Fast D/W HM Raptor farming + W/D HM (pages 2+)

dark_slayer

dark_slayer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

We Still Got It [MOJO] Leader

Thanks for the build.
I think i figured out how to kill them every time.
Heres what i run.
[build prof=Dervish/Warrior][Avatar of Balthazar][Veil of Thorns][Sand Shards][Armor of Sanctity]["To the Limit!"]["By Ural's Hammer!"][Wary Stance][Whirlwind Attack][/build]

Use Armor of Sanctity's recharge as a timer
The second it recharges use "To the Limit!" "By Ural's Hammer!" Wary Stance
Then auto attack 1 time (So you do a little damage to make sure they die)
Then Whirlwind Attack


GG all DEAD

btw ty ty ty for this build

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Wouldn't there be an issue with bombing everything at once? I thought that mob deaths have the same drop rates as individual deaths, so suddenly the ~25 monsters you kill are dropping what you might see from 1-3 monsters.

Probably a good thing to use still during weekends with special item drops, but it doesn't look like much will be earned otherwise.

Popcorn Devil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Australia

[CLK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Wouldn't there be an issue with bombing everything at once? I thought that mob deaths have the same drop rates as individual deaths, so suddenly the ~25 monsters you kill are dropping what you might see from 1-3 monsters.

Probably a good thing to use still during weekends with special item drops, but it doesn't look like much will be earned otherwise. Golds and such aren't affected.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

Heres a working warrior build thats pretty consistant.



takes <1min as well.

enjoy

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by R Langdon
Heres a working warrior build thats pretty consistant.

takes <1min as well.

enjoy I can't get this to work. The raptors usually have a bit of health left over and I get shredded. What attributes were you using?

xxx wraith xxx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

The netherlands

N/

how about:
12 earth prayers
14 strenght
4 tactics (3+1)

Sand Shards
Dolyak Signet
rage of the notouka [e]
whirlwind attack
warry stance
bonettis defence
sprint
Bye Uralls hammer

usage: sprint to cave, put up sand shards, pull all raptors->dolyaks signet,rage of the ntouka, bonettis for energy, when @ 10e-> warry stance+whirlwind attack...should kill them all. if you also have By Uralls hammer then use it just b4 Bonettis defence

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Wouldn't there be an issue with bombing everything at once? I thought that mob deaths have the same drop rates as individual deaths, so suddenly the ~25 monsters you kill are dropping what you might see from 1-3 monsters.

Probably a good thing to use still during weekends with special item drops, but it doesn't look like much will be earned otherwise. Tbh I think Shayne is just determined to think poorly of this build =/

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
I can't get this to work. The raptors usually have a bit of health left over and I get shredded. What attributes were you using? 15 tactics
12 earth
rest in strength.

1. Run to cave
2. Thrown up enchant
3. Aggro using defensive stance
4. find spot against wall.
5. throw up dolyak... defensive stance should start blinking now
6. Thorw up gladiators defensive
7. by urals hammer -> to the limit -> whirling attack.

It is possible that the raptors hit thru your stance and interrup whirling tho.

royal mercenary

royal mercenary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

Me/Rt

the warrior variant? can it kill rekoff ?

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by royal mercenary
the warrior variant? can it kill rekoff ? If the dervish version can't I doubt it.

mugen

mugen

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

well i havent finished gwen yet, i have no pve skill

what do you think of this for exemple
[build=OgikIep5Kzaj7182tXvYMvJ7l/C]

it works

EDIT :heum, oups didnt see "hard mode"

Scarn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

You shouldn't need to have completed GWEN to recieve the necessary PvE skills.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

http://www.mediafire.com/?vqghmvzjf9e

Check out my vid guys W/D with scythe

Nechtan Thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/

I just wanted to wrap up some odds and ends.

First, I looked into the profitability of the build and found that 6k-7k per hour is about what you can expect to get. Each run will only yield 0-4 drops, but you can do almost 50 runs in 60 minutes. Here's what I got from one hour of farming recently.



