Top 3 Least Popular Classes

Richardt

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According to this thread....looks like my Alliance runs with all the unwanted classes

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Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
I think this is a very limited view... dragon slash/save yourselves has great damage, party support, and can hold aggro. Warriors are not limited to tanks, hell tanks are about the worst use a warrior can have. As well as this there is insane AoE that can be done using Axe, Triple Chop, Cyclone and Whirlwind are all pretty good. Earth Shaker spam is also bloody brilliant as well. AoE Knockdown is pretty good no matter what you think. Finally axes are still good, and eviscerate is still sick..
I think you missed the sarcasm in my comments there but perhaps it was less obvious than intended. Still, I wasn't being all sarcastic because I really am sad about being bored with playing my warrior cause it didn't use to be that way. I do get the impression that you are more of a pvp player and I am more of a pve player and I do know warriors do a lot more in pvp although I find the warrior builds rather the same...shock warrior anyone? Oh everyone...


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Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
Have u read Racthoths guide about the imbagon... its basically use skills 1-6 on recharge, and use battle standard of honor assuming dark fury is up. Rits theres nothing to them really. Channeling is a weak ele wannabe. Communing is long dead. Restoration Magic is better used by a necro. But still its easy. With spirits, put them up not mobbed so that aoe wont kill em all, with resto its basic heals, monks are better. Finally communing... its dead, dont go there.
Talk about a limited view. I never really cared about this whole imbagon thing, so no I never read that. I agree with the communion but that's about it. The necro rit, just like the ranger toucher are basically some of the biggest mistakes in the game. Anet never got those primaries right. Still my Rit doesn't run out of energy that quick anyway.

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Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
Ranger is not boring, its so versatile. Can have really nice damage output, superb shutdown, tank, either itself or through a pet, use any other weapon in the game effectively, trap, spirit spam better then a rit (oath shot), the list goes on. Ele i agree, is boring. Warrior I appreciate their usefulness, and their fun, but i simply cbf to grind one through pve.
My comment was purely subjective. I said that rangers bore me...I didn't say they were boring for everyone. I never liked them that much, but many others do and that's fine. And warrior I used to like but I've found that when I put a party together the warrior is the last thing I have need of.

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Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
In pve anything works, even in HM. With careful aggro and smart players of course its gonna work. Does that mean its better then a monk... not really. The other problem with rits is that weapons spells can only have one up at a time, and also only 1 spirit. Which means that the utility of the rits is limited, eg if ur elite is spirit light weapon, the other cant really bring weapon of warding because they cancel each other out. Well, not cant its just rather clumsy.
As I mentioned, I feel most people don't understand Ritualists. There can be only one weapon spell up at a time PER PERSON, and they cannot be removed. Those elements are both important. And yes it takes a bit more thought to use them right...that was my point, they are a bit trickier to get good at.
I never said that one is better than the other anyway but a Rit works different as a healer than a monk. Whenever you compare classes as in simple DPS or healing per spell or second you forget that a class is more than that. Ritualist healers have a few more options in restoration that make them more versatile than monks. I for example killed Shiro with my restoration Rit in Gate of Madness on my own. Also that same Rit helped another PuG and I was able to ress my silly team mates who rushed in and got themselves killed by being stupid and I was able to ress them all while being attacked by Shiro. Haven't seen any monks do that.
So does a monk, purely looking at healing, heal more points than a Rit? I haven't seen the stats but possibly. Does that alone make a monk the best choice in a team? Hardly.

At the end of the day all I know from experience is that my Rit does well in pve and pvp and all I see here is a lot of assumptions and claims without anything to support these claims. When you build a team with 2 monks as healers you build the team around it. You cannot simply replace them with 2 Rits and then expect them to function the same. You'll have to rework the team for the synergy. So yeah I think people can say that Rits aren't that popular but the idea that they are simply crap is laughable.

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I cannot believe people are saying that Para's suck

Para's.. I don't leave without one, especially in PvE!

I personally HATE WITH A PASSION Dervish's that "tank" (sorry to you dervish fanatics) but that's not their job... what is their job ;O?

the mad farmers with skirts are cool enough in pvp, but the only time I use them in pve is for orders

so yeah - Dervish :x

Tyla

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The job of a Dervish is to deal incredible amounts of damage.

