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Ravious

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N/Mo

23 Sep 2008 at 11:39 - 1

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/44744

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Ten Ton Hammer: Are we going to see more announcements of big AAA titles in the next few months?

David: We do have Aion coming out for a NC West release in 2009, and Aion - make no mistake - is cut from the same cloth as Lineage and Guild Wars. We have publicly announced Guild Wars 2 in the past, and you can probably expect that in 2009 we'll talk more about it. We're also going to be discussing taking some of these titles that have really been PC only sort of clients thus far and taking them out to other platforms.

/sadpanda

own age myname

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23 Sep 2008 at 12:13 - 2

That sucks, I was hoping Anet would announce something at Christmas for a present.

Kattar

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23 Sep 2008 at 12:21 - 3

Meh, can't say I'm surprised really.

Nothing much else to say.

Orange Milk

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Retired

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23 Sep 2008 at 12:21 - 4

Beta in 09'
GW2 in 10'
Shit loads of other good games being released between now and then.

Horus

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23 Sep 2008 at 12:38 - 5

and they said GW2 will have beta in late 08'

hehe, not even any info out in 2008...

GW2 info 09'
GW2 beta: late '09/early 10'
GW2 release: summer 10'

Zidane Ortef

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23 Sep 2008 at 12:50 - 6

They can't hold out that long. They have competition with Blizzards Wrath of the Lich King, Starcart, and Diablo 3. Funcom's Age of Conan, and there might be one more that I cant think of off the top of my head. In a previous update they stated that they moved 8-9 members off of GW2 back to the GW1 team.

What time do you slack of team member. I'm sure that they have GW2 pretty much setup and ready to roll just fixes some minor things. With all the competition they have I see a info in 2009 which is only about 3 months away, beta Q1 or Q2, and a release in Q2-Q3. Unless they start doing some major updates to GW1 it will not last the time span. GW1 is already slowly dieing out for those who have had the game for 2-3+ years all we have is title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs and Elite areas and goof off on professions that we don't normally play.

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

23 Sep 2008 at 12:57 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zidane Ortef

What time do you slack of team member. I'm sure that they have GW2 pretty much setup and ready to roll just fixes some minor things.

No.

They were doing concept art barely before EOTN came out, and after EOTN came out, just started actual graphic and texture making. They are nowhere near done.

Ravious

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N/Mo

23 Sep 2008 at 13:05 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

No.

They were doing concept art barely before EOTN came out, and after EOTN came out, just started actual graphic and texture making. They are nowhere near done.

How do you know this?

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

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N/Mo

23 Sep 2008 at 13:06 - 9

I expected that and I'm not really surprised, yet can't say I'm not disappointed to see it confirmed. Come on, there's more info, videos, screenshots and whatnot on D3 - which has been officially announced a short while back - than on GW2... I find it rather sad that ANet is pushing information to 2009. (But yet it was expected).

Ah well, I'll have other games to play if I get -really- bored of GW.

FoxBat

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Mo/Me

23 Sep 2008 at 13:11 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zidane Ortef

They can't hold out that long. They have competition with Blizzards Wrath of the Lich King, Starcart, and Diablo 3. Funcom's Age of Conan, and there might be one more that I cant think of off the top of my head. In a previous update they stated that they moved 8-9 members off of GW2 back to the GW1 team.

AoC is already dying, no-one is going to care about Lich King in 2010, Starcraft is not competition in the PvE (majority) market. It's not really even competition in the PvP sector because it's just another RTS, wheras GW still has nothing comparable. D3 is the only competition in the "fee-less online RPG time waster" category and is likely to be delayed to just as late a release.

Really. Anet doesn't mind if you play other games in the meantime. They know 95% of their customers will come back to check GW2 out, because it's not like you have to commit to a fee. That was the whole point of their expansion-based business model.

Darcy

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23 Sep 2008 at 13:31 - 11

GW has been out for over three years and new people are still buying it. Why? - NO PAY TO PLAY. This is still the biggest draw to new players. It will still be a draw for GW2, maybe GW3 or as far as ANet wants to take it.

I don't think either ArenaNet or NCSoft are worried about a lack of customers. What they are worried about is making sure the game works before releasing it. Look at the complaints about the new releases for the past year - unfinished, not enough content, broken system, doesn't have this, doesn't have that, too much grind, level too fast, not worth the monthly fee. While ANet knows that there will be plenty of moaning no matter how great GW2 is in the end, they want to make sure that the game satisfies most of their customer base. They did state that the "beta" would take place very close to the release of the game.

So announcements in 2009 might mean beta in 2009 and possibly the game by April 2010. Nothing like traditional anniversary dates. And this is all speculation, but it is fun.

viper11025

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23 Sep 2008 at 13:31 - 12

This was suspected and confirmed a long time ago....
I expect them not to say anything until Aion has had it's share, WoW:WLK, WAR, and LOTRO's expansion + D3, are done having thier pie.
XD
No beta....GM's said so, a long time ago.
>.>

creelie

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Mo/

23 Sep 2008 at 13:42 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

I don't think either ArenaNet or NCSoft are worried about a lack of customers. What they are worried about is making sure the game works before releasing it. Look at the complaints about the new releases for the past year - unfinished, not enough content, broken system, doesn't have this, doesn't have that, too much grind, level too fast, not worth the monthly fee. While ANet knows that there will be plenty of moaning no matter how great GW2 is in the end, they want to make sure that the game satisfies most of their customer base.

This.

Remember that ANet was mostly headhunted from Blizzard. They know about polish. No baby of theirs will be heading out into the world without being buffed to a mirror shine. And while the wait makes me sad, I look forward to seeing the finished product.

DarkNecrid

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23 Sep 2008 at 14:01 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravious

How do you know this?

They've talked about it before (on wiki talk pages, etc.)

Plus if the game was anywhere near completion, they'd release info by now.

Their marketing department isn't stupid.

fenix

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23 Sep 2008 at 14:05 - 15

Is anyone ACTUALLY surprised about this?

They have 2 years till release, give or take, and it's ANet. Needless to say GW2 will both suck and blow at the same time, and will fail vs other games.

Nessar

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Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

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23 Sep 2008 at 15:21 - 16

Not surprised what so ever. I think anet knows what they are doing...

Still sad for no beta this year though :/

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

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23 Sep 2008 at 15:46 - 17

Not surprised.

But... umm... they DON'T actually say they won't say anything about GW2 in 2008, just that they will be saying stuff about it in 2009.

They still might give some teaser info. It just means the majority of the info won't be out until later (no surprsing, the game is still a far ways away).

But seriously, stop misreading/misinterpresting things. That's the biggest thing that gets the GW's community in trouble.

The number of times I've seen Galie/Regina say "we will NOT have feature x, y and z" followed by posts saying "OMG GW is going to have feature x, y, and z" followed by "OMG they won't have feature x, y, and z, they lied to us" is asstounding. Reading comprehension PLEASE.

Ravious

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N/Mo

23 Sep 2008 at 16:27 - 18

I agree that it is possible that they could drop a teaser before the end of 2008, and that's why I added the weasel-word "likely" to the subject.

But, the guy's answer... even if you have to extrapolate... seem like a pretty safe bet that no information not pertaining to Aion their next "AAA title" will be released in 2008.

It is sad though that the only recent thing I have heard about GW2 is Jeff Grubb, their freakin' writer (one of them anyway), saying the game was a beautiful thing and anything that takes them away from it (re PAX) was not a good thing.

In response to the post about all the