Frostmaw/Vloxen HM with H/H & No Tangibles
Engage
Well, finished vanquishing EOTN with Jaga Moraine and thought to give Frostmaw a try. It went better than I thought, with the difficulty on par with NM. Once you know where the pop-ups are, and how to aggro them, it goes quite smoothly.
I am posting this because I know others are holding back from doing it, thinking it is rather difficult. In the end though, it really is not bad at all.
Well, I hope this helps a few people out there, and it would be even better if others would post some additional advice of their own.
I am posting this because I know others are holding back from doing it, thinking it is rather difficult. In the end though, it really is not bad at all.
Well, I hope this helps a few people out there, and it would be even better if others would post some additional advice of their own.
joshuarodger
very nice. gg.
how long did it take?
how long did it take?
zeth006
Nice.
10 characters.
10 characters.
_June
Another little tip for this is, it is a good idea to bring pain inverter, it totally violates the wurms, makes it a ton easier.
I think it took 20 seconds to kill boss with Pain Inverter lol
*edit* I forgot to add that I did not have maxed asuran at the time that I did this, think it was around rank 6-7.
I think it took 20 seconds to kill boss with Pain Inverter lol
*edit* I forgot to add that I did not have maxed asuran at the time that I did this, think it was around rank 6-7.
Shasgaliel
First time I did it with H/H on HM it took me 4 hours. Last time about 1 hour and 30 minutes. Actually the most important improvement for me was to take hero mesmer to deal with all those wurm spawns. Probably there are other possibilities but mesmer for me in this dungeon just did wonders. My squad (professions) was almost the same as OP, I used paragon instead of SS necro. Build of other two heroes were very similar (exactly the same MM but my mesmer did not use VoR - it was before update of VoR, now I would use it for sure) . There are also several deadly mobs which can be avoided like mobs of 10 drakes on the 2nd level (player needs to observe their patrol pattern - there is one mob of ice eles which needs to be pulled first).
Sacratus Ignis
avoid the ice drakes on floor 2 - it is faster and easier to take the stormclouds if you have spirit bond on one of your heroes for the puller.
aleaf92
No SY!?
gg nonetheless
gg nonetheless
L|S >+>+G+<+<
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Originally Posted by _June
Another little tip for this is, it is a good idea to bring pain inverter, it totally violates the wurms, makes it a ton easier.
I think it took 20 seconds to kill boss with Pain Inverter lol
*edit* I forgot to add that I did not have maxed asuran at the time that I did this, think it was around rank 6-7.
lies....pain inverter is needed a few times to kill the boss at the end and thats with max asuran
I think it took 20 seconds to kill boss with Pain Inverter lol
*edit* I forgot to add that I did not have maxed asuran at the time that I did this, think it was around rank 6-7.
lies....pain inverter is needed a few times to kill the boss at the end and thats with max asuran
payne
my setup for beating it HM no cons
HeV mes
VoR mes
jagged bones MM
hench: 2monk 1 ranger 1 mes
me barrage + warmongers = picture once uploaded:-
HeV mes
VoR mes
jagged bones MM
hench: 2monk 1 ranger 1 mes
me barrage + warmongers = picture once uploaded:-
Engage
Here's Vloxen Excavations. It wasn't that bad other than a few groups. I found Bellok's group to be among the easiest, especially with that wall right there to stick most of the group into a nice little ball.
Again, if you have any additional info. on how to do this, or where to improve, please feel free to add.
Good luck to you all. If a mod could change the title to notify users of this additional info, that would be awesome.
Again, if you have any additional info. on how to do this, or where to improve, please feel free to add.
Good luck to you all. If a mod could change the title to notify users of this additional info, that would be awesome.
payne
good job...mes build was good....
got anything for duncan HM? xD last bit for my HM book and cba to work out a strat for his dungeon ^^
got anything for duncan HM? xD last bit for my HM book and cba to work out a strat for his dungeon ^^
_June
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Originally Posted by L|S >+>+G+<+<
lies....pain inverter is needed a few times to kill the boss at the end and thats with max asuran
Must've had the hex on a number of people in my case then, I speak the truth though lol.
Kushiels_Scion
Awesome stuff, i looked at the skills for the mesmer and i am setting up the hero for it, but i ask OP, what are the atributes for your mesmer?
payne
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Originally Posted by Kushiels_Scion
Awesome stuff, i looked at the skills for the mesmer and i am setting up the hero for it, but i ask OP, what are the atributes for your mesmer?
should be able to figure that out for yourself lol
but: I ran, well on the VoR anyway - FC 10+1+1; dom 10+1; insp 11+1
that worked for me...
AND PI IS NOT NEEDED LOL....it isn't needed, frostmaw fell in about 30secs just from the hexes in my team not PI....I found it pretty worthless really...good tanking is better IMO....hex-way ftw lol....
/sign petition to add a third mes hero plz ^^
but: I ran, well on the VoR anyway - FC 10+1+1; dom 10+1; insp 11+1
that worked for me...