Ruby Lightheart

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Well personally I dont see why everyone is hating on the Ritualists and Paragons. I have both and am extremely happy with them. The trick with them is that both need to specialize between damage dealer or support healing/protection. Builds for them which are part damage and part support do not work all that well as the effective ness is weakened. Without specialization with these two especially they are ineffective.

As for female rangers, yes I have noticed a large number of rangers are men. There was a time when rangers were considered an ineffective class, chosen only when interrupts were needed. With the improvements made to the mesmer class a while ago, interrupt rangers werent needed as much and it dropped more when the interrupt henchie was introduced (Zho). What many dont realize is the ranger can be a massive damage dealer as well as an AOE dealer when outfitted with certain skills and secondary professions. Another reason female rangers are not that common is..well...the visual options for them stink. Female rangers and female mesmers, didnt get the sexy look that the female paragons and eles got and even female assasin and monk look cutier.

Anyhow thats my input..flame away

HawkofStorms

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The Dervishes job is to spam Wounding Strike on recharge.... clearly. Once/if that gets nerfed... umm Avatar of Melendru?

And nobody (well a few people are) are saying "paragons suck." They are just saying paragons are unpopular (which they are) and that they are boring to play (to most people they are, including me).

Edit: Are you kidding? Female rangers are EVERYWHERE. That little strip tease dance they have and their 15k Druids which was worn by everybody prior to factions was very popular. Heck, everybody got away with wearing the skimpyist outfit possible by justifying in their mind "well, +energy IS the most useful armor bonus"
On the other hand, male rangers are kinda cool with their trenchcoats (except for a couple male ele armors, nobody else has that really) and a lot of people want to be Legolas (who really looks more like a girl... anyways)

R_Frost

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i love playing my Mesmer and Rit in PvE, matter of fact both are triple protectors. only my Mesmer has ventured into EoTN. maybe someday my Rit will get to venture into EoTN but im currently busy with other goals in game. my 3 least popular classes are Dervish, Warrior and Paragon. i still havent gotten the feel for the Dervish even though mine is in the process of beating tyria,elona and cantha. my paragon is in the same boat as the dervish. i guess after playing a ranger so much i just cant get the feel for the paragon. my warrior has beaten all 3 games and is just a pack mule with 3 titles. i would rather play an assassin before playing a warrior or dervish. i have more fun with the pop in, spike and retreat of the sin or hanging back protecting the squishy casters while they bring on the mass damage.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by V E R A T T A View Post
Ritualists and mesmers rule wtf you guys talking about

i'm not sure if this is sarcastic, but oh well.

that's not the point of the thread. it's not the 3 least useful/effective classes, it's least popular.

that being said...i'd say it's

1) Ritualist
2) Mesmer
3) Dervish or Paragon

Zahr Dalsk

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Originally Posted by Tyla View Post
The job of a Dervish is to deal incredible amounts of damage.
:S Then why do Assassins do that so much better?

Accursed

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1. Mesmer
2. Ritualist
3. Dervish/Paragon

Too many people think these three profession suck, but they've never really used them in High-End PvE/PvP.

Silicon Based

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stop guessing about the least popular classes and look here for HARD FACTS:

www.gwchars.de

Unreal Havoc

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Nice site, that doesn't represent the entire community though, and not everyone may have put up all their characters yet.

N1ghtstalker

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mesmer
assassin (for general PvE use)
rit (unfortunatly, cuz they're packing serious power)

Rothan Celt

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Rts are pretty lameass just Necro/monk combined.

EPO Bot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silicon Based View Post
stop guessing about the least popular classes and look here for HARD FACTS:

www.gwchars.de
So many monks, and yet there are never enough. Something must be done about the over-relyance on monks.

daze

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Originally Posted by Kagome View Post
I never liked the ritualist because I don't think its really original. Its pretty much a necromancer/mesmer gone wrong...

I hope they are cut in GW2 because they are so unpopular now and we have enough spellcasters.
Wow why all the Rit hate.. I love my rit, they are very powerful. And N/Rt healers are taking over the jobs of Monks.

