I am starting a discussion thread on using 6 heroes against ROX, NOX, and POX. Henchies tend to suck against them and in some places they are lower level so I am not interested in using henchies, even though they can also be made to work.
This is what I used to bring 18 of my PvE characters, in both accounts through the quests. It is a modified version of my 6-heroes Discord build, I wont declare it is optimal, but the build worked for me. Since I can only control 1 account at a time, the other character is semi-passive.
[build prof=R/Me dom=6 exp=10 wil=8 mar=11][Broad Head Arrow][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Whirling Defense][Troll Unguent][Resurrection Signet][Cry of Frustration][no skill][/build]
Target lock on NOX or POX.
[build prof=N/Rt blo=10 death=8 sou=8 cha=10][Spoil Victor][Shadow Strike][Lifebane Strike][Putrid Bile][Jaundiced Gaze][Signet of Lost Souls][Warmonger's Weapon][Bloodsong][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt death=10 sou=9 cur=4 res=11][Discord][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Weaken Armor][Rend Enchantments][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt death=10 sou=8 res=12][Discord][Weapon of Warding][Spirit Light][Mend Body and Soul][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt death=10 sou=9 cur=4 res=11][Discord][Enfeebling Blood][Spirit Light][Mend Body and Soul][Protective Was Kaolai][Recovery][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=N/Mo sou=11 cur=6 hea=2 pro=12][Divert Hexes][Remove Hex][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Defile Flesh][Signet of Lost Souls][Resurrection Chant][/build]
Golem quests with 6 heroes
DarkSpirit
payne
discord spike yay....
anyway it can be done so easily h/h.....don't need two sets of heroes sorry but they are so bloody easy with h/h regardless of them being in ToA and only lvl15
sorry but they are easy enough without a discord style spike
anyway it can be done so easily h/h.....don't need two sets of heroes sorry but they are so bloody easy with h/h regardless of them being in ToA and only lvl15
sorry but they are easy enough without a discord style spike
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by payne
discord spike yay....
anyway it can be done so easily h/h.....don't need two sets of heroes sorry but they are so bloody easy with h/h regardless of them being in ToA and only lvl15
sorry but they are easy enough without a discord style spike Since I wanted to bring 2 characters across at one time, I may as well bring 6 heroes.
anyway it can be done so easily h/h.....don't need two sets of heroes sorry but they are so bloody easy with h/h regardless of them being in ToA and only lvl15
sorry but they are easy enough without a discord style spike Since I wanted to bring 2 characters across at one time, I may as well bring 6 heroes.
payne
so the point of this thread is?
anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss
discussion on it...its just another thread on how great discord spike is and how much greater it is with two people...yay
anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss
discussion on it...its just another thread on how great discord spike is and how much greater it is with two people...yay
phan
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Originally Posted by payne
so the point of this thread is?
anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss
discussion on it...its just another thread on how great discord spike is and how much greater it is with two people...yay
Lol ; you sir fail , waisting your time giving un-usefull comments on other people .. He's just trying to help etc ..
anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss
discussion on it...its just another thread on how great discord spike is and how much greater it is with two people...yay
Lol ; you sir fail , waisting your time giving un-usefull comments on other people .. He's just trying to help etc ..
Painbringer
Crazy yes but I was able to zap the casting golems with Me (mesmer) and Gwen running [Arcane Languor] and a bunch of energy removing skills and me with an [Aneurysm] added to my bar. Interruption is king though. 3 interrupts are a must and you have to micro it sometimes. Balance for me was hench MOX and Livia running SS
payne
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Originally Posted by phan
Quote: Originally Posted by payne anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss
is it even plausable to think that I actually posted a rough team set-up that anyone could ask for if they don't actually have access to 2 accounts? or were you just wanting to boost your e-peen by insulting someone?
on topic: discord spike is nice but not neccessary for these quests IMO...but a tradition setup of hexer, nuker, healer setup on heroes with random hench does work fine....from what the MAJORITY of people have said...
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Yes I agree Troll is not really necessary, if I can think of a good replacement. |
Originally Posted by -Lotus-
I dont see why we would need specific hero builds for this. these quests are pretty easy.
OMG - someone with logic yay
-Lotus-
I dont see why we would need specific hero builds for this. these quests are pretty easy.
DarkSpirit
This thread is for helping people who have problems coming up with a viable 6 heroes or even H/H build to complete the quests and for those who want to post comments to help them out. For others who are not interested in the information or to help out, please move on.
Getting back on topic, I also used MOX as a Ghost Runner all the way back to the Lair when I am done, along with other characters in the team (if you want to help others out). [[Enchanted Haste] is a good skill to use with UA. gremlin
The most annoying thing about these forums and probably others are the smug people who find everything easy.
They simply cannot identify with people who are just not as great as themselves. Its a stupid position to take every time someone comes here trying to help others and these unspeakable fools pull them down every time. Ok we all get the point you are great, pvp rules pve is easy all missions are easy solo or with henchmen. They can be done by you with no skills and with your eyes shut, ok we get it now shut up and let people who actually do have problems and would like a little help get on with it. You do realise I assume that outside the game is the real world where people are better at some things than you, I hope they all treat you as you treat us here. ps I am of the opinion that flaming the flamers is a good thing I encourage more people to kick them and their comments from the forums. Ignoring them seems to do little. Turbobusa
Well lets see:
ROX: weakness, protective spirit. check POX: interrupts. check NOX: interrupts, party heal. check. should do the trick. To the above lol, seconded. FoxBat
Replace "interrupts" with "broadhead and some physicals" and you're good. Some of those skills have strong interrupt resistance, and the above is far more efficient than entire bars full of interrupts.
