Alright, I have been thinking... the kick function has been more negative than positive. In PUGs they generally start terrible arguments of "u noob yd u kick me" and "OMG noob build KICK!!!!". My way around this is veto, like they have in Halo, where most people need to agree that person needs to be kicked. After a person has been vetoed, they will be given 5-10 seconds before being formally booted (this gives them a chance to leave themselves).
I know its not much, but when I was starting in UW and other PUG group environment, i was always kicked because of being a noob and i would willingly leave if people told me to. I found it disrescpetful and rude and everytime i start a group i make kicking an option to the person who is targeted. Leave willingly or in 5 seconds ill kick (or less for bad behavior)
Any other ideas (not including OMG DON'T PUG, PUGing includes flaming!!!), id be glad to hear em.
Remove the Kick Function
Dante the Warlord
Zahr Dalsk
Eh. Signed for the amusement such a change would undoubtedly bring. I might join a PUG just for that, because annoying the group leader would be even more fun then.
/signed
/signed
ALF71BE
PuG's already take ~15 minutes to be formed.
Lenghtnening that is just boring.
And what about trading? When I'm trading and see something I want to buy or someone that wants one of my items, I invite them, to see their location. Most of the time they accept as they aren't very experienced, and then, if I want to keep my position in Party Search, I have to kick them.
Kicking also allows for quickly dispatching people that just doesn't fits in the situation, like when farming LB/SS and a guy invited doesn't knows how it works and hasn't finished NF. Then the whole group screws and there are ocasionally some very slow peeps that take their time to response.
When you're pugging you either fit or don't fit according to the leader's eyes. Live with it.
/notsigned.
Lenghtnening that is just boring.
And what about trading? When I'm trading and see something I want to buy or someone that wants one of my items, I invite them, to see their location. Most of the time they accept as they aren't very experienced, and then, if I want to keep my position in Party Search, I have to kick them.
Kicking also allows for quickly dispatching people that just doesn't fits in the situation, like when farming LB/SS and a guy invited doesn't knows how it works and hasn't finished NF. Then the whole group screws and there are ocasionally some very slow peeps that take their time to response.
When you're pugging you either fit or don't fit according to the leader's eyes. Live with it.
/notsigned.
Lawliet Kira
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
What if you invite someone by accident and they dont want to leave? And people are afk? What then? The person the organized the group deserves to have the option to kick them. Its their group. And if for a group...this guy has the worst bar ( some guy had this ranger with all mes skills ) 2 ppl were afk...i kicked him without even thinking for even 2 seconds
/NOTsigned
What if you invite someone by accident and they dont want to leave? And people are afk? What then? The person the organized the group deserves to have the option to kick them. Its their group. And if for a group...this guy has the worst bar ( some guy had this ranger with all mes skills ) 2 ppl were afk...i kicked him without even thinking for even 2 seconds
/NOTsigned
A11Eur0
Horrible idea...leave it as-is, party leader can kick whom he/she wants. That's the whole benefit to being party leader.
Songbringer
Sorry but just because you got kicked and you are to young to accept it and move on I won't sign. /notsigned. Get over it. I mean come on grow up. Boo hoo mommy they kicked me from the group for running flare mending no elite and 4 cap sigs. I am sure you deserved it. Can I have my 30 seconds of life back now that you stole from me.
russiansteven
This is a horrible idea. But what they should remove is the kick option from guilds. The leader of a guild has the right to kick anyone from the guild in my opinion. I belieave that only the guild leader can kick while the officers are not allowed to. I am very catuious of promotiong people because I am scared they shall kick people out because of no reason.
- This whole entite idea is horrible because as I said the leader of anything is the leader and he has the right to kick anyone no matter if they have a good
reason or not.
/nosigned move on and get over it like songbringer said if you dont like the group or something about partys than dont join other people in missions or stuff go with heros and stuff than
- This whole entite idea is horrible because as I said the leader of anything is the leader and he has the right to kick anyone no matter if they have a good
reason or not.
