If anyone noticed, next weekend if Competitive Mission weekend again, which is taking up the pve weekend slot. These are PvP, but it appear because they don't double the Balth faction reward, this is legitimate "PvE" weekend. I willing to bet next weekend will be another PvP weekend, looking at their pattern it will be double gvg. I understand Anet tries to balance the weekend event, and usually does a good job. But this is my major complaint, they count competitive and gamer points missions as pve content. These are PvP event because:
You fight against other players.
PvP characters have access to them.
Yes there are NPC, but so does HB, GvG, Ab, and even Ra/TA and HA has the ghostly and priest. I understand competitive mission have more NPC than most PvP, but that doesn't make then PvE
How to make future weekends not PvP in PvE clothing, either add double the priests blessing, or just double the title points when you turn in faction.
Honestly does anyone else think this weekend has nothing to do with pve except maybe to get people who don't' know the eradon terras glitch Cartographer.
Note to Anet: Competitive Missions are not PvE Content
Shadowmoon
Arduin
Thank you for informing me.
Trylo
competitive missions are, imo, not (organized) pvp. this competition goes in the same category as AB, RA, Costume Brawl, etc. as a pvper myself, i never go there and generally dont consider it real pvp.
for me, pvp means an organized fight between 2 separate teams. these arenas (Quarry, Fort) are more like rock paper scissors, with assassins being a trump card.
that all being said, i agree that you pvers should get your weekends. even if they are a spectacular letdown like most of the pvp weekends.
for me, pvp means an organized fight between 2 separate teams. these arenas (Quarry, Fort) are more like rock paper scissors, with assassins being a trump card.
that all being said, i agree that you pvers should get your weekends. even if they are a spectacular letdown like most of the pvp weekends.
gerlin
I think you're right. Last time i checked PvP means Player versus Player, and PvE means Player versus Environment. Although AB / competitive missions shouldn't be counted as PvP anyway, they should be in a separate class, like PvR : Player versus Randomness.
MercenaryKnight
I think a.net needs to start providing every weekend with 2 events. One for a pvp bonus and one for a pve bonus. So for example, Double balthazar faction and double green drop weekend all in one.
It couldn't be that hard to make every weekend event have something for both pve and pvp.
It couldn't be that hard to make every weekend event have something for both pve and pvp.
DarkNecrid
There's no such thing as PvE weekend slots or PvP weekend slots. >_>
Bryant Again
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There's no such thing as PvE weekend slots or PvP weekend slots. >_>
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Um Yeah
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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
If anyone noticed, next weekend if Competitive Mission weekend again, which is taking up the pve weekend slot.
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Zinger314
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
I think a.net needs to start providing every weekend with 2 events. One for a pvp bonus and one for a pve bonus. So for example, Double balthazar faction and double green drop weekend all in one.
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Screw the weekends, they have money!
gerlin
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
I think a.net needs to start providing every weekend with 2 events. One for a pvp bonus and one for a pve bonus. So for example, Double balthazar faction and double green drop weekend all in one.
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upier
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
ArenaNet should just make those things permanent.
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Make it so that EVERY weekend we have double Balths, double Luxon, double grind titles, double HA, ...
There is no way that a person will get max in those titles JUST by playing on the weekends (OR that insanely faster that it would cause some massive imbalance).
On-topic:
Yeah, they probably aren't PvE.
Must be why I still enjoy them. ^^
Kook~NBK~
Oh, look! It's Tuesday!!!
There are no "PvE weekend slots" OR "PvP weekend slots." There never have been. Two PvP weekends (or PvE weekends) in a row is not a legitimate reason for complaining about how A-Net schedules these events. If they did 4+ in a row of whichever type, then MAYBE it would be comment worthy. The fact that there is something very close to a 50/50 split between the types of weekends should count for something in the war against QQ.
I suspect the cartographers (PvE) will be delighted to see some activity in JQ. And I'm sure some PvPers will take advantage of the opportunity to "pwn sum nubs." I'm also sure that there are many people from both PvP and PvE who will look at this weekend as an opportunity for a change of pace from the regular grind.
There are no "PvE weekend slots" OR "PvP weekend slots." There never have been. Two PvP weekends (or PvE weekends) in a row is not a legitimate reason for complaining about how A-Net schedules these events. If they did 4+ in a row of whichever type, then MAYBE it would be comment worthy. The fact that there is something very close to a 50/50 split between the types of weekends should count for something in the war against QQ.
I suspect the cartographers (PvE) will be delighted to see some activity in JQ. And I'm sure some PvPers will take advantage of the opportunity to "pwn sum nubs." I'm also sure that there are many people from both PvP and PvE who will look at this weekend as an opportunity for a change of pace from the regular grind.
Gift3d
AB and competitive missions are WAY more PvE than PvP. They're basically cooperative PvE.
This is a PvE weekend. Without a doubt.
This is a PvE weekend. Without a doubt.
DutchSmurf
Who cares if they are PvE, PvP or PvSomethingElse? There are no 'slots' for certain types of weekends, never were, probably never will be. Stop complaining about pointless things and just enjoy whatever weekend you get.
upier
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AB and competitive missions are WAY more PvE than PvP. They're basically cooperative PvE.
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NecroticChanter
CMs aren't pvp at all. You fight NPCs half the time if you are doing it correctly. They are PvPvE at best.
slowerpoke
whats a competitive mission
DreamWind
I think every weekend should be a PvP weekend. Actually remove PvE from the game.
Odinius
Call me a noob but..
I didn't even know there were fixed weekends for PvE or PvP events, just thought it was random.
