Anyone doing quests/dungeons nowadays?

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

From the party screens, people are either farming VS (whose price has rock bottomed, so who cares) or trading.

People who are doing quests/dungeons have to rely on H/H because it has become more difficult to find a party for quests/dungeons nowadays. Elite missions are even worse.

So unless I am a trader or farmer, is this game even a real game anymore?

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

well you gotta keep up with the trade and latest fads well i dunno some people do, makes some things easier.
I know alot of people still play the game normally, i think its a real game still aslong as you still have fun thats what matters right?

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

I stopped doing anything serious after getting my main character to GWAMM. Now I just log in to say hi to guildmates and for the odd TA or HA run. Less and less even of that as the months roll on. The other day XP popped up that little message saying that the GW icon was unused and would I like to move it to the rarely used shortcuts folder. I cared about GW just barely enough to click on "No".

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I still do quests, missions and dungeons, even tho I made them all already with my main character.

I wish all of them were account wide an repeatable, so people had to make them all just one, but were able to repeat them anytime.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Doing Tyrian missions currently with 2 friends, I wouldn't do them alone with H/H way too boring. Also Nightly FoW and UW clearouts with friends and 1 or 2 heros, Unless it doesn't take 3hrs, speed isn't our goal but fun.

- Ganni

doudou_steve

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

W/

yup

omgiforgot12chars

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

I just started EotN with my Necromancer and I plan to do what I've done with my Mesmer, Elementalist, Warrior and Ranger:

Beat EotN with every entry in the Hero's Handbook and complete at least 10 dungeons for the Master Dungeon Guide.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkGanni
Doing Tyrian missions currently with 2 friends, I wouldn't do them alone with H/H way too boring. Also Nightly FoW and UW clearouts with friends and 1 or 2 heros, Unless it doesn't take 3hrs, speed isn't our goal but fun.

- Ganni
I used to do that. But friends started to quit also.

Nowadays it is either H/H or dont play unless I dont mind parking my character somewhere for afew hours and LFG for a quest or mission.

Edit: And I am starting to hate Umbral Grotto. That place is now full of shit, cant even get a group going. I think I will sabotage some of their runs just for fun.

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

No. dem 12 characters go ova here

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Yes.
Guilds still do dungeons all the time. If you guild/alliance doesn't, get a more active one.
If you want to pug a dungeon, why put yourself through that horror.

ruffenredie

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

R/Rt

I have never farmed, never done HA or those other things I see mentioned and hate trading, but I do do it occasionally to get items.

I will get round to doing dungeons (and probably HA etc etc) at some point, but I am still working my way through every quest and mission and enjoying it. I've just got my main char to Nightfall, doing every mission and quest and I've been playing for over a year. My other chars I don't do all missions, just go and grab whatever skills or heroes I want to have for them.

I also never use PUG's since they seem to be too tiresome or impossible to find in most places. I play with my mate, or just H/H and I'm perfectly happy.

I would like to have nice 'real' people to play with, but I'm in this for fun and too often just hear 'more experienced' players whinging about everyone who doesn't have the correct build. And I struggle to want to commit to set hours and times to play to make it easy finding online friends.

eeks

eeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, Australia

Lubricated Volcano Love [Club]

Rt/Mo

I used to complete dungeons every few nights with a good real life friend, but he stopped playing, it's kind of boring h/hing dungeons so I haven't done so for a while.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I do them but like you said with h/h or my guildee....since I play at strange hours and sometimes have to stop for things like the phone, the door, pee breaks.....etc I dont want to mess up someone elses time.

just got done doing them mox quests....lets see 12 characters and still have 3 who have yet to go to the jungle (elonian characters)....need a nap now.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

That's the problem. For players who finished everything there's nothign else to do...unless you want to devote OVAR 9000 THOUSAND hours to KoaBD...HURRY UP WITH THE GW2 BETA ALREADY!!!!!

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Ohh, I still play quests but I avoid PUGs most of the time so it's not always that there aren't players but a lot of players tend to stay clear from people they don't know since it could be a big waste of time. I only PUG if I see a team that instills some confidence in me and sometimes I allow one player in my H/H team because I can do it even if that player does nothing so it's not a liability.

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/

well I dont h&h most of the time

I usually 2man+6hero

1 sabway+2ele+1monk is ftw

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

I still do quests/dungeons even tho i class myself as a farmer these days - sometimes i help new players out or try and do things diff ways .

