Legendary Survivor

Hi All

When I first created my Guildwars character I did not really know about titles and stuff, so I have decided to create a new character to muck around with for titles. After reading some posts and guides it seems legendary survivor is the best first title to get. After reading posts it seems the two best ways to gain the exp needed for this title is either the boxing in EOTN or Kuzrik Hero Faction farming, so good stuff there, my question is what about getting my character to this point, if I am careful can getting to this point with Henchmen (New Ranger/Monk Factions Character) work, especially for the missions or even the run to the above areas, or is it advisable to get help for the missions and running to outposts?

Cheers

Nos

If you are careful, of course. It is very possible to get to either without dying. Boxing should be easier to get to since the heroes can help out a lot and there aren't any "missions" to get in the way. I know there are runners who can help you get to HFFF, but again, it isn't impossible to do it yourself.

You can't go boxing with heroes. HFFF is probably the easiest way, and you'll make money off of it, too.

I think Sindy was referring to the fact the Heros help you get TO the Boxing NOT to help with it

they might help get to it but you'll still have to get to level 10 without dying on your own before you can make it to EoTN I highly recommend getting guild members to help you get to lutgardis to do hfff. Let them know that your a survivor and what not and be ready to exit the game if your about to die at any point int he missions leading up to lutgardis.

yes, i was. Thank you

And yes you have to get to 10, but that is crazy easy in factions. And once you are in EotN, you get buffed to level 20 until you are actually level 20. A good alternative, at any rate. But HFFF does have the advantage of once you are there, you aren't gonna die by lag or something.

Become one with the imp.. the imp is your friend.

I think it should be pretty good do-able with henchies and heroes. If you're not sure about some parts of the game, ask some thrustworthy friends and explain you are going for survivor.

I just got Legendary last month by farming the 10 wurms just ouside Boreal station n NM until I got to lvl 20, and then HM after that.
I ran a poison arrow/pet build.
I farmed it with Olias with a mixed minion-life stealing build and could get the run down to about 3.5 minutes. It's pretty low risk because as a ranger you're attacking at range and the wurms there have no ranged attacks. I used XP scrolls on a lot of runs, a slayer's insight scroll will mean you get 4620 xp every run with Olias in the party. That costs a lot, but the time trade-off was worth it for me. You cannot go across either of the bridges there--one bridge has aloe pop-ups that kill fast (learned that the hard way with another would-be survivor), and if you go across the bridge to the other 3 wurms, pinesols patrol that area in HM.

This is neither the cheapest nor the fastest route. HFFF is probably faster and you'll gain gold if you're not burning through xp scrolls. However, I don't have a reliable enough connection to do Killroy's punch-out, and I wanted to earn the xp myself (nothing against leechers, it just wasn't what I wanted to do), so this was a good alternative. If you do it without xp scrolls, you'll make money every run on the drops. Lockpicks, golds, map pieces, and warrior tomes drop periodically. A chest spawns nearly every run, so you'll be able to work on treasure hunter, wisdom, and unlucky titles at the same time if you don't mind spending a ton of money on breaking lockpicks.

I run missions with guild members or H/H. I never use PUG's since the coordination is not guaranteed, and some ornery soul might think it's funny to let you die. If I H/H, I have a level 20 monk in my first hero slot, and I have him hot-keyed to use protective spirit and a healing spell on me in tough spots. My ranger has all survivor insignia, a superior vigor rune, and minor ranger runes appropriate runes for my profession. I carry a sundering longbow of fortitude, and I make sure to use my Norn title, which gives a hp boost, in Norn territory. It means my energy pool isn't fabulous, but it's kept me alive in a couple tight spots. If my connection is laggy or I'm tired, I play another non-survivor character. It's too easy to make a fatal maistake when tired, and lagging out in the middle of battle can be death.

Good luck to everyone working on this title.

if you have the money, pay for a survivor run, this will get you a runner that does all the missions+quests that is required to bring you to Lutgardis for HFFF. After you have done this and gotten to lvl 10 or maybe even higher, you should go over to the EotN and get to boxing from there bring scrolls and do again and again and soon(ya right) youll be legendary survivor.

definatly go HFFF

quick and easy once u get there and ull get a few tiers towards your kurzick title as well as some decent spending money

WURMS. WURMS. WURMS. WOOT.

