Chrome, Internet. Internet, meet Chrome.

DarkNecrid

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03 Sep 2008 at 22:43 - 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
I use it for Guru, because it blocks the popup ads, and the others dont bother me. It loads guru far faster, and the ability to resize the text entry boxes on the fly is amazing.
This is the coolest feature ever.

snaek

snaek

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03 Sep 2008 at 22:59 - 42
does anyone else find it funny that if u search "chrome" on google's search engine...
teh browser is not in teh #1 spot? lol

Age

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03 Sep 2008 at 23:13 - 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarun
I didn't care much for the browser and I felt like Firefox is faster. Chrome simply delayed displaying the page under it was fully rendered. It's barebones which is why it's so much faster right now. After more features and such get integrated, it'll slow down. Chrome may render fast, but I think this is quite good too:



IE7 on the other hand... You literally have to hold N down to get an accurate result.
How did you get those test results?

Numa Pompilius

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03 Sep 2008 at 23:27 - 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masao
Chrome = uninstalled for not yet being convenient to use and possibility of being a form of government monitoring.
Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.

Lord Sojar

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03 Sep 2008 at 23:33 - 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.
Indeed. Google already noted that part of the EULA wasn't valid anyways.

Masao

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Join Date: Jan 2008

04 Sep 2008 at 01:10 - 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.
You're preaching to the choir. I've been invited to NSA recruitment programs for mathematics and judicial representation both.

Although there are dozens of other forms of governmental monitoring through a multitude of agencies, it doesn't mean I'm not going to try to avoid suspect ones.

No need to make a big deal about knowledge common to anyone who's cracked a Tom Clancy book.

Also, three words. Biden, Patriot, Act.

On another note Paragraph 11 was what had every legal professional worried. Now that its been taken out of the EULA, there should be no further need for concern.

Crimson Flame

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04 Sep 2008 at 01:12 - 47
It didn't have me terribly worried. Granted, I'm not a legal professional yet, but give me a year and I will be...in any case, I saw that the author retained copyright so I didn't think too much of it.

Stockholm

Stockholm

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04 Sep 2008 at 01:20 - 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.
No, not when they can get all the information they want from your ISP provider without you even knowing it.

Masao

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

04 Sep 2008 at 01:20 - 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson Flame
It didn't have me terribly worried. Granted, I'm not a legal professional yet, but give me a year and I will be...in any case, I saw that the author retained copyright so I didn't think too much of it.
It wasn't so much who had the copyright, but rather the fact that Google would be able to use any information you submitted through the browser for advertising purposes, and could distribute it as they please.

This clause is applicable to some of Google's products, such as the Wikis they own and desktop applications that they distribute, but had no place in an EULA for an open source browser.

Also, you just have to love people who vandalize wiki. I quote:

Quote:
Dennis is founder of google. He is very rich, he has a wealth of $9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999 and he love naruto very much.

He is also the richest person in the world.

YEH ! I EAT CHILDREN

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

04 Sep 2008 at 03:03 - 50
Hey guess what, you can drag tabs from any other browser that has tabs (well I've tried the latest IE, FF3, and Opera anyways) into Chrome, and it'll become a Chrome tab.

Tarun

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04 Sep 2008 at 03:38 - 51
Hey guess what. You can do that with pretty much any browser. :P

Tarun

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04 Sep 2008 at 03:40 - 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
How did you get those test results?
I clicked the button to run all tests.

Smurf Minions

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04 Sep 2008 at 17:03 - 53
Hmm, google did just use the EULA of youtube for chrome, what a dumbasses :P

DarkNecrid

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04 Sep 2008 at 17:24 - 54
btw, if anyone has weaker PCs and is having crashes, turn off the Phishing and Malware detection. It uses a lot of RAM it seems, and if you don't have a lot, it'll crash you during Flash videos/intensive games, easy.

Screensaver91

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05 Sep 2008 at 01:33 - 55
OPERA > Chrome

That is all.

Tarun

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05 Sep 2008 at 03:11 - 56
Seems most tests are saying otherwise. Been reading a lot of things where Firefox 3.1 will be faster than Chrome.

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

05 Sep 2008 at 03:18 - 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarun
Seems most tests are saying otherwise. Been reading a lot of things where Firefox 3.1 will be faster than Chrome.
Is FireFox 3.1 sandboxed and does it get rid of the linear tab model.

If you answer yes to both of these I will use it.

Tarun

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05 Sep 2008 at 04:26 - 58
Not sure about sandboxes (doubt you'd really need that, and there's probably an extension to do it), but with the tabs I have multirow tabs. (Tab Mix Plus extension).

viper11025

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05 Sep 2008 at 05:16 - 59
Ok, I'm putting my foot in on this.
Don't mind.

My Scores:

FF3- 7/10
1. Plug-ins are amazing at times.
2. Fast.
3. Not too secure, chat options are a pain to use, IRC.
4. Delicious bookmarks, are just plain awful. The automatic catagorizing GETS annoying!!