Ganni some time we gotta team up again and have some fun at Dajkah Inlet - me and dawns missing the old days

As for the part about players who have done everything - try ditching your uber builds and try areas with standard builds .. i did a bit of factions after kaineng with a basic daggers build just for fun and was enjoyable as it was a challenge or even go to starter places and help new players so they can learn and improve.
And im sure Ganni will agree with the above as hes posted a few times non uber builds for uw and recently fow that anyone can use rather than needing specialist skills and experiance plus high ranks in some title.

germanturkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

[PoW]

E/

yeah. i play dungeons with my friend often. we both use scythesins so we blow through them with an assortment of heroes.

Daenara

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

Mo/

I think most of the people who were going to max titles and finish all of the quests/missions have already done it. The only reason to do them now is to rush a character through the game to get to the 15k armors.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Whole alliance team for Bogroot a few hours ago. Love the PvP alliance

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

Done pretty much everything with my main, and I stopped playing my other characters when the HoM was introduced. So most common quests I can't be bothered doing again, unless it's a good reward, like some pve skill or something. Though I can't be bothered to do even that most of the time.

If my friends are on, we'll go raid a dungeon or an elite mission or do some gvg or pvp, though lately AB has been more fun to roll people than halls. Otherwise, I'm just on to chat, or look for new dye combo's for my armours.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Yes, and as you can see quite a few people are doing just that. However there aren't very many going in PUGs.

The first "problem" is that a game ages and it's player base becomes more skilled then there is less and less reason to PUG. We have learned to H/H most everything and we generally already have an extensive enough friends list or guild (for those that want to play with other people) that there is little reason to PUG.

That is even assuming that PUGs play well - unfortunately they normally do not. If you are mainly there to socialize while gaming then it's not a big deal - in fact that Wammo or Sin that constantly gets themselves killed or the highly uncoordinated attempts at doing something can actually be fun. Many of the stories given about bad PUGs actually have something of a nostalgic tone to them for that reason - I know I have been in a few where the sheer incompetence was something to remember. Don't get me wrong here either - even when playing for social interaction one should still try and win to the best of their ability (others in your PUG may be trying to succeed and no reason to ruin their fun any more than someone ruining yours using that excuse is going to be liked).

However if one is actually wanting to complete something they are, well, not fun. Failure through sheer stupidity is frustrating. Most of us can handle ignorance (that can be fixed) and most of us can even handle mediocre ability (still better than the AI - can not expect everyone to be a 3 year veteran) but when you just want to clear a dungeon or mission that Wammo that was funny and memorable in the above paragraph is Greatly Disliked.

I play games to have fun, not be frustrated. There are lots of games out there that are fun. GW has occupied me for over three years now because it has been consistently fun - I can play with H/H (I'm not in a guild) when I want to complete something and PUG when I want to game socially. In fact it's been a while since I played in any PUGs - I may break out my Echo SS necro or make her a MM for a bit and do so (both are really easy to play so not even really any need to focus strongly).

I highly suggest looking for a guild and strong alliance. This site has a decent enough recruiting board for guilds - peruse it and try a number of them out. There are quite a few guilds and alliances that are quite active out there and are willing to take most players as long as they are trying to play decent. The only reason I'm not in one is I realized I really only "want" from one and am not willing to give back - I don't think it is right of me to do that so I H/H anything that means something to me (they don't need me to give anything back). However there have been a few recruiting here over the years that I almost signed up for, still not sure if that was the correct decision or not.

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

All I do is help guildies/PuG's in missions or fart around with builds.

Period.

I've met many non-title/cash orientated players in game that just enjoy repeating old missions or helping others tbh.

As such yes, it is worth it and those players are around for those that take the time to look.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

I am still doing all possible quests/missions/dungeons on every character. Mostly with H/H often with friend. I think I will have quests to do till 2012.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

After getting my monk (main char) to GWAMM, I've started playing my ele. Vanquish here, dungen there, cap an elite here - and she already has 10 titles maxed. Ofcourse, I don't play as much as I used to, but guild and alliance make it fun and enjoyable.

Chokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

[ToA]

Yeah, loads of people still do dungeons and the like. If you can't get a group,go poke a friend out of hibernation and drag them along.In cases like when noone is on,I usually just chat with guildies, or even go monk Hm missions with just mending and rof(), what I'm saying is,the game is what you make it. I've been playing for two years and I'm still not bored.Gon on,innovate!

