Villain mission pack: their side of the story

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

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i alredy signed on this idea.


To A-Net: this is what is called a mandate of the people.




Cronk

doudou_steve

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

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I think i would prefer this:

Palawa joko's story: Makes you discover How palawa became an undead.
The lich: Discover how/why the vizier destroyed Orr
Shiro: Well...lets just put us in him while he's killing hundred of guards.
Dagnar Stonepate's story: Dscover why or how the chief and creator of the stone summit, went to that position. (as well of a bonus mission which is the part we need to kill rurik, i'm sure everyone will enjoy)

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

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Originally Posted by doudou_steve
Dagnar Stonepate's story: Dscover why or how the chief and creator of the stone summit, went to that position. (as well of a bonus mission which is the part we need to kill rurik, i'm sure everyone will enjoy)
Great idea! For a bit there he was the epitome of evil, and I was looking forward to a showdown with him. Yet we ended up killing him almost as an afterthought, since our minds were on a greater battle at that time and he was just a minor obstacle between us and the Mursaat. We didn't even get to gloat. I would love to play "The Rise of the Stone Summit".

AlexEternal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

South of England.

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If Anet ever read any of these, just because a player thought of it before you doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

enxa

enxa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

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It would take too much effort, to create something that fails just as much as BMP missions did.

Better work on the remaining realms of the gods (one, at least), or adding a few new PvP arenas, or something other out of the million good suggestions made here.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe
What a stupid thing to say.
Defendin evil is evil. Anyone that sides or defends evil, even in fiction, is evil. And one thing we all learn through time is that you can't believe what evil says. So there is no point in saying that. It's like pointing to the sun and saying "You can't shine on me!".

There are ONLY TWO ways I would agree with something like this:
- 1 Stories of those people before becoming evil or related to evil. Like the Story of D'Alessio. For example, Shiro and Khilbrom before being corrupted.
- 2 Stories of those people AFTER being defeated, repenting and stopping being evil (they can just be neutral or good, I don't care as long as they stop being evil). For example, Khilbrom in the Underworld, passing through some tests and calamities in order to cleanse his soul from Abaddon's taint.

Dru Stratas

Dru Stratas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

England.

Colloidal Gold [Purp] - Leader

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Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
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It would take too much effort, to create something that fails just as much as BMP missions did.

Better work on the remaining realms of the gods (one, at least), or adding a few new PvP arenas, or something other out of the million good suggestions made here.
The only point I disagree with is the BMP missions failing, they were fun, and thats the whole point of a game.
I would love a realm of one of the remaining gods to be created, like you said, but I still think this extra "BMP" would be great fun.

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Us playing the heroes in guild wars? not to Spoil it to you, but
If one looks at the result of our heroes in guild wars -they would be remembered as champions of darkness, according to guildwars 2

prophesis -unleashed the titans, caused civil war in kryta, left ruriks sword in a vulcano, left staff of orr in the same volcano. -both artifacts of great importance
Factions - participated in civil war of cantha -didnt save Master Togu and the emperors turned later on
Nightfall -caused civil war - freed pawla joko and thus made the sunspears evil.
Gwen - helped the charr unite - didnt destroy the true great destroyer when had the chance (that dragon statue)

X3R0

X3R0

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

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Would be great to be the villian. Wouldn't mind playing as a mursaat with spectral agony at full power. "Feel the power of the Dark Side"

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

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RE: ROUPE


no-one is asking to change the history or the outcome of GW. were just simply saying it would be fun to play as the villains. no more no less. there are endless ways to play as the villains without wrecking the lore.



Cronk

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Re:Cronk
I didnt think it was about changing the GW history. I was just remarking that our gullible GW heroes wouldnt be good heroes in eyes of the GW2 people. So in a sense we already have played villains.

I like new content, so im all for the idea of more stories to play.

Prophesies
I like to see more of the Verata story, playing as him would also be nice
though i also enjoy the idea of playing charr saccing ascalon
Factions
Stonesummit and the dredge would be intresting, or the Jade Brotherhood

Nightfall
the Warmarshal would be nice to play

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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With all the ideas flying around, I think we'll need more then one BMP (or one that's twice/triple the size, and not ALL evil guys)

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe
Hmmm well I don't know about "all evil mission pack" but another mission pack might be cool I suggest following 4:

"Shiro during Jade Wind"
"Khilbron during Charr invasion in Orr"
"Adelbern (Or Devona's father, Mordakai) during the Guild Wars"
"Jadoth during his sailing trip before he became a margonite"

Ok I wanted the last one to be a NF one but couldn'treally figure one out :P
Jadoth IS from Nigthfall, after all, he serves Abbadon!
I was about to say to add Jadoth's story, he fought many forgotten after all.
Shiro killed the emperor, a whole kurzick and luxon battalion and fought at equal-foot against the luxon and the kurzick champions (its like a player fighting Argo and Lukas at the same time) and only lost because he was stabbed in the back