/nosigned move on and get over it like songbringer said if you dont like the group or something about partys than dont join other people in missions or stuff go with heros and stuff than
GaaaaaH
if you dont agree with the leader, then leave the party - easy
crazybanshee
Nope. we need the kick. Sucks that you got kicked a lot, but there's some very kickworthy people who just won't leave a group of their own free will.
Defbuster
That is why they are the leader of the party...they have the ability to kick you. Starting a PUG is already a painful enough process...I dont think we need to make it worse.
Monk Gsb
wayyyyy back in 05 there was this thread. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=15509 titled "please add a "Kick" function" so removing somthing they added that has been in the game since 05, i dont think that will happen, same with the vote kicking. just read that thread for reasons cause there is only trolls on the forums now (compared to 05)
Master Sword Keeper
remove the "kick' button???
Um
1. that's stupid. (hey i cant kick my heroes!)
2. Oi i didnt invite you (vote to kick *playername*) Hey playername! Oh he's afk,
3. /notsigned
Go have a cry
Um
1. that's stupid. (hey i cant kick my heroes!)
2. Oi i didnt invite you (vote to kick *playername*) Hey playername! Oh he's afk,
3. /notsigned
Go have a cry
-Lotus-
/signed
IF this would also allow us to kick the party leader.
IF this would also allow us to kick the party leader.
Kook~NBK~
/not signed with a cherry on top!
I'm not a fan of egotistical party leaders who "insta-kicks" people because either a party member has a crap build or a good build that the party leader can't comprehend (many people can't tell the difference). BUT, if someone who joins a party shows themselves to be a jerk or an idiot (who won't listen to suggestions to improve their bar), the party leader should maintain the ability to kick him/her/them.
I could give a bunch of examples of player behavior that would warrant them being kicked from the party (AB leechers, for one), but I don't see the need, since most people here already know them and many more!
I'm not a fan of egotistical party leaders who "insta-kicks" people because either a party member has a crap build or a good build that the party leader can't comprehend (many people can't tell the difference). BUT, if someone who joins a party shows themselves to be a jerk or an idiot (who won't listen to suggestions to improve their bar), the party leader should maintain the ability to kick him/her/them.
I could give a bunch of examples of player behavior that would warrant them being kicked from the party (AB leechers, for one), but I don't see the need, since most people here already know them and many more!
RedStar
/notsigned.
It will be a problem when trading, inviting the wrong person.
It will be a problem when trading, inviting the wrong person.
Aka Devilince
/not signed
I'am sorry but that notion is a bit silly, if you got kicked from a team, sorry, they just did'nt want you. So don't cry over a bloody function in a game please, and about the guild leader only being able to kick, yea that would cause alot of problems. Like say if a fight broke out between members in your guild, while you are not on, you have a risk of losing more members from a stupid little scuffle. You put trust in your officiers, that is why you must choose wisely and not all willy nilly. All I can say this thread was a waste of time for alot, leave the kick function be and stop being cry babies about a damn game.
I'am sorry but that notion is a bit silly, if you got kicked from a team, sorry, they just did'nt want you. So don't cry over a bloody function in a game please, and about the guild leader only being able to kick, yea that would cause alot of problems. Like say if a fight broke out between members in your guild, while you are not on, you have a risk of losing more members from a stupid little scuffle. You put trust in your officiers, that is why you must choose wisely and not all willy nilly. All I can say this thread was a waste of time for alot, leave the kick function be and stop being cry babies about a damn game.
Stc95
A better idea would be a system to kick the leader. You know.. when your party leader is either afk/stupid... mainly for afk, a 5 out of 8 majority vote would be able to kick him. Certainly not what the OP said.. that's just silly.
Trax Reborn
first of all i just read the OP, but i know how i respond when being the party leader. if the 'noob' in question needs a build change, i ask them to change it. occasionally i encounter the 'omg i can't change my awesome build that worked once!' kind of person. when this happens i just kick b/c they aren't willing to help the team with that attitude. if they are willing to change(sometimes they dont have the skills unlocked) then ill keep em. I take players that are willing to help.
