Question about the hero's handbook

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 17:58 - 1
Hi, I have done all the primary quests in EotN before I realized there is a hero's handbook you can get in the game, and apparently its a very efficient way to farm reputation points with the book. So here is my question: Do I have to redo all the repeatable primary quests to fill the book?

I went to wiki, and saw this:
If you did not have a book in your inventory while completing quest, one of the previously named NPCs will add it to your book for a price of 100 Gold per page (only once per each quest completion).

What does this mean?

Sharkman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

28 Aug 2008 at 18:00 - 2
It means that you can pay 100g each to fill in the pages for the quests that you already did prior to having the book. You will only be able to do this once though, but it would probably be worth buying them all for the rep points imo.

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:18 - 3
Thanks, Shark, but I still a little confused...

Who i supposed to talk with to "buy" those quests? And I went talk to the NPC who gave those quests and also the NPC who offered the book, but none of those guys gave you such option...

Dzjudz

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:42 - 4
The NPC who gives you the book gives you the option.

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:51 - 5
Hi, Dzjudz, I did talk to Gedrel of Ascalon who gave me the book, but i didnt find that option. Did i miss something?

-Lotus-

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:55 - 6
yes you missed something. look better.

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 19:07 - 7
Well, let me show you waht i got, lol

Hi, Mr Gedrel of Ascalon, what can i get from you?

Mr Gedrel of Ascalon:

option 1) For Ascalon!How exactly do i increase my reputation, though?

option 2) I'm interested in skills for my heroes.

option 3) Written evidence?

option 4) Ill be on my way.


So I clicked the option 3, (click the option 1 also lead you to written evidence)
and there are other 5 options.

option 1) Look at my Hero's Handbook.

option 2) Look at my Master Dungeon Guide.

option 3) I would like an empty Hero's Handbook[Hard Mode].

option 4) I would like an empty Master Dungeon Handbook[Hard Mode].

option 5) Ill be on my way.


Then I clicked option 1, the only option he gave me is,

Option) Ill be on my way.

Since I only fill the 5 pages of that book..(YES YES THATS WHY I NEED TO BUY THOSE QUESTS I ALREADY FINISHED!! )


So......

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 19:52 - 8
are the pages you have done these
1. the beginning of the end
2. the missing vanguard
6. northern allies
10. the knowledgeable asura
14. against the destroyes

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 19:57 - 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty
are the pages you have done these
1. the beginning of the end
2. the missing vanguard
6. northern allies
10. the knowledgeable asura
14. against the destroyes
Exactly......

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:04 - 10
i could be wrong on this but i beleave that those are the only ones that you can buy for your book and the other pages 3,4,5 7,8,9 11,12,13 15,and 16 can be retaken from the scything pool in the hall of monuments if i am wrong sorry but i have been filling books for my titles and thats the way i do it

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:06 - 11
You get those for free in every book you obtain.

Once you have completed them, you don't need to complete them again. Just open your book and you will see them.

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:12 - 12
yes i know that but if you did not have a book when you completed them for the first time like what happened to me you have to pay to have them put in your first book that you obtain

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:13 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty
i could be wrong on this but i beleave that those are the only ones that you can buy for your book and the other pages 3,4,5 7,8,9 11,12,13 15,and 16 can be retaken from the scything pool in the hall of monuments if i am wrong sorry but i have been filling books for my titles and thats the way i do it
NO, those are free and you got them for every new book and every char if you finished those quests once.

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:25 - 14
Come on guys!! Someone plz tell me what happed to me!!! Why I Can't buy those stupid quests for my book???!!! Do I need to at least fill halfway of the book (which is 8) to let the NPC do it???

Savio

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:29 - 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angela Faye
If you did not have a book in your inventory while completing quest, one of the previously named NPCs will add it to your book for a price of 100 Gold per page (only once per each quest completion).

What does this mean?
Let's say you did "Blood Washes Blood", but you accidentally left your book in storage, or you forgot to get a new one. When you complete that mission, it won't be filled in your book because you didn't have it with you. If you get your book later and talk to the book NPCs, they'll put it in your book for 100g.

If for some reason the NPCs won't fill in your book, you'll just have to do them all over again.

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:30 - 16
like i said could be wrong anyways what primary quests are you trying to buy for the book

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:32 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Let's say you did "Blood Washes Blood", but you accidentally left your book in storage, or you forgot to get a new one. When you complete that mission, it won't be filled in your book because you didn't have it with you. If you get your book later and talk to the book NPCs, they'll put it in your book for 100g.

Thanks Savio, I totally understand that now, but my problem is I CANT find such option at book NPCs. If you read my post above you will find what i mean.

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:35 - 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty
like i said could be wrong anyways what primary quests are you trying to buy for the book
All the others which are repeatable ones... 3,4,5 7,8,9 11,12,13,15 and 16.


I knew I could redo them with my book, but that will waste too much time..

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:50 - 19
well if you have your book in your inventory and he doesn't offer to put them in your book when you click on written evidence i think you will have to them over.