~Chokey

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
So unless I am a trader or farmer, is this game even a real game anymore?
Sure it is. I do quests and dungeons and missions all the time. I don't PUG, though, and the people who PUG don't do quests. So I think maybe I've identified your problem.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
So unless I am a trader or farmer, is this game even a real game anymore?
Yes, a real singleplayer online game (not counting pvp obv.)

While there are people who WANT to do stuff like dungeons/HM missions/vanquishing, there is no way for them to find each other. By this time they have most likely quit the game already or got bored to death playing solo H/H way, but there are still some (like myself) who WANT but can't.

Nowadays people only pug where it's fast and easy to do so - where there is a single meeting point for a highly popular activity, like UW/FoW/DoA or the recent VS farm craze.

But what about people who want to do a dungeon or vanquish an area? The current Party Search can't help them at all - people who would likely want to do the same thing are spread around the world.

There really should be a centralized LFG solution, I consider this to be the single most important thing PvE really needs.

Raven Wing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

N/

I must admit I spent the majority of my time solofarming foe cash/grinding for titles.
But last night we were 7 guildies+ a hero doing ring of fire, abaddons and hells precipice in a row. Big fun The day before most the same people did the asuran part of eotn.
I happen to be in a guild that likes to socialise while doing that.

The general problem with pugs is that they are either hopelessly incompetent or strictly disciplined and arrogant. There are almost no pugs with 3-4 good players who accept a nonperfect player anmore.

Having a global party search functin would be great

RazmO-

RazmO-

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
From the party screens, people are either farming VS (whose price has rock bottomed, so who cares) or trading.

People who are doing quests/dungeons have to rely on H/H because it has become more difficult to find a party for quests/dungeons nowadays. Elite missions are even worse.

So unless I am a trader or farmer, is this game even a real game anymore?
Get a guild? lol.
Im doing 3-4 dungeons a day , sometimes the quests as well.. just get a guild and do it.

Dunno if someone already said that , I cba to read all of the topics here^^

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

10 characters: 1 of each profession. Still haven't gotten them all though all campaigns yet.
Massive quest logs yet to clean up
Lots of titles to gain with my warrior for GWAMM

Man, this could keep me busy untill GW2 is old... (combined with a fulltime job and a pretty busy social life that is, otherwise: yes, I'd be bored too).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
While there are people who WANT to do stuff like dungeons/HM missions/vanquishing, there is no way for them to find each other. By this time they have most likely quit the game already or got bored to death playing solo H/H way, but there are still some (like myself) who WANT but can't.

But what about people who want to do a dungeon or vanquish an area? The current Party Search can't help them at all - people who would likely want to do the same thing are spread around the world.

There really should be a centralized LFG solution, I consider this to be the single most important thing PvE really needs.
Dude, look me up ingame! I need to do so much in EotN still. I also need to vanquish all 3 continents. My problem is I never know what to do online, simplky because there's TOO MUCH to do lol.

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
From the party screens, people are either farming VS (whose price has rock bottomed, so who cares) or trading.

People who are doing quests/dungeons have to rely on H/H because it has become more difficult to find a party for quests/dungeons nowadays. Elite missions are even worse.

So unless I am a trader or farmer, is this game even a real game anymore?
Absolutely, the game really became a great game with the addition of heros. I have always used hench when the game came out.

It is sad to say but, even the hench AI was better then most human players. Then when the heros came out and you could give them there own builds the game really came alive and fun to play again.

H/H 10x > then Human players and always will be.

JASON626

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

when u can beat campaigns in days, not weeks u run out of stuff to do.
A dungeon is a dungeon is a dungeon. Deep and urgoz need updates to make them fun again. We need more in game content (adventure) not pve skills and such.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

I play quests/dungeons every time I log on.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by JASON626
when u can beat campaigns in days, not weeks u run out of stuff to do.
When you beat campaigns in days not weeks, you're either being carried through the content by people who know what to do and where to go (and shortcuts), or you're following guides from guildwiki.
It's not ANets fault, or problem, that you've cheated yourself out of the content you paid for.

Trub

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
When you beat campaigns in days not weeks, you're either being carried through the content by people who know what to do and where to go (and shortcuts), or you're following guides from guildwiki.
It's not ANets fault, or problem, that you've cheated yourself out of the content you paid for.
TRUTH.

Quote:
RazmO-:Get a guild? lol.
Im doing 3-4 dungeons a day , sometimes the quests as well.. just get a guild and do it.

Dunno if someone already said that , I cba to read all of the topics here^^
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