Chrome- 7.7/10
1. Faster than the others, by a few secounds. I don't really notice.
2. Not very secure, at all. (Tested, was broken into, too easily.)
3. Can't find the plugins...........I know it's in beta. Whatever....Give me more bookmark options.
4. Can't move the bookmarks I need to it.
5. That EULA.

IE8-6.5/10
1. Bookmarks sucks.
2. Plug-ins are a pain.
3. Security issues.
4. SLOOOOOOOOOW
5. Media options are really easy to use, Flash player, Veoh, Youtube, Etc.

Opera- 8.1/10
1. Pretty fast.
2. Secure, better than the others.
3. MY OPERA!!! Bookmarks, syncronize.
4. Ok, not great, plugins.
5. IRC is already usable on it.
6. Needs to be faster...........it loads the text, then images by size.

Until I can move my opera bookmarks to Chrome, and they fix that EULA, forget it. I've got over 150 Bookmarks, I don't plan on losing them.
XD

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

05 Sep 2008 at 05:48 - 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarun
Not sure about sandboxes (doubt you'd really need that, and there's probably an extension to do it), but with the tabs I have multirow tabs. (Tab Mix Plus extension).
Sandboxing provides a massive (massive) security benefit above and beyond anything FF/Opera has (yes, even with NoScript & AdBlock), yes I really do need it and not having to use a sandboxing program just to do it is an amazing benefit especially considering how much resources those can use, and multirow tabs just makes tabs have multiple rows, the linear tab model is where all the tabs run from the same process in a line ("interconnected"), so if one hangs or freezes, it breaks the rest of them and the browser crashes, which is where Chrome's separate tab model comes in handy.

I don't use Chrome for speed (although that's great too), I use it because it's infinitely more secure than FF/Opera and innovated tabs in a way that supports my quad core PC by a buttload, and it handles Javascript in an amazingly great way from a programming standpoint, and it prevents untrusted stuff from still being able to write to your PC unlike every other browser out there. If all FF3.1 is going to do is add speed, then that's great. I don't care, because it's still behind from a security standpoint.

viper11025

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05 Sep 2008 at 05:56 - 61
No browsers perfect, XD. Yet....

Riot Narita

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Join Date: Apr 2007

05 Sep 2008 at 09:30 - 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
btw, if anyone has weaker PCs and is having crashes, turn off the Phishing and Malware detection. It uses a lot of RAM it seems, and if you don't have a lot, it'll crash you during Flash videos/intensive games, easy.
DarkNecrid, you seem to rate good security very highly, and yet you posted that. People, buy more RAM. RAM is cheap. And leave your security features enabled!

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
a COMPLETELY 100% NEW way to do tabs (each in its own process)
This is NOT new, although it may offer improvements over IE7's implementation.

Actually, I don't think there is ANYTHING new in Chrome. Seems what they're trying to do is take the best bits of all browsers, and put them all together in one place. ie. Building a better mousetrap.

Anyway, it looks promising, but let's remember it's still in beta. Although it's in no position to replace Firefox yet, people shouldn't dismiss it out-of-hand. Similarly, people shouldn't be pants-dropped fanboys about it either.

Morgan Crowe

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05 Sep 2008 at 09:42 - 63
I heard google knows everything about you. Give them more possibilities to spy on you.

DarkNecrid

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05 Sep 2008 at 16:20 - 64
Quote:
DarkNecrid, you seem to rate good security very highly, and yet you posted that. People, buy more RAM. RAM is cheap. And leave your security features enabled!
To be fair, sandboxing helps immensely and prevents malware sites from doing anything, and phishing sites are generally easy to spot to the normal person. Yes, go buy more RAM, but for a weaker PC its still an option. They really need you to be able to choose one or the other. Hell, the malware thing helped me get Inde to remove an ad related to malware so.

Quote:
This is NOT new, although it may offer improvements over IE7's implementation.
Yes it is, new, to the extent of what I was talking about. IE8 has added similar functionality, and Opera has similar functionality, but neither (well IE8 might now, it's still in Beta.) take full advantage of multiple cores to the level Chrome does, and both still suffer from one tab crashing or hanging to causing all other tabs to crash.

Quote:
I heard google knows everything about you. Give them more possibilities to spy on you.
If you gave me your name, I could pay 10$ to know everything about you right now. Name, address, location, name of relatives, phone number, where you work, for how long, your car, animals, etc.

You don't need Google to spy on you, you can pretty much find info on anyone on the Internet if you have the $ and know where to look

shalimar

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Join Date: Nov 2009

20 Nov 2009 at 09:08 - 65
yes sure google Chrome is the best browser, when i first downloaded it, my internet was running at a lighting speed, i even checked my speed ( http://www.ip-details.com/internet-speed-test/ ) and it was normal too, hitherto i used firefox which chocked my browsing capabilities .
But the only one advantage with firefox is that it has more add ons, which makes things much easier

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

20 Nov 2009 at 11:15 - 66
Old thread is old

But yea I went from buggy FF to Chrome and never looked back.