Turbobusa
Wand during discord recharge time.
Sharkman
[Broad head arrow] works wonders against the two non-physicals, but yes, if you are someone who has two accounts or are working with a buddy, this setup looks like it could be close to optimal.
jackerduud
Did Pox earlier, went in without thinking about interrupts and such (K, forgot), played Splinter Barrage with Pain Inventer, Tri-Necro, a healer hench, 2 ele henches, and the warrior.
It was a long and boring fight, like 3-4 Hero/Hench deaths, but eventually grinded it down. I'd figure it had went a lot faster if i was interrupting, and brought specialized builds, but hey, it worked. I'll check out the other bosses tomorrow. Tyla
Is there really any point in Troll Unguent (Which is a terrible skill under most circumstances) and Whirling Defense when you already have a shitload of heals?
Outside of that, what is the kill time for each golem?
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Outside of that, what is the kill time for each golem? |
Whirling Defense is more debatable since it grants 75% block and some damage.
I have not timed it, but kill time is still quite long.
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Originally Posted by jackerduud
Did Pox earlier, went in without thinking about interrupts and such (K, forgot), played Splinter Barrage with Pain Inventer, Tri-Necro, a healer hench, 2 ele henches, and the warrior.
It was a long and boring fight, like 3-4 Hero/Hench deaths, but eventually grinded it down. I'd figure it had went a lot faster if i was interrupting, and brought specialized builds, but hey, it worked. I'll check out the other bosses tomorrow. Interrupts help with POX but you may still be able to complete it without interrupts. I had no deaths with POX, which incidentally performed better than a PUG that I joined just for fun, half the team died and the rest of us ran out of rez. POX can be devastating to melee.But you should definitely try to bring interrupts for NOX. NOX is the worst of all 3, and ROX was the easiest. You dont even need an interrupter for ROX. One of the reasons why NOX is the toughest is because you need to protect the stupid Prince who runs around soaking up as much damage as possible. Some attention has to be focused on protecting/healing him. My interrupter was locked on NOX to interrupt some of his more powerful attacks. Only after the Prince has left, then I could focus all my fire power on NOX and his golems which he conjures very quickly. Having 6 heroes and 2 teams helps in this sense too.
MercenaryKnight
I did manage to beat nox without interrupts, ended up with 6 discord necro team and me and my partner with assassin's promise, you move like a dwarf and assassin support. Basically all the heroes would damage and then when the prince ran around we would nuke the golems out while I kept pain inverter being spammed on nox.
Luckily all the golems around= perfect assassin's promise bait because you can throw it on one of those and instantly recast pain inverter on the boss for every kill.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
I did manage to beat nox without interrupts, ended up with 6 discord necro team and me and my partner with assassin's promise, you move like a dwarf and assassin support. Basically all the heroes would damage and then when the prince ran around we would nuke the golems out while I kept pain inverter being spammed on nox.
Luckily all the golems around= perfect assassin's promise bait because you can throw it on one of those and instantly recast pain inverter on the boss for every kill. Yes, my necro used an AP build too on the golems. Even after the Prince has ran out, I still tried to kill the conjured golems from time to time until he goes half life, while the other character targets NOX. If you dont weed out his golems, then his attacks would be even more lethal. Interrupts still help but I only needed 1 main interrupter. Without interrupts, you take a bigger risk and possibly with more DP.
Accursed
I was hoping for something original for beating R.O.X., N.O.X., and P.O.X, but I guess I didn't get what I hoped for.
Seriously? People probably have used the 'Discord Spike' crap-o-la already.
FyrFytr998
My Warrior + [Sneak Attack] + [Spoil Victor] = GG vs. ROX
[Broad Head Arrow] + [Migraine] = GG vs. NOX and POX If you wanna use 6 heroes by all means do so, but H/H is feasible once you figure out the enemies strengths. As has been stated. Heroes need to be target locked on the ?.O.X's for success. Another tid bit for the NOX mission. After target locking, make sure you move your group around away from NOX while you keep a decent area clear of bit golems. You don't need to kill every single bit golem, but you do need a generally Golem free area to stand when he blows all the bit golems to kingdom come. Also, I'm not sure if it was mentioned. Players do NOT have to have MOX in their group for the quests. Just the run to Zinn's secret place in the falls after.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Monarch
Seriously? People probably have used the 'Discord Spike' crap-o-la already.
Seriously why wouldn't people want to use the Discord spike for almost everything else when it has been working so well?
I have it all setup on my heroes by default, and it actually takes more time and effort for me to change the entire team build, for no apparent payoff, than to continue using it. I already use almost the same build for vanquishing, DoA and Slavers, besides the Golem quests, with minimal changes between them. http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/User:Dar...s_Discord_Spam I use 6-heroes as I want to bring both characters through at the same time on my 2 accounts too.
ALF71BE
Did them all twice H/H, no deaths.
[magebane shot][savage shot][distracting shot] only for NOX. The other two only required [protective spirit]. I lock my heroes on NOX and I go around killing his golems. Can't kill even half of them but who cares as I have a ranger interrupting every single spell/stuff NOX tries to do. |
