N.O.X. and dungeon bosses

Charr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/A

A question for Anet:
Why isn't N.O.X. a dungeon boss?
Nearly every dungeon boss in Guild Wars can be defeated by a 5 year old child, and yet when you finally do come up with a boss that isn't pure "tank and spank" you make him a quest boss, why?

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Guess it would be to much work to make him a a dungeon boss let alone make an entire dungeon, would be cool though.

Hell Raiser

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

You're right, N.O.X. isn't "tank and spank", BHA + NOX = 1,000,000 hp paper weight. Seriously though, if daze didn't work on him and they dropped his hp, then he would be a wonderful dungeon boss.

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

when i beat him we didnt use daze, and apart from the dude running away and dieing, we had no problems. There was a magbane hero involved though.

Imo there should be more bosses like him added throughout the game. It was a wonderful experience to come across a boss who could wipe the party at once if he was allowed to, and didnt fall like a sack of shit.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Guild Wars: Where people hate apples because they are not oranges.

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

I don't see the 5 year old children complaining.

Faure

Faure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Earth: Where people hate apples because they are not oranges.
Fixed that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
I don't see the 5 year old children complaining.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

If you were to cut NOX's health in half, or maybe even more, and turn all of his spells into skills, he'd be worth calling a boss.

BHA + 7 H/H = Fail boss.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

BHA makes nox stupidly easy.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Even if his skills weren't spells, it wouldn't make much difference. A party full of melee heroes with disrupting attacks would just lock him down.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Even if his skills weren't spells, it wouldn't make much difference. A party full of melee heroes with disrupting attacks would just lock him down.
And then he would get lucky and party will get wiped. Fight lasts long enough to make mistake or two and for him to get lucky.

He is fine as of now: You know he IS dangerous, and he WILL wipe you if you fail to take some basic precautions, but he is quite relaxing punching bag.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Unless you're running multiple super runes and standing balled-up with no passive defense or monks whatsoever and ignore all the bits entirely, taking repeated spells from N.O.X. isn't a big deal.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

NOX is really easy to beat. Making his spells 'spells' was a bad idea.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Unless you're running multiple super runes and standing balled-up with no passive defense or monks whatsoever and ignore all the bits entirely, taking repeated spells from N.O.X. isn't a big deal.
Some basic precautions, yes.

But - http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/N.O.X._Fire - still hurts even on 80al/600hp characters. (it takes 2 bits to deal fatal damage i believe)

Clearing bits would be kinda feat if you want to lockdown NOX with attack skills...

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Clearing bits would be kinda feat if you want to lockdown NOX with attack skills...
You are familiar with the Paragon class, a class with high, ranged DPS accompanied by strong party support?

Let's also recognize that attack skill interrupts can be used more frequently than spell interrupts - some are even adrenal, meaning you'll have recharges on-par with power return. A tiny bit of micromanagement and nothing will get off. His skills are 2s activation.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Are you familiar with the Paragon class, a class with high, ranged DPS accompanied by strong party support?
Yes. Guess what i used to beat NOX?

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

his hp is insane but he's easy to beat with a BHA 'n stuff yadayada you all know it
i'd love to see a dungeon based on more of those golems like POX or NOX 'n stuff but more dungeon boss like
it would be like a second oola's but with sinister golems and those other golems we saw while fighting nox
or just let GOX go mad and rampage and we gotta go wack him
do it in zinn's lair and... you got a dungeon really
but let it count outside of the eotn so they don't mess up the title track