Don't get too excited about the Elemental Sword, those are freak drops; besides, it was req. 12. Anyway, all told it added up to 6,999gp at the merchant. If you sell the unidentified golds you can probably double or triple that number (what's the going rate, 5 for 7k?) Also, as noted previously, the profitability should increase on special drop weekends.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_slayer
Use Armor of Sanctity's recharge as a timer
The second it recharges use "To the Limit!" "By Ural's Hammer!" Wary Stance
Then auto attack 1 time (So you do a little damage to make sure they die)
Then Whirlwind Attack Thanks. Some good advice here, especially the bit about using Armor of Sanctity for a timer. When I get around to revising the original post, I'm going to add this to it (you'll be credited, of course).

I'm not entirely sold on "To the Limit!", however, although it's no worse than Mystic Sandstorm to be sure. I find that the number of times that the run fails because Whirlwind Attack doesn't charge is basically the same as the number of times the run fails because the spike didn't hit hard enough. So, it's a question of "which do you hate more?" for me. I'm looking to try Light of Deldrimor in that spot, because it affects a larger area than Mystic Sandstorm.

@dont feel no pain: Nice job, that looks like the build all the Warrior types have been looking for. The attributes are 12 in Earth Prayers, 12+ in Strength, and the rest in Tactics, I assume?

Also, thanks to everyone who has worked on converting this build for W/D.

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

W/Me

how many runs was that nechtan? nice loot gab bag there. so far doin that run ive managed 4 ele swords. oh plus a handful of saurian scythes. other than that its just alot of nickel and dime loot. as stated you can pile up roughly 7k an hour. more if you go Unid, and salvage the correct drops.




Cronk


BTW very nice build. its pretty much turd proff.

Nechtan Thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CronkTheImpaler
how many runs was that nechtan? nice loot grab bag there. That was about 47 runs, give or take. I didn't keep track, but I checked my Asuran points before and after and worked backwards from there. I felt like I was running a little bit lucky, but I did another hour's worth of runs and made 6,881gp with the same number of gold drops. That's not to say that 7k/hr is some astronomical number, mind you, but I wanted to get a number out there so people would know what to expect.

cyvil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

What is going on when I am doing know damage. The enchants seem to be up, but I get all zeros.

007wood

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Where you live

By Virtue Of Power

Mo/Me

Does Ebon Battle Standard of Honor works? If so woohoo...

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

I tried running it to boost my SS damage, didn't work.

Popcorn Devil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Australia

[CLK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 007wood
Does Ebon Battle Standard of Honor works? If so woohoo... I think you would get interupted.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mugen
well i havent finished gwen yet, i have no pve skill

what do you think of this for exemple
[build=OgikIep5Kzaj7182tXvYMvJ7l/C]

it works

EDIT :heum, oups didnt see "hard mode" you don't need to have finished gwen in order to get [[whirlwind atta]. it's a sunspear skill. pop on over to kamadan or the sunspear great hall and get it from the hero skill trainer. and the others can be gotten before completing gwen, although you most likely won't have a very high affiliation rank.

Sungas

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2008

Could someone post a workable War/derv build that does not rely a bit on luck on this would be great. Just something a bit more solid. Thanks for the work yall put into this.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

There was one posted just a bit before. The Defy Pain one.

Sungas

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ok then i must be doing something wrong maybe you could post where attribute points are because i am having problems when i do the last attack with whirlwind. I target just before i hit weary stance then hit whirlwind and sometimes they all go down and sometimes they scatter. It seems to be a little bit of luck maybe someone could explain the run and build a bit better.
Thanks again for your time.

HariTec

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/Mo

Ummm - gotta admit I havent tried this but in the warrior variant couldnt you remove protectors strike and add in something like Radiation Field or Aura of Thorns (is that the derv one that makes them all bleed?). Basically, I am thinking of the people who are saying that they get the raptors to low health then they scatter - even if they scatter the degen may finish them off for you. Awesome sounding build - I may just try this

Nechtan Thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007wood
Does Ebon Battle Standard of Honor works? If so woohoo...
No such luck. I think that Ebon Battle Standard of Honor only enhances regular damage, i.e. not armor-ignoring damage.

Also, just so no one else wastes any time trying it, you won't get Sand Shards to trigger from Clumsiness or Counter Blow. Interruption of an attack apparently doesn't imply failure to hit.

