I'm almost at the goal I set for my Paragon. Once I reach that goal, I decided to move onto another character. The question is which? I have both a Mesmer and Assassin that are set up for PvE. But I cannot decide who to main.
Assassin has the versatility in weapons, shadow form, SY, and a great usage of PvE skills. But the mesmer has CoP, VoR, even better usage of PvE skills, and many gimmicky fun builds.
In terms of general usefulness to the team, farming, running, and fun, what would you recommend me?
Assassin or Mesmer?
Lishy
Cookies Loves You
sins there needed everywhere mesmers are and they can solo, opposed to the few mesmers can solo with a cheap 55 build most of the time
Tyla
In terms of usefulness, I'd go with the Assassin. Reason? Moebius / Death Blossom owns face.
Any profession can run CoP. If you like the shutdown style of the Mesmer though, go with that though.
Any profession can run CoP. If you like the shutdown style of the Mesmer though, go with that though.
faraaz
I say Assassin...I have both a Mesmer and a Sin, and between the two, my Sin gets way more play time than the Mesmer, although both of them are leet pwnz0r. 
wetsparks
since you are used to owning pve with your paragon I'm sure you could easily make the switch to mesmer which owns pve also. domination magic and interrupts and casters will tremble in fear when they see you coming. your used to high armor with a paragon and with assassin's being front line and low armor you might have some trouble, and if your combo gets interrupted your screwed.
JDRyder
I say mesmer, they are more fun to play imo and VoR+backfire builds > pve atm
I dont like playing sin any more, after you play it for a few mins it gets old hitting c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4 etc
I dont like playing sin any more, after you play it for a few mins it gets old hitting c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4 etc
ZeAliX
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Originally Posted by JDRyder
I say mesmer, they are more fun to play imo and VoR+backfire builds > pve atm
I dont like playing sin any more, after you play it for a few mins it gets old hitting c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4 etc Maybe try another build? And besides, aren't most build constructed like that? that you should press buttons to use skills?
Anyway.. to the topic, I got sin as main and decided to roll mesmer as my secondary, but after playing a while with my mesmer I didn't find it fun at all because of the lack of dmg (bet I gonna be flamed for this one, but seriously..) and the problem with "tanking" or trying to bodyblock (to make any killing faster) with your mesmer. Anyway, you should be able to decide quite easily if you just play em equally for a while
I dont like playing sin any more, after you play it for a few mins it gets old hitting c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4 etc Maybe try another build? And besides, aren't most build constructed like that? that you should press buttons to use skills?
Anyway.. to the topic, I got sin as main and decided to roll mesmer as my secondary, but after playing a while with my mesmer I didn't find it fun at all because of the lack of dmg (bet I gonna be flamed for this one, but seriously..) and the problem with "tanking" or trying to bodyblock (to make any killing faster) with your mesmer. Anyway, you should be able to decide quite easily if you just play em equally for a while
troyismyname
Try each for yourself. Decide which one you like.
Washi
Depends what you wanna do. If you want to farm, go Assassin. If you want to play the game go Mesmer.
@ZeAliX.... lack of dmg? Maybe you need to change the build? Besides you need to change your mindset, tank&spank doesnt make killing faster, it slows it down. To sum it up, you are doing it wrong.
@ZeAliX.... lack of dmg? Maybe you need to change the build? Besides you need to change your mindset, tank&spank doesnt make killing faster, it slows it down. To sum it up, you are doing it wrong.
-Lotus-
Assassin. there is almost no benifit to a mesmer primary in PvE. anything a mesmer can do well is either useless (in PvE) or a N/Me can do it better.
sad but true... they should really buff fast casting.
sad but true... they should really buff fast casting.
upier
The assassin does everything the mesmer does and does it better - but I love the mesmer more.
So I'll be playing the mesmer.
So I'll be playing the mesmer.
Moloch Vein
Agree with all/most of the above.
You want a pve hexer, you roll a necro.
Actually, roll a necro.
You want a pve hexer, you roll a necro.
Actually, roll a necro.
Cebe
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The assassin does everything the mesmer does and does it better - but I love the mesmer more.
So I'll be playing the mesmer. I'm signing this.
For aesthetics, Mesmer wins hands down.
The Moebius Blossom Assassin builds are formidable and high-damage in PvE, but frankly, after I ran it two or three times it got so boring and samey.
At the end of the day - it's not anyone's decision but your own...
So I'll be playing the mesmer. I'm signing this.
For aesthetics, Mesmer wins hands down.
The Moebius Blossom Assassin builds are formidable and high-damage in PvE, but frankly, after I ran it two or three times it got so boring and samey.
At the end of the day - it's not anyone's decision but your own...
ALF71BE
Mesmers have cool armor, sins have cool damage...
I'd go for the mesmer based on that.
I'd go for the mesmer based on that.
Avarre
Mes for style.
Sin for more viability.