There is another WURM LS out there. kewl. I did this with my War just after the release of GE:WN. It is the BEST way to get the title with almost no chance of death. I will read what the poster above says then edit here. Just so excited to see another Wurm man.

As i suspected, a RANGED attacker. Yes doing ranged you can do this with started armor or no armor as you will take 0 damage cause the Snow Wurms are MEELE ONLY. Yes the can not kill you.

I do like the way Jae Onasi describes the hard mode deaths. There are 13 Snow Wurms to kill in Normal Mode and only 10 In Hard Mode.

The drops are better in hard mode than in normal mode. You might get lucky to get a gold with the forget me not inscription in it and sell that for 20K.


Although I am not quite sure why Jae Onasi was using Olias in tha party. Maybe for faster kills. I will try this tonight to see if the XP is changed or not.

Just a though. This would also be a KILLA of a way to lvl the Heor's up that I have from Nightfal..Hummm???

My wife has this game and she is getting to lvl 10 in preseaing and then I am running her to the Station so that she can lvl her Survivor and get the title. It is a Necro toon that she has with Mesmer as secondary. She only has NM so she should do OK if she does not get too bored. I have started another one as well and I will use it to farm the Snow Wurms. I want to try and get 10 Million Xp without a death.

I will check to see what scroll I used. I think it was the 5 minute Boss one. 175% for 594 XP solo per kill in HM. or 175xp per kill in Normal mode. I will check

I am close to reaching lvl 2 on my title. I started out as a rit/monk in Factions and made it to lvl 10 just doing all of the secondary profession quests. (Careful on the Mesner quests- lots of Crimsons on the 2nd part, and always leave from the town where the henches are lvl 6).

I did get guild members to help me in some the missions because I can't risk logging out if I team up with a PUG group, and some missions are too hard to do yourself. I have never logged out yet and was able to contribute to the team - had some close calls though. Otherwise, I leveled up doing missions and quests in Nightfall and factions (by myself no help from anyone), and am at Arborstone right now. Thats going to be a hard one. I have done some of the Kilroy stuff too, but it's just to darn boring to level that way. Frankly its kind of exciting to run quests/missions and figure out ways not to get killed. But great fun too. It's just a different way playing.

I don't believe anyone reached the LS title without help from others. But when I get my title I can say I earned it. Just make sure you get your heroes as soon as you can. It doesn't hurt to ask for help in towns when you need help - just mention you are on a survivor track. I have helped other survivors. There are many of us earning our titles the hard way

They can kill you if you accidentally stray too close and don't know where they pop up and you don't get out of the way fast enough. I found it helpful to do a couple runs with another character to get that down. I would recommend any survivor max out their armor as soon as possible because you need to stay alive long enough to get to EotN.

I was lucky enough that at an early level someone in my guild happened to be going to the Consulate docks and they ferried me so I could get max armor. I bought the highest armor I could and put survivor runes on everything--that's important for getting through at least the first 10 levels, and beneficial the rest of the way. I've added another couple hundred thousand xp on that character since making LS because I had the hit points to do it in some tricky spots.
I would tend to agree. The whites, blues, and grapes sell pretty well, and the golds frequently had at least 1 max mod on it, or near max that were well worth salvaging. I have a ton of inscriptions sitting in storage right now waiting to be used by other characters.


I used Olias for minions to keep the wurms from burrowing which allowed for faster kills. I probably could have tried a melee hero and accomplished the same thing. In solo mode it took me about 12 minutes or so to complete a run. With Olias it was about 3.5 or so. It cut my xp in half per run with Olias in the party, but the xp per hour was greater.

Probably. XP is XP. I leveled my ranger's pet doing the runs to 20, and evolved it to hearty.
EotN and Factions are relatively quick enough to finish to get to hard mode--might be worth it to do those with another character to unlock HM. NM will take quite a bit longer to get to LS, but certainly doable, if she doesn't mind the boredom.