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:55 - 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty
well if you have your book in your inventory and he doesn't offer to put them in your book when you click on written evidence i think you will have to them over.

Why? Thats unfair, lol...Did this happen to anyone else here?? I REALLY need answer to this. I don't believe this is just a game bug to me.

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 20:59 - 21
the only other thing i can think of is that you have a hard mode book instead of a normal mode book but when i get home from work i am going to do a quest without my book and then get my book and go to the guy and see what happens

Quaker

Quaker

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28 Aug 2008 at 21:01 - 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by angela faye
Do I have to redo all the repeatable primary quests to fill the book?
Normally, no you don't have to redo them. You should have gotten the option to pay the 100g per page from the NPC. I don't know why you didn't, but perhaps it has something to do with the fact that you did all of the quests? I don't think it matters which NPC you talk to, but every time I did it, I think it was the guy in EotN outpost I talked to.
I'm 99% sure it doesn't matter whether or not you don't have a book, or simply didn't have it with you either. I don't know what to tell ya.

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 21:05 - 23
well the only other thing i think of is you have a hard mode book instead of a normal mode book but when i get home from work i am going to do a quest without my book and see what happens

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 21:06 - 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty
the only other thing i can think of is that you have a hard mode book instead of a normal mode book but when i get home from work i am going to do a quest without my book and then get my book and go to the guy and see what happens

No, what i have in my inventory is NM handbook and thats why the book NPC showed me the options to let me pick up an HM handbook.( if you already have a HM handbook in your inventory they wont offer you the extra book!) But anyway thank you so much for your help!

tcratty

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28 Aug 2008 at 21:11 - 25
sorry about the double post and sorry i couldn't help out

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 21:46 - 26
Well, could someone put a screen shoot of buying those quests form the book NPC? I would like to see that option which I cant get for my char. Thanks a bunch here!

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

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Join Date: Feb 2008

28 Aug 2008 at 23:02 - 27
Did you try deleting your book (Or putting it in storage) and getting a new book then asking?

Once you have done those 5 quests. They are in each and every book and you can't even buy them. They just appear automatically.

The OTHER ones are able to be bought if you left your book in storage or something.

angela faye

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28 Aug 2008 at 23:16 - 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
Did you try deleting your book (Or putting it in storage) and getting a new book then asking?
I definitely tried that.... Didn't work!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
Once you have done those 5 quests. They are in each and every book and you can't even buy them. They just appear automatically.
Well, I knew that, i just want to buy the other 11 repeatable quests. Those 5 quests are NON repeatable so there is no way you can redo them!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
The OTHER ones are able to be bought if you left your book in storage or something.
Just tried, didn't work either...




Oh, GODS, plz help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

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28 Aug 2008 at 23:38 - 29
Step 1. Do a quest without book.
Step 2. Notice you didn't have book.
Step 3. Go to bookgiver (Doesn't matter which faction as long as you can still get the book. For example. If you are r10 norn. You cannot get a NM book from Tyr in Gunnar's Hold. But you can get one from the Asura.
Step 4. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw009.jpg - Notice no book. Click on "Written Evidence"
Step 5. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw010.jpg - Click on "I would like an Empty Hero's Handbook".
Step 6. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw011.jpg - Now you have book.
Step 7. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw012.jpg - Talk to him again and again click on "Written Evidence"
Step 8. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw013.jpg - Pay the 100g (Or more if you did more quests).

If the above steps don't work. You either didn't do the quests, or you are trying to get a book from a faction that you can't turn in a NM book to. (You already have level 8 in that faction)

angela faye

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29 Aug 2008 at 00:18 - 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
Step 1. Do a quest without book.
Step 2. Notice you didn't have book.
Step 3. Go to bookgiver (Doesn't matter which faction as long as you can still get the book. For example. If you are r10 norn. You cannot get a NM book from Tyr in Gunnar's Hold. But you can get one from the Asura.
Step 4. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw009.jpg - Notice no book. Click on "Written Evidence"
Step 5. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw010.jpg - Click on "I would like an Empty Hero's Handbook".
Step 6. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw011.jpg - Now you have book.
Step 7. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw012.jpg - Talk to him again and again click on "Written Evidence"
Step 8. http://members.cox.net/spamkumu/GuildWars%20/gw013.jpg - Pay the 100g (Or more if you did more quests).

Well, here is the story:

I did the quest "against the charr" without carrying the book.

Went to eye of the north, and got a NM hero's handbook from Gedrel of Ascalon.(btw, my Ebon Vangard rank is only 5)


And YEAH, this time he did give me the option to buy that quest for my book for 100g.


BUT.. that still means if I want to fill all pages of my book I have to REDO all the repeatable primary quests!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
If the above steps don't work. You either didn't do the quests, or you are trying to get a book from a faction that you can't turn in a NM book to. (You already have level 8 in that faction)

My Ele have beaten the EtON, so I definitely did all the PRIMARY quests. And my rank of Ebon Vangaurd is only 5. How could you explain that???!!!