In the end neither choice is going to stop you from finishing PvE (unless you intend to rely on PUGs) so go with what suits your playstyle and seems cooler. If you do intend to rely on PUGs, Sin might be the better choice.
Give both a try, see what fits better and is more fun.
Sin for more viability.
In the end neither choice is going to stop you from finishing PvE (unless you intend to rely on PUGs) so go with what suits your playstyle and seems cooler. If you do intend to rely on PUGs, Sin might be the better choice.
Give both a try, see what fits better and is more fun.
Xx Citrus Spike Xx
Go mesmer, They make hardmode easy. Plus at the mo , everyone and their dog is either a sin or ranger, plus their is a lack of mesmers in the game, but like a few peeps have said already, the choice is yours.
Lishy
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Originally Posted by troyismyname
Try each for yourself. Decide which one you like.
I already did. This is about maining.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer?
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer?
Moloch Vein
They can do more damage, they have better energy management, they have better armor, they can farm better, but everyone will think you're a retard.
Cathode_Reborn
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
I already did. This is about maining.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer? A mesmer without PvE skills can't really aggressively attack and do damage - most of their skills are conditional, or do damage over time. As a Domination mesmer, you'll often find yourself waiting for your enemy to do somethin in order for you to do damage. Besides Clumsiness/Wandering Eye, Illusion magic is very weak in PvE.
One is a caster based on shutdown. The other is a phys class who's role is pure damage. If you make a mes, be prepared to get some PvE skills you wanna dish out more unconditional damage.
Sins have the highest DPS out of all classes in the game (talkin PvE of course). They don't need PvE skills to do that. Using PvE skills only makes them even better. Combined with Asuran Scan, an MS/DB Sin can do ridiculous amounts of damage.
Now that I've brought up MS/DB, keep this in mind: If you're doing general PvE and you always wanna run what's most effective, you'll have pretty much no variety in builds since you'll find yourself running a typical MS/DB bar most of the time. For some it can be dull, but others enjoy the high damage they do.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer? A mesmer without PvE skills can't really aggressively attack and do damage - most of their skills are conditional, or do damage over time. As a Domination mesmer, you'll often find yourself waiting for your enemy to do somethin in order for you to do damage. Besides Clumsiness/Wandering Eye, Illusion magic is very weak in PvE.
One is a caster based on shutdown. The other is a phys class who's role is pure damage. If you make a mes, be prepared to get some PvE skills you wanna dish out more unconditional damage.
Sins have the highest DPS out of all classes in the game (talkin PvE of course). They don't need PvE skills to do that. Using PvE skills only makes them even better. Combined with Asuran Scan, an MS/DB Sin can do ridiculous amounts of damage.
Now that I've brought up MS/DB, keep this in mind: If you're doing general PvE and you always wanna run what's most effective, you'll have pretty much no variety in builds since you'll find yourself running a typical MS/DB bar most of the time. For some it can be dull, but others enjoy the high damage they do.
Zahr Dalsk
Assassin. More fun, much more powerful. Everything dies, quickly.
upier
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
I already did. This is about maining.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer? The assassin is a physical dude that can not only emulate all other physicals (because of his nice primary) BUT can also emulate all offensive casters (because of AP being built into the class).
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer? The assassin is a physical dude that can not only emulate all other physicals (because of his nice primary) BUT can also emulate all offensive casters (because of AP being built into the class).
JDRyder
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
I already did. This is about maining.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer? VoR + backfire = lololol
as for mesmers conditional damage, its not like they are not going to be using any skills or w/e makes it conditional. I about pissed myself form laughing so hard the other day cause i put VoR and Backfire on a necro with bitter chill and he blew himself up XD.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer? VoR + backfire = lololol
as for mesmers conditional damage, its not like they are not going to be using any skills or w/e makes it conditional. I about pissed myself form laughing so hard the other day cause i put VoR and Backfire on a necro with bitter chill and he blew himself up XD.
squiros
so primary assassins can farm titles and items better. sins can acheive some of the highest dps in the game. they can also switch to partywide defenses with SY. they're also great runners for those missions that just aren't worth it. permasins are good aggro controllers as well as amazing caster shutdown - esp against pve spikers. sins make decent ursanways due to criticals. it can go ranged physical with critical barrage. sins have builds for certain tricky areas - ie shiro and the clubbing bear quests.
mesmers do not suffer from anorexia, however, the way the assassins do. the mesmer appearances are better fed than the bulemic sin counterpart, but. . . other than aesthetics, mesmers don't have many abilities that are exclusive to the class. furthermore, even with reflexes that borderline psychic, the AI can do it better.
mesmers do not suffer from anorexia, however, the way the assassins do. the mesmer appearances are better fed than the bulemic sin counterpart, but. . . other than aesthetics, mesmers don't have many abilities that are exclusive to the class. furthermore, even with reflexes that borderline psychic, the AI can do it better.
Bobby2
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...is why you should choose Assassin
...is why you should choose Assassin