I used the slayer's insight which gives 250% for 5 minutes and ends if you don't kill a boss in that time. I'd have a whole lot more gold in storage if I hadn't used the scrolls, but I'd probably still be killing wurms, too. I couldn't do it fast enough in solo mode to beat the 5 minute mark, but I could easily with Olias in the party.

Some would call it 'maximum utilization of available resources'. I'm not going to knock someone for doing HFFF or Kilroy, nor am I going to get upset if someone feels strongly that the only way to earn the title is through missions/capping skills. Everyone approaches this game and this title a little differently, and each person has to determine what their own stance is on the method(s) for achieving this title. If we're enjoying playing the game, however, that's what counts.

DONT BOX if you lose connection you will be dead
and its no joke
you wouldnt want to reconnect and see 1 death when you have 1336k xp?

HFFF is the FASTEST and SECURIEST WAY

Hey all

Thanks for all the replys, I nearly blew it last night I henched Zen Daijun and nearly died at the last point of the mission was down to 5 health, ouch. I have actually found I am enjoying the game much better with the fear of dying, lol. I am going to try and get survivor on my own merit instead of the leeching way.

Cheers

Nos

Real players get Legendary Survivor doing HM DoA runs in balanced groups. With pugs.

Hi

Thanks for the reply, but I am only at the third mission on the factions campaign, nevermind completing Nightfall, so I have got a long way of surviving before I can think about DoA especially since I do not belong to a guild and play the game using only henchmen. If I survive that long them I will look into the DoA though, but knowing my play skills I will probably die long before that :-) I have just realised that completing all 3 campaigns with Masters / Bonus and EOTN on Normal mode will only get me around 1/8th of the exp needed, damn I have a long way to go.

Cheers

Nos

Going for Survivor also teaches you a lot about the game!

I really learned how to start pulling properly, and when to kite and when to bail if things are going south, once death meant something more than a DP.

r1 is easy to get. r2 a little tougher, doing it without farming or boxing. r3 is still an accomplishment if you get it by doing missions and quests and skill-capping. Good luck to you!

I think The Meth was joking.

I totally agree. There've been a couple times where I've done my Brave Sir Robin imitation instead of just dying, but mostly I've learned how to pull and manage my heroes more effectively, put together better skill bars, and so forth.

AMEN Jae Onasi!

As an update. I ran my wife's toon to LA last night and I need to get my new survivor - going for 10 Million XP - to LA and then to the station.

Thanks for the info on why u used a party member to go with. I think that I used the less expensive scroll cause it ended up not costing me anything. I would sell the drops I got and then use a scroll so the title progressed faster but I still got it at no additional cost.

i do like to go back there every now and then and get the lockpicks to progress on my lucky title as I farm Charr Carvings at Fort Ranik. There are 1-3 chests there that I can open and have a great chance of keeping the lockpicks.

As for my remarks about using no armor you are right. You should have MAX armor just because it is smart with the appropriate runes on it.

It did take me almost a month to perfect my war build so that I can kill the snow wurms in HM before they go into the ground. Settle down everyone. Yes I said a month. I needed to cap some skills and play around with my build to get it just right.

Once I got my skills I needed to get the right secondary profession so I had to Pay someone to run me to the desert and then to get the Elemental as secondary. Why? Cause of the Fire spell that the ele has. I used the "deals extra damage when yielding a FIRE Weapon".

So I also played with my shield. As you know Jae Onasi there are a million nice armor +10 mods that you have in storage no doubt. So one day I took 5 shields with me to try and figure out what type of damage the Snow Wurms deal. It took a bit but I found out and I use that shield.

Oh the type. get this.. FIRE damage. Snow Wurms deal Fire Damage.

So my weapon is fire and any shied is fire.


Now to address some thing else in this thread. If you do not like getting survivor this way keep it to yourself. Go bug someone else. We are trying to be constructive. Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes.

If you want to go on about the old days that's fine. i was there in the old days when a group of 8 was real people. We had fun. This is fun to me. I like farming and grinding. It upsets no one and I run solo.

So go get your title.

WOOT.

Just a quick tip to remember, if going for Survivor through normal play, once you've reached Canthan mainland - don't Ascend doing the Nahpui mission. Take yourself to Tyria, get to the desert and ascend using the Augury Rock mission - that 50k xp is very sweet!