Quote: Originally Posted by cyvil What is going on when I am doing no damage? The enchants seem to be up, but I get all zeros. I'm not too sure. Assuming you're doing any damage at all, you should be doing -5's at a minimum. Maybe the 0's you're seeing are the damage they are inflicting on you? Anyway, I'll recommend a couple of things to check:
Make sure Sand Shards is up. No Sand Shards, no damage.
Make sure your Earth Prayers are set to 16 (or 12 if you are W/D). You need every bit of damage.
Make sure you are using a scythe. Sand Shards won't trigger unless you are using a scythe (it used too, but that was apparently pretty broken).
Make sure you are attacking. The Raptor's Disrupting Stab will interrupt any action you undertake, including simple attacks. You generally have to have Wary Stance up to get an attack off with certainty.
Make sure you are missing. Again, Sand Shards doesn't trigger when you actually hit something so using an unblockable attack, for example, defeats the purpose of the build.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sungas
Ok then i must be doing something wrong maybe you could post where attribute points are because i am having problems when i do the last attack with whirlwind. I target just before i hit weary stance then hit whirlwind and sometimes they all go down and sometimes they scatter. You have to max out your Earth Prayers, for sure. Also, it can't hurt to get your Sunspear rank as high as possible.

As far as the scattering, you want to make sure you are killing them in two blows -- Eternal Aura, and then the Sand Shards spike. Don't attack in between. Also, make sure you aggro as many Raptors as possible and try to delay a bit longer before you hit Whirlwind Attack in order to give the Raptors more time to get their Critical Defenses up.

Lastly, you can always throw in "By Ural's Hammer!" at the open slot. You'll probably want to hit it just before the second Wary Stance. That should lock it.

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

wild strike + disrupting stab = gg

you need about 50 energy to get all skills active on a warrior. this is worthless.

cyvil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_slayer View Post
Thanks for the build.
I think i figured out how to kill them every time.
Heres what i run.
[build prof=Dervish/Warrior][Avatar of Balthazar][Veil of Thorns][Sand Shards][Armor of Sanctity]["To the Limit!"]["By Ural's Hammer!"][Wary Stance][Whirlwind Attack][/build]

Use Armor of Sanctity's recharge as a timer
The second it recharges use "To the Limit!" "By Ural's Hammer!" Wary Stance
Then auto attack 1 time (So you do a little damage to make sure they die)
Then Whirlwind Attack


GG all DEAD

btw ty ty ty for this build This solved my problem, evidently I was not getting enough adrenaline in time.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Don't forget to put your Asura title up to get +5-15 max energy aswell. You shouldn't need much more than that for a Warrior farm.

0siris

0siris

Riding the Gravy Train

Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

W/

First time I'm trying this with a warrior and I'm having a bit of a hard time.

My attributes are 15 Str, 12 Earth, 5 Tactics, around 475 health, no energy problems.

I get to the cave, pre cast sand shards, agro all the raptors then: Dolyak>Wary Stance>Eternal Aura>Defy Pain

wait until wary stance recharges, hit it - and whirlwind attack as soon as its charged.

The problem is that most of the time none of the raptors die! I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I have max sunspear title.

the scythe mods shouldn't matter right? save for maybe an enchanting mod to keep sand shards up longer.

any help is much appreciated

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Try hitting them once normally to do some damage, then Sand Shards should provide enough damage to kill them. Other than that, theres that Deldrimor skill that boosts damage by 25%, can't remember what it's called; it'll get you more damage out of Eternal Aura, it might be enough depending on what your SS rank is.

0siris

0siris

Riding the Gravy Train

Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

W/

alright I figured it out...when you get them all aggroed you have to wait a sec for them to all actually be around you before you hit Eternal Aura.

It's kind of a panicky moment because your health drops fast without Defy Pain. Just took some practice and I got the timing down just right

Here's the attributes I use

11+3+1 Strength
12 Earth
5 Tactics

Thanks for the build!

El Do

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Netherlands

[DDB] Dutch Doom Brigade

W/Mo

It works ty

Timoliquid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2008

hey i think this is a good build to farm the raptors very fast and effective but im wondering would this work for a survivor and do u really need By Urals hammer??