One more thing:
MithranArkanere,
Good and bad is relative, there aint such a thing as "evil must be destroyed at all costs", you have been watching too many cartoons.
The "good" is determined by those who win, and the losers, are the "bad" guys, allways. Im sure that if the Margonites could tell a story, they would call the humans the bad guys, since we destroyed their god and slaughtered many margonites in the name of our gods. Shiro is a good example of it, is he a bad guy because he was tricked? Was Abbadon a bad guy for not agreeing with the other gods? Is Grenth a bad guy for overthroning Dhuum? Are the Charr bad for wanting their lands back? Are the humans good for invadint eh charr territory?
There aint such a thing as good and bad, there are winners and losers.
The whole world spins around interest.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos Flame Reaper
prophechies: a charr general during the searing
Factions: shiro during the day of the jade wind
Nightfall:Palawa Joko during the scorge of vabbi
Eye of the North:umm a destroyer?
Prophecies: Bonfazz Burntfur
Factions: Exactly what you said.
Nightfall: General Bayel and/or The Hunger.
EotN: Disc of Chaos

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

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well TBH i wouldnt mind loosing if the twist/animation just looks awesome. Sorta like pala jowaka's end.

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

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Sounds fun!

Prophecies: Vatlaaw Doomtooth on his reconnaissance mission in Presearing, or a Mursaat leader trying to contain the Titans before settling on the Bloodstone solution.

Factions: Shiro's story has been pretty thoroughly told. Why not play as Mungri Magicbox, the unstoppable Dredge war machine? Doubtless he was a key figure in the daring escape from Sorrow's Furnace. One of his adventures in the brave new world of Echovald would be a superb bonus mission.

Nightfall: The battle of the Margonites in the Crystal Desert, back when it was an ocean. Show us how Abaddon created the Lavender Brigade!

Eye of the North: Frostmaw the Kinslayer. Nowadays she reigns over a vast warren packed to the rafters with her bilious spawn, but what did she have to do to ensconce herself in such a kingdom?

Mangione

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

/signed

This is a nice idea.
If sold like the BMP, ArenaNet might gain some money before the release of GW2.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
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It would take too much effort, to create something that fails just as much as BMP missions did.
The BMP missions didn't fail, they just didn't provide the farmers with new grinding-grounds.

Sword Hammer Axe

Sword Hammer Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Look up.

Kurzick Conflagration Unit [KCU].

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregslot
Jadoth IS from Nigthfall, after all, he serves Abbadon!
I was about to say to add Jadoth's story, he fought many forgotten after all.
Shiro killed the emperor, a whole kurzick and luxon battalion and fought at equal-foot against the luxon and the kurzick champions (its like a player fighting Argo and Lukas at the same time) and only lost because he was stabbed in the back
Yeah I know Jadoth is from NF but I didn't think it was a very good idea for a mission pack since it's kind of hard to do a guildwars battle on a ship :P

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

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I would love this if they didn't make it a fail. I reallllly want to play as a Margonite tbh

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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Yay! I wasn't too big on the BMP but I'd love to play as the villain. It would be a change of pace, being the bad guy instead of the good guy (like City of Heroes/Villains). I'd love to be able to play as Shiro. I would make an entire video just of him. hahahahaha Great idea!

Don Doggy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Its nice to be bad once in a while im sick of saving the world.

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

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as long as i get to kill stuff, sure

Stormbringer

Stormbringer

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos Flame Reaper
Factions: shiro during the day of the jade wind
YESSSSSSS YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS PLEASE!!!
Make us understand why in the world dos one of the best warriors of the empire become evil and kills the emperor just because some old hag told him "Bewaaaaaaarrrreee!" "The little green dragon is at your doorstep!" "Hiiiim or youuuuuuu".

Even George Lucas made Anakin's turn to the darkside a bit more realistic (wahaaaayyyy to quick but still!).

Shiro's story is one of the most undevelopped ones in the game. Fix it.
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p.s ppl post suggestions for mission pack stories for missions [no big creatures such as orr the dragon.]
See what happened during the destruction of Orr, see what part Vizier Khabron (or how you spell it, let's call him Jim) plays in this tragic event. Why Jim seeks the prophecies, why he needs the prophecies, why he hates tyria...

And the lore of the game speaks of ancient battles, of Balthazar, Jaroth, the chaining of Abaddon... why not actually get to see this, take part of it... if we can "live" event that happend before our arrival in Kamadan (lol, space and time distortion, tear in the fabric of the universe, blame CERN!) why not live those events aswell.

And what the hell is that small guy doing in the water in Mehtani Keys on "noob" island saying he's so important, who the hell is this guy?! near one of the big Head Statues...

Sword Hammer Axe

Sword Hammer Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Look up.

Kurzick Conflagration Unit [KCU].

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormbringer
Even George Lucas made Anakin's turn to the darkside a bit more realistic (wahaaaayyyy to quick but still!).
You can't be serious 0.0 "Anakin you are sad and therefore you will turn to the dark side." Baaah. It wasn't just some old hag it was a demon who he trusted because she was right in the early fortunes. And when he started fearing for his life he became upsessed with the thought that the emperor would kill him and therefore turned to madness. I think that one makes a bit more sense in modern psychology :P

Redhead Blaze

Redhead Blaze

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Torun, POLAND

Society of Souls [Argh]

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ooooh, being a bad guy for a change? bring it on!

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

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My favorite character Shiro Tagachi....and me being able to play HIM???

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gargytama

gargytama

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sweden

Team Of The North [EotN]

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Never thought about this, and I think it's a brilliant idea

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Calaval

Calaval

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Forever Knights

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The BMP was great fun, I'd love to play a new one!