Just did this last night on my Rit survivor, now can do the quests for 5 new secondary professions, free of charge! (and as this is my "poorer, secondary" account, any chance to save money is greatly appreciated ).

Good luck whichever way you end up going for survivor. I've found that re-playing the old quests/missions with a character that MUST survive has actually brought alot of fun (for me) back into the game. Certainly makes you rethink your tactics and method of play.

Have fun.

Oh yes - and of course, as soon as you're able, don't forget pick up what heroes you can from NF and EotN.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Survivor

I'm currently working my way towards the title with Dwarven Boxing on my Paragon while under the effect of 150% xp scrolls. (Yes, there are better, more expensive scrolls but I want to make some money along the way as well) It works quite well. Just hoping I don't get a disconnect...

I started out with a to-be Legendary Survivor in the first campaign. After quickly choosing a secondary and getting all the skills from both primary and secondary in pre-searing I moved on. If you're afraid to lose in the mini-PvP match due to low level, then I'd recommend logging out and then logging back in. This will put you where Rurik talks with the guards (thus skipping the PvP).

The next thing you should do is work your way up to level 10. During this time, feel free to grab some skill quests. You don't need to do any missions. Get a run to LA. Run to D'Alessio (flag your hereos when fighing imps). Enter an EMPTY district and stand where the gate is. Behind this gate, there will be a horde of enemies being killed by the White Mantle. You get free EXP from them This'll help you get to level 10 real quick.

Next, grab the quest to get to Eye of the North. You'll be treated as a level 20 at this point. Run to EotN outpost. Run to (forgot the name of the city that has dwarven boxing :P). Get to level 20. It'll be really quick.

At this point, you can either continue with boxing, or try and get to Lutgardis.

If you want to do HFFF, then you need to go back to Lion's Arch and get the quests to go to Cantha and Elona. To get to Cantha is easy. Take care as you'll be alone and two Afflicted will pop out before you enter the main city (where Jamie (sp?) is). There will be an NPC team to take care of that, though.

To get to Elona, you need to be more defensive due to the high level mobs and low level henchmen. Take defensive skills: Armour of Earth, Protective Spriit, etc... Also, having someone help you will make it a lot easier. It's not hard, but why take a risk :P

You'll get a quest to meet Kormeer (sp?) outside. You'll also unlock some heroes. The three you'll need for HFFFing are Koss, Melonni, and Vekk.

Go back to Cantha and you'll need to complete a few missions (5?) in order to get to House Zu Heltzer. Either get the run, or be very careful doing them.

Good luck!

Nice tip on the white mantle I like that idea and I have never heard of it before. Sweet.

I just recently made my Rit survivor after dying on my way to FFF :'(. Wurms would be the safest way possible. I started doing boxing but then I accepted the quest, so now im just gunna wurm farm. Does anyone know any good rit builds for wurm farming?

Arrrrrrgggggg

225k XP, nearly a 1/5 of the way there, was doing good up until now, but yes went and got myself killed, some bad pulling on my part in the Sunjiang District Mission and unfortuantly my Hench healers couldnt keep me alive, sob, why does it seem every mob in the game wants to target you when you have a specific goal in mind, I am sure they can read thoughts . Oh well was only a couple of days worth of gamig, Delete and start again, I am determined to get that title, without leeching in HFFF.

Cheers

Nos

I read it in the forums once. I forgot the person's name, but the title of the thread was something along the lines of "I'm ready to share some secrets"

To tell you the truth, I would probably go with the HFF Kurzick Side since you can make money off it too along with your experience points.

Don't forget you that get 5,000 xp when you cap an elite skill. I did a lot of capping during the weekend where you got 10,000xp for capping elites. Factions and NF are the best places to cap. I haven't been to the desert yet with my Survivor, and I am about 1/3 (or less) into both Factions and NF. I have about 450,000 xp so far.