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

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29 Aug 2008 at 00:51 - 31
I showed you how to add a quest to the book. If he only added that one quest. Then that is the only quest you did without a book. You will have to do the rest to finish the book.

You misunderstood my statement. I said that if the steps above didn't allow you to buy pages in your book then you either didn't do the quest or you were talking to a book guy that you cannot turn in a book for. You cannot turn in a NM book to the book guy with a faction that you already have rank 8.

Not that you will have rank 8 by finishing EotN. You could finish with very little reputation.

angela faye

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29 Aug 2008 at 01:07 - 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
I showed you how to add a quest to the book. If he only added that one quest. Then that is the only quest you did without a book. You will have to do the rest to finish the book.

You misunderstood my statement. I said that if the steps above didn't allow you to buy pages in your book then you either didn't do the quest or you were talking to a book guy that you cannot turn in a book for. You cannot turn in a NM book to the book guy with a faction that you already have rank 8.

Not that you will have rank 8 by finishing EotN. You could finish with very little reputation.
Hm..I think you misunderstood me here...Since you told me if I cant buy pages for my book, then there are only 2 reasons for that: 1) I didnt do those quests. 2) My rank is over 8, I cant get points from NM handbook anymore. Thats why I was trying to tell you 1) MY ele have beaten the EtoN, so there is no reason that I haven't done any primary quests yet. 2) My Ebon Vagaurd rank is only 5, and the book NPC I asked is Gedrel of Ascalon who will give you the reputation points of vanguard. So I still can get points from the NM handbook. (well, my other ranks are 9 now thats why I only ask hime to get my normal mode handbook)

And since I just realized there is a hero's handbook in the game after I beat the whole game, so technically I have done all the quests without the book!


So my question still is:

WHY THE HELL I CANT BUY PAGES FOR MY HERO's HANDBOOK?

Gutz

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29 Aug 2008 at 01:53 - 33
You have r9 in your other reputations but you have yet to hand in a completed hero handbook in NM? Sounds fishy...you 100% sure that you didnt already complete a hero handbook for those other reps you got 9 in?

angela faye

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29 Aug 2008 at 02:06 - 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutz
You have r9 in your other reputations but you have yet to hand in a completed hero handbook in NM? Sounds fishy...

Well, thats easy to explain..

Raptors farming ----> easy Asura points--->rank 9

Spectral Vaetirrs Farming----> easy Norn points---> rank 9

Dungeon chest farming -----> easy Deldrimor points-----> rank 9 Don't doubt about that cuz I like farming, i have around 25 million exp and 1407 skill points in this single char. Most came from solo farming!

Nothing to farm in charr land------> only rank 5 of Ebon Vanguard now

And i might be so dumb that I just found out its a very easy way to earn points using hero's handbook, so I decided to use it to get my vangard rank a little higher!

Still sounds fishy?

Gutz

Gutz

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29 Aug 2008 at 02:36 - 35
In that case all i can suggest is you just repeat the book again and hand it in...ive done it several times for both NM and HM to max my titles so it really isnt that bad at all.

Defbuster

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29 Aug 2008 at 02:42 - 36
Make sure you have your book in your inventory...Then talk to the guy and click on written evidence. Then he will "look" at your book and say he noticed you are missing some. Would you like to add them for 100gp? Oh yeah make sure you have some gold on you as well....Going to check and see if this is right lol

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

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29 Aug 2008 at 02:43 - 37
Just re-do the quests. In Normal mode you should stomp all over it in about an hour.

angela faye

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29 Aug 2008 at 03:17 - 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Defbuster
Make sure you have your book in your inventory...Then talk to the guy and click on written evidence. Then he will "look" at your book and say he noticed you are missing some. Would you like to add them for 100gp? Oh yeah make sure you have some gold on you as well....Going to check and see if this is right lol
I exactly did that, he did "look" at my book and told me I haven't fill the halfway of the book, so he refused to take my book and give me the reputation points.( yeah, I only unlocked 5 non-repeatable primary quests at the moment thats why I need to buy those dam quests which I have done without carrying the book.) And unfortunately he NEVER noticed that I was missing some and will let me buy them for 100g each!

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

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29 Aug 2008 at 03:20 - 39
well either:
a] you didnt finish eotn (which I find pretty likely as you seem to have no idea whats going on)
b] you totally fail at reading.
or c] you have discovered a bug that hasnt reportedly affected anyone else.


my money's on a.

angela faye

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29 Aug 2008 at 03:24 - 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
Just re-do the quests. In Normal mode you should stomp all over it in about an hour.
Redo all the 11 repeatable primary quests in about an hour, how could you do that? I just redid the "against the charr" and " blood washes blood" quests, which took me almost an hour. And actually those 2 might be the easiest one among those 11 quests. Some of them need you to run though a whole 3-level dungeon.

I still want to figure out what happened to me! There must be some tricks I didnt know yet.... I dont believe thats just a game bug on me!!!