AND PI IS NOT NEEDED LOL....it isn't needed, frostmaw fell in about 30secs just from the hexes in my team not PI....I found it pretty worthless really...good tanking is better IMO....hex-way ftw lol....
/sign petition to add a third mes hero plz ^^
legendel
thanks for that, tried it, worked a treat
fenix
You sir, are my hero.
Note the lack of 2 people. Also, no cons. The DP on Livia and Gwen is entirely from Frostmaw and the couple of wurms that spawn with it.
Also have vanq'd 2 zones with it so far. Excellent build.
Note the lack of 2 people. Also, no cons. The DP on Livia and Gwen is entirely from Frostmaw and the couple of wurms that spawn with it.
Also have vanq'd 2 zones with it so far. Excellent build.
beserk
Pretty impressive ^^
byteme!
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Originally Posted by aleaf92
No SY!?
gg nonetheless You seem surprised. Why is that?
gg nonetheless You seem surprised. Why is that?
[Bone]
Frostmaw HM as team of 5 without consumables.
I was quite plain HB, Ogden was full prot with Divert Hexes, Olias was curses (SS) with Splinter Weapon. The warrior was balance between survival and damage... Heavy armor boost and ~50 dps. The ele was using fire. Why we were 5 was because certain people were running all over the place, messing up aggro and made our well-being to be misery instead. Eventually some had to go leave at the beginning of level 4. Suddenly it got much easier. Were down to 5 but with aggro control we did it just fine. No deaths except at the very end where we managed to place ourselves in the middle of major wurm spawn . That was a wipe. The Last boss went down without problems.
Basically the only trick with this team setup was to let the warrior do his job.
I was quite plain HB, Ogden was full prot with Divert Hexes, Olias was curses (SS) with Splinter Weapon. The warrior was balance between survival and damage... Heavy armor boost and ~50 dps. The ele was using fire. Why we were 5 was because certain people were running all over the place, messing up aggro and made our well-being to be misery instead. Eventually some had to go leave at the beginning of level 4. Suddenly it got much easier. Were down to 5 but with aggro control we did it just fine. No deaths except at the very end where we managed to place ourselves in the middle of major wurm spawn . That was a wipe. The Last boss went down without problems.
Basically the only trick with this team setup was to let the warrior do his job.
Orfas
i just finished frostmaw with these builds and they worked great ty very much for sharing them ^^
Super Igor
gj dude, wtb save yourselves though. :>
lishi
the key skill is pain inverter and carefull flagging the heros away from the npc and minion who will get raped by worm bile.
Shiing!
Out of interest, HiddenDelight, what builds did you use on your heroes? I've been trying for a while to H/H dungeons and can't get the combination right. It always ends up going tits up somewhere along the run.
Kul Rajah
Was looking for some good Heroes builds to be able to vanquish the eotn areas, tried out this heroes builds and they work like a charm. So far have done all the norn and charr areas with no problem at all, only getting dp by some annoying patrols.
Just actually gotta add that didn't had Necro heroes yet, changed them for a shouter Jora and a Avatar of Dwayna Kahmu and are working quite well. Thankfully my char is a necro so at least got SS covered .
Thanks a lot, really helped now HM is just like playing in NM
Just actually gotta add that didn't had Necro heroes yet, changed them for a shouter Jora and a Avatar of Dwayna Kahmu and are working quite well. Thankfully my char is a necro so at least got SS covered .
Thanks a lot, really helped now HM is just like playing in NM
Deadly addiction
The mesmer needs Inspired Hex instead of Remove Hex. Wurm Bile being a monster skill is not replaced when removed by Inspired, therefore it has an instant recharge; plus, it returns its' own energy cost
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Originally Posted by payne
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good job...mes build was good....
got anything for duncan HM? xD last bit for my HM book and cba to work out a strat for his dungeon ^^ One word: Panic.
got anything for duncan HM? xD last bit for my HM book and cba to work out a strat for his dungeon ^^ One word: Panic.
Snograt
Nice to know that tips from 2008 are still coming in useful...
beaztor
Yeah i didnt expect some of the tips here to work with H/H but i did frostmaw 2 days ago with the help of this thread and did it H/H in under an hour. SS/Splinter necro, AoTL/hex remover necro, Domination/hex remover mes, hench mes, ele, monk and blood nec hench. Ran though it nice and easy even though i totally forgot to add a second healer. Took my time and pulled safely, used 2 consets for lvl 3 and 4. Didint expect it to be so easy. Thanks for the tips. Got my master of the north title so now i am bored once again. Matbe go do vloxen for kicks
AndrewSX
Thread is old but neither Vloxen or Frostmaw has changed during this time....
God of Tempest
I used this for Vloxen's after failing with spiritway multiple times. (I did have FS on one of the rits). I found this to be quick and relatively painless for Vloxen's. I haven't tried Frostmaw with it yet, but that's because I've already got it in my book. But yeah, to anyone struggling with Vloxen's HM H/H, run this. It does wonders.