Well try again. My first survivor took me 3 tries to get. I was lvl 2 on one of them. I was SO MAD. I through a fit of rage. The dogs ran. remember that it takes trials and errors to find the best way. I do not think that there is a single player that has ever gotten survivor "by Chance". This is why it is such a GREAT title. It is hard. Even killing wurms I died once. The trees killed me. I was trying t sneak in and kill a wurms and it cost me my lifee

Live and learn.

I like the capping elites as well.

Just so you know, every guide that said killing wurms always said to ignore the wurms by the trees because they will aggro and kill you. So just remember that for anyone else who does it.

I am doing the lazy way of legendary survivor for my next toon. My assassin I got ran through to hfff and unlocked kahmu so I can use triple d/a with dash and pious haste (now with mox). First time around I did it on my paragon with the hard mode jade knights outside of marketplace with the 2 bonder/ symbiosis and shield of judgement stuff.

If you only have henches that seems to be pretty hard since you can't customize anything to deal with specific threats. Henches are decent but not great if you're a solo player.

If you have heroes though, there's a lot of additional options. Depending if you've cleared Factions before too. The first time I went for LS, I had a N/Mo MM and basically after surviving to Lv 20, continuously ran though the mission Minister Cho's Estate on HM. That, without scrolls, nets about 7k exp per run with a full team of 4 with really good drops, and it's not insanely boring either. So if you have a MM hero, that'll work the same and the chances of dying are pretty low unless you aggro more than 2 groups.

Apart from that. Get to NF after Kaineng and cap every single elite. There's at least 30-40 you can cap after going to the main continent. Just stay away from the dervish bosses unless you're really good at dodging.

Unfortunately LS can be as much about luck as it is about being careful and playing sensibly. If you are going to go HFFF - which (if you get to Lutgardis) is the safest way, then make sure you have a proper team with you for Boreas and Sunjiang. This is assuming you don't get a "run". Boreas still has an odd bug where the spear can wipe your party clean even if you don't go near it, and sunjiang can be deadly if heroes go and aggro the entire boss mob.

For Vizunah, make sure the other team is AI, so everyone skips. Though apparently fixed I hear that the death still counts occassionally.

I tried snow wurm farming on my second survivor. Took too long, though given some of the tips here I might give it another go.

The snow wurms are fast if you build is right. I will tell you this, Mesmer/Necromancer is Crud for anything. I have no idea what possessed me for this build and snow wurms cause the snow wurms do not use "spells" so the mesmeris junk cause there is just no skills that I can use to kill thess wurms in hard mode before they go into the ground.

That said, I just grab the protector henchie and a scroll. I get almost 300 a run in under 3.5 minutes for aroiund 17 runs an hour for 5,032 XP per run hard mode.

While it may not be the safest route, it's certainly not as dull as killing the same 13 wurms over and over again, try farming in Grenth's Footprint (Deldrimor War Camp). Good drops, and easy 4-5k+ per run.

You can get killed, but you'd have to be really unlucky or afk to do so.

Each runs pays for the Hunter's scrolls (300 gp each) easily, and you get: weapon drops; armor drops; purples; and even greens. (I got Flint's Fleshcleaver on 1 run.)

Much more interesting way to get xp!

Just so you know hfff your way to legendary survivor= a loooong process. Each 10k faction dump nets you 50k experience and takes anywhere from 45 mins to an hour depending on loading, how quick you are etc.

I am at like 900kexp and still got another 10 hours to go until my legendary survivor.

You do know that even if you accept the Kilroy Stonekin's Punch-Out Extravaganza! Quest that you can take it again? You just have to take Kilroy's other quest before you can re-take the Punch-Out Extravaganza! again... Thought I'd give u the head's up on that one... XD

if u started from factions, its not very hard to get to boxing u should be able to do it.

just get ran thru the quests and missions (primary) that will get u to bout level 10 by the time u get to marketplace.

then the next step is running to KC, also extrememly easy, and many ppl do it for free.

the quest to get to EOTN, also easy, u can get ran thru that with a simple running build, have a freind do it for free, doesnt take much time. the hardest part, is getting ot gnnars hold. make sure u get the quest from inside the hall of mon. northern allies quests. and fighting to gunnars is easy, but not for a level 10. get ran there i suggest.

i did boxing till rank 2. watch out for lagging, thtas how i died =(