I guess Rits are like paragons. if you dont know how to use them, you dont like them. Spirit rift can be the biggest ouch spell in the game. Ive seen HM enemies take out my whole backline with one spirit rife in one hit.,

idicious

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In my guild I'd say Warrior and Dervish.

Generally for pugs etc mesmers, paragon and ritualist (love all 3 personally)

Cab Tastic

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As I mentioned earlier, the biggest damage dealer in the game is a bow wielding splinter/barrage rit.

if I was forming a party I could find a spot for a rit with the above build.

Silicon Based

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc View Post
Nice site, that doesn't represent the entire community though, and not everyone may have put up all their characters yet.
But at least www.gwchars.de is a more objective sample then the wild guessing most people have come up with in this thread so far.

Rexion

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to be EXACT....

3. Dervish
2. Female Assassins
1. Male Mesmer

Clarissa F

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rexion View Post
to be EXACT....

3. Dervish
2. Female Assassins
1. Male Mesmer
This.

Every time I see a male mesmer, I feel like I saw Bigfoot.

Liam016

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I'd have to Say:
  • Male Paragons
    Male Mesmers
    Rits

Age

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silicon Based View Post
For some solid objective statistics on nearly 60,000 GW players and their characters look here:

http://www.gwchars.de

Here you can seen that out of 58680 characters:

3622 are Ritualist (6.5% of characters)
3382 are Mesmers (6.1%)
2896 are Paragon (5.2%)

BTW the most popular are:
Monk (14.9%)
Warrior (14.1%)
Elementalist (13.9%)

Remember, popularity doesn't mean good or bad character. mesmer, rit and para are just as goos as all other characters, they just require a bit more thinking/learning to appreciate their skills. I could imagine, and this is speculative, that a mojority of the popular classes are played by the younger players, whereas the ones on the bottom of the list are played by mature players. Unfortunately www.gwchars.de doesn't give statistics on the age of the players
It is because they Rule

Monk (14.9%)
Warrior (14.1%)
Elementalist (13.9%)

I would say Ritualist,Ritualist and Paragon.I am seeing more Mesmers being played.

Genius Was Revrac

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My main is a Ritualist w/27 pve titles and workin on my last 3

(drunkard,sweet,party). I have over 3000 hours on my ritualist but also 3000

hours distributed between my monk,ele,sin,ranger. I just wanted to comment

on the Ritualist class as it has come up many times in this thread. I think

that the Ritualists best days are behind him(Un-nerf Splinter Weapon for PvE

A-net PLZ) even though Ritualists can still be very effectve as long as you

work on pve skills to augment what i find as a disturbingly long line of

lackluster Rit Elites. As of right now the main thing Rits can do effectively is

farm smites in UW+ 600 dungeon's(plz refer to RezDog's thread on Rit

farming). Also they make fairly effective Support damage dealers through

Spirit Strength+Splinter Weapon+Iam the Strongest+By Urals

Hammer+Volley. This combination does roughly 312 damage to the 3

adjacent targets and 150+ to the primary target. When combined with a

Spirit Rift before the volley, it can make the spike rise to 400+ on 3 targets. I

can only imagine the damage that a Ritualist could do with an un-nerfed

Splinter weapon+ the pve skills i listed. As far as healing is concerned im

afraid that Ritualists just lack the energy management that a necro/rit has

and lacks the pure outright healing and protection of a monk. In conclusion i

believe that ritualist is still fun as it could be. All they need is to add some

more spirits, make the activation times reduced by a second, add some Elites

that when combined with a spirit build can actually be effective, un-nerf

Splinter Weapon, And for the LOVE of GoD make OoS a 1energy cast to

counter the Necro/Rit. Then again who really cares about Rits anymore.

Expherious

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Least popular is kinda harsh I'd say "misunderstood"
not alot of people play mesmers because they are generally hard to play, ritualists imo are like a pvp minion master, i dont have a problem with them and personally like to play em(they look cool, move cool and are quite versatile) and paragons are like if guild wars had a noob button it would look like [PARAGON] paragons are sweet and it would be a shame to see them go

ag3ntblak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagome View Post
I never liked the ritualist because I don't think its really original. Its pretty much a necromancer/mesmer gone wrong...