Nessar
Hell to the naw! Bad idea is bad ><
When trading I want to do it quick and fast, not stand around and have a tea party >O
And sorry you get kicked from parties, but if you dont have what they want, you're gone
/notsigned
When trading I want to do it quick and fast, not stand around and have a tea party >O
And sorry you get kicked from parties, but if you dont have what they want, you're gone
/notsigned
Tearz1993
Don't see any reasoning behind this. It's like saying "I wish there was a vote to delete scammer's accounts" because you weren't smart enough to look carefully at the trade window.
/notsigned.
/notsigned.
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by Stc95
A better idea would be a system to kick the leader. You know.. when your party leader is either afk/stupid... mainly for afk, a 5 out of 8 majority vote would be able to kick him. Certainly not what the OP said.. that's just silly.
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Woop Shotty
Absolutely not. I don't think anyone putting a party together wants to wait for the AFK "bio" guy to get back to his computer to be the last veto. You shouldn't end up being stuck with someone or all leaving and reforming a group in order to work around a terrible system that favors politeness over all else.
Anyone who has a problem with party leaders kicking them, they should try to get better at the game or form their own party.
/NOTsigned
Anyone who has a problem with party leaders kicking them, they should try to get better at the game or form their own party.
/NOTsigned
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
If the leader couldn't kick somebody, then they'd just leave the group and reform a new one w/o the "kicked" person, resulting in the same thing but wasting a lot more time.
If the leader couldn't kick somebody, then they'd just leave the group and reform a new one w/o the "kicked" person, resulting in the same thing but wasting a lot more time.
DarkEnzanArikado
Lmao, best trend I have seen today. Remove kicking, what are you high?
/notsigned
/notsigned
Brimstonez
This would cause mass problems, in the way of trading, and reordering teams.
/not signed
/not signed
Zahr Dalsk
Guys, come on, sign this idea, it will allow for absolute hilarity ingame.
-Lotus-
did any of you read the OP? most of you obviously didnt. its not for a compleat removal of the kick function. its a rework to a vote-kick. obviously you dont need 7/8 votes to kick someone. thats stupid. the idea would have to be refined, but some of you are simply not thinking or reading at all.
if you cant be bothered to read the OP why the hell are giving your opinions, which dont even make sense...
if you cant be bothered to read the OP why the hell are giving your opinions, which dont even make sense...
Nian
Except in GW most people are so out of it they wouldn't understand they have to do something like that. PuG's are usually there just for the "ride". They don't understand why and when they have to do something, listen to teammets, not aggro something, ignore some mobs, /resign etc. because they have no idea what they are even doing and what's good for them. I have seen many team leaders not kicking a warrior with a mesmer bar or whatever because they have no idea it's bad for them including most of the team usually. GW is too fast paced for thought.
This is why we have "leave" button.
This is why we have "leave" button.
upier
How many times did other party members leave the party you were just kicked out of and join you in making a new party?
My guess is that that's how many times they actually care and that's how many times a majority vote would be beneficial.
I pretty much don't remember a single time that happened.
And that is why /respect mah kicking powerz111111!!1!!!1
Pew pew pew!
My guess is that that's how many times they actually care and that's how many times a majority vote would be beneficial.
I pretty much don't remember a single time that happened.
And that is why /respect mah kicking powerz111111!!1!!!1
Pew pew pew!
Cebe
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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord
Alright, I have been thinking... the kick function has been more negative than positive. In PUGs they generally start terrible arguments of "u noob yd u kick me" and "OMG noob build KICK!!!!". My way around this is veto, like they have in Halo, where most people need to agree that person needs to be kicked. After a person has been vetoed, they will be given 5-10 seconds before being formally booted (this gives them a chance to leave themselves).
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There should be a greater understanding of PuG etiquette generally, but to suggest removing a feature which is required for a whole plethora of situations is simply rediculous and not well considered.
It's PuG members who fail to help each other better their builds and succeed at the game, but that can't be "fixed" with an update. Removing the Kick option is simply not viable.
I'm locking this thread for the simple reason that the idea itself is ludicrous, and the quality of discussion it has generated so far is less than acceptable.
/Locked.