I didn't even know there were fixed weekends for PvE or PvP events, just thought it was random.
Esprit
In Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry you fight other players, you are pitted versus other players. Thus FA and JQ are PvP. Just a different flavor of it.
If you are saying they are PvE (Player versus Environment) then the Environment is other players, thus GvG would be considered PvE???
Somehow the logic of FA & JQ not being PvP does not compute.
If you are saying they are PvE (Player versus Environment) then the Environment is other players, thus GvG would be considered PvE???
Somehow the logic of FA & JQ not being PvP does not compute.
Zaris
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In Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry you fight other players, you are pitted versus other players. Thus FA and JQ are PvP. Just a different flavor of it.
If you are saying they are PvE (Player versus Environment) then the Environment is other players, thus GvG would be considered PvE??? Somehow the logic of FA & JQ not being PvP does not compute. |
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Zaris
Fa and JQ are counted for Cartographer thereby making them pve
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Esprit
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Originally Posted by Zaris
Fa and JQ are counted for Cartographer thereby making them pve
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I feel that you need to give me a better reason to call FA and JQ PvE when you are fighting versus other players... also known as PVP!
Zaris
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
FA and JQ can bring PvP only chars to them thereby nulifying your argument.
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Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Who cares? zzzzzzzz
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Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by gerlin
, they should be in a separate class, like PvR : Player versus Randomness.
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Honestly AB should be called PvWTFARETHESEDUMBIDIOTSRUNNING (yes this is making of bad builds in AB).
But seriously why are the considered PvP they have no PvP aspect aside from maps and killing something.
captain_carter
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This picture should sum it up nicely...
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Basically this is just an ambiguous weekend, it goes in the semi-regular ambiguous slot and takes up neither of the non-officially-existing PvE/PvP "slots".
Either that or it's both, and everyone gets the right to complain some more, yay!
Shadowmoon
For those who think it just random, and not assigned on a balance look here:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weekend_events
Most weekend follow the pattern of one pve based weekend, and then one pvp based weekend. The deviations happen when special event are involved, these are based on RL date, but these are usually remedied by two pvp weekend right before or after. If you can fallow the pattern, it mean that anet considers competitive missions bonus weekend as a pve weekend. This pattern goes back to June 07, with the exception of two major events, the GW:EN preview/ launch weekends, and the Xmas promotion of GW:EN. Other than these two events, weekend events are not random and very predictable on the PvP side. The order is alwasy HA, GvG, RA/TA, HB, then AB. The only random element on pvp order is the double tournement rewards, but but the last 2 came right after HA weekend, so that might be it newly made order. THe only time there was ever 3 pvp weekend in a row was when competitive missions were in the middle of HA and tournement point weekends.
And this is what leads me to conclude that Anet thinks competitive mission are PvE, and not doubling the Balth faction as well as Alliance faction just supports my claim.
And the best cement for my claim is that I bet that next weekend will be GvG weekend. Wonder what all these people claiming it random would say if i'm right.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weekend_events
Most weekend follow the pattern of one pve based weekend, and then one pvp based weekend. The deviations happen when special event are involved, these are based on RL date, but these are usually remedied by two pvp weekend right before or after. If you can fallow the pattern, it mean that anet considers competitive missions bonus weekend as a pve weekend. This pattern goes back to June 07, with the exception of two major events, the GW:EN preview/ launch weekends, and the Xmas promotion of GW:EN. Other than these two events, weekend events are not random and very predictable on the PvP side. The order is alwasy HA, GvG, RA/TA, HB, then AB. The only random element on pvp order is the double tournement rewards, but but the last 2 came right after HA weekend, so that might be it newly made order. THe only time there was ever 3 pvp weekend in a row was when competitive missions were in the middle of HA and tournement point weekends.
And this is what leads me to conclude that Anet thinks competitive mission are PvE, and not doubling the Balth faction as well as Alliance faction just supports my claim.
And the best cement for my claim is that I bet that next weekend will be GvG weekend. Wonder what all these people claiming it random would say if i'm right.
Bryant Again
For the record: I'm not one of those saying "lol it's random", but "wow I never noticed that before".
Nonetheless, I don't think anything's really set in stone...
Nonetheless, I don't think anything's really set in stone...
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by DreamWind
I think every weekend should be a PvP weekend. Actually remove PvE from the game.
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Technically, you are already doing it. By playing only PvP - which is your game - you are removing youself from PvE - which is my game. Isn't it wonderful how Guild Wars gives you options? That's the reason this game was successful. People who ask for one part of it to be "deleted" are asking for ANet to shoot themselves in the head.
On topic: Weekend events are lame. I said it when I was a student with tons of free time and I'm still saying it now that I work a 4 to 12 job with a Monday-Tuesday "weekend." All they do is drive up play numbers in specific areas, which makes someone at ANet feel good about themselves.
If ANet really cared about the game (which, to me, means removing grind), they would make "weekend" effects permanent as Zinger suggests, so that people can once again play the game because they love it and not because of e-peens or HoM.
Lest121
Hopefully the skill update this month will make us forget about the crappy (weak)end event.
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Zaris
They can also be brought to the zaishen challenge but that doesn't make it pvp
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I'm just saying your argument isn't a very good one about JQ/FA.
DarkNecrid
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
ArenaNet should just make those things permanent.
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I hope it isn't because that will make me feel dorky if it is.
Also no there really isn't PvE/PvP weekend slots though it usually turns out that way and they wind up even, there has been double PvP weekends and double PvE weekends, so.
Avarre
This is the most pointless complaint I had ever seen.