I hope they are cut in GW2 because they are so unpopular now and we have enough spellcasters.
They're not exactly spell casters, they work much differently. I have both rit and a mez characters and have found them to be very effective. The only problem is knowing how to use them properly. I'd say my mesmer is one of my most powerful characters, no joke. I completed Thunderhead Keep with my mesmer and henchmen only before the other campaigns came out at Lvl 14. They quite powerful, you just have to have good reflexes, be a quick thinker, and know your skillset. It's not for everyone, but underused usually means underestimated and not understood.

Wefta

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I actually see every single type of primary profession in PVP, and in PVE outposts. Heres my list of rarest seen professions seen:
- Paragons
- Warriors (surprisingly)
- Mesmers

Dr.Jones

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why dosnt a moderater add a poll to this...
anyhow myen are
sin
mesmer
ranger
those are mostly the professions i dont play though i am starting to play my sin more and more.

Pleikki

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Jones View Post
why dosnt a moderater add a poll to this...
Cus it asks 3 least popular classes, it would have too much options..

Laughing Bat

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarissa F View Post
This.

Every time I see a male mesmer, I feel like I saw Bigfoot.
Well I do have big feet.

lol would of made a female mesmer but I'd rather have "flamboyent" armor then to be asked to be some weirdo's online gf everytime I'm in an outpost. At least we have pants!

Besides we all know the 3 least popular classes are noobs, rage quitters, and leeroys.

Dr.Jones

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki View Post
Cus it asks 3 least popular classes, it would have too much options..
aw i thought this forum code had better poll options.

Taisayacho

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Warrior
Ranger
Monk

nah but srsly, in PvE:
Mesmer
Rit
Sin or Para

germanturkey

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playing as my para the last few days, i can't see why they're so hated. they're rather fun to play as but it does take some understanding to use them correctly.

Dr.Jones

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Originally Posted by germanturkey View Post
playing as my para the last few days, i can't see why they're so hated. they're rather fun to play as but it does take some understanding to use them correctly.
i wouldnt say hated i think if any class is hated it would be the sin because 80% of the time its a noob who thinks a sin can tank. the sooner noobs realize that sins are a hit and run class the better....

cosyfiep

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think maybe we should just change the title to 'most misunderstood class'

all the rit hate is because people cant be arsed to learn how to play them well and people keep saying warrior is the easiest to play (not to mention one of the core classes and maybe why there are so many in game---)

as for the poster who says I am wasting slots----that is not my rits or mesmers that is my sin, dervish and warrior quite honestly, they are a waste of space in my character slots which is why they are MULES--they are VERY good at that!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Jones View Post
i wouldnt say hated i think if any class is hated it would be the sin because 80% of the time its a noob who thinks a sin can tank. the sooner noobs realize that sins are a hit and run class the better....
i was talking about paragon? :P

sins can tank, its just depends on what build you choose to use.

Master Ketsu

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Male Mesmers are FABULOUS

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
all the rit hate is because people cant be arsed to learn how to play them well and people keep saying warrior is the easiest to play (not to mention one of the core classes and maybe why there are so many in game---)
Seconded, rits are awesome, their entire skillset is grossly underestimated.
And warriors are NOT easy to play. Even if you suck at them their solid armor and auto-dps still get you somewhere, but most players I know don't play their warrior for the fullest 100%.

My least popular classes are:
-assassin, so one-dimensional, not very versatile, and squishy in PvE, the damage is alright though, but 3 campaigns of moebius/db gets OLD.
-Paragon, because they're utterly boring damage turrets, awesome class for a hero though.
-Monk, a very deep, interesting class, but I just suck at playing one. My mindset wants to smash stuff, not fix it.

Seri

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I play mesmer and i love playin them because it does require finesse and skill. I like rits(most of the time) but playin as a rit and joining a pug is annoying. First question "RIT DO U HEAL ?" ugh theres so much more to rits then heal but thats all they get used for. Paragons just annoy me. But for me 3 least popular classes would be the 3 melee classes because 1. Most noobs start with melee and 2. I like classes with more finesse like mesmer XD

BadgerznPie

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagome View Post
I think they are Ritualist, Paragon, and Mesmer. D: I never see them!
What are these professions you speak of? Yeah. They don't suck. They're just misunderstood! >_>