-> key macro'ed to skill slot one on each hero.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshuarodger
it seems that the virulence necro would be a waste in that build. by the time you've used virulence, the taget should be dead from all the discord spam. honestly you should probably just run another copy of discord or maybe [[tainted flesh], [[jagged b], or [[icy veins] [[jagged b] is what i usually run on my minion bomber, i was just playing with other variations to see how much debuff i could throw out.

Dyorian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2008

Pillars of Earth

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You're not looking for the 'best scythe', because there isn't one. All you need is a 15^50 inscrip, sundering scythe snathe, and enchant +20%. Get an inscribable scythe skin that you like, and there's a perfect generic scythe to use on a derv.

I recommend a Clockwork Scythe with those parts. Looks niiice. ^^

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Sundering mods are greatly overrated. If you're in it for damage, go with vampiric, but otherwise utility stuff like zealous or even elemental snathes (so you can use them with conjure skills without needing a damage-converting enchantment) work better.

Also, for a dervish 15% while enchanted can be a viable choice for an inscription, although in PvP at least 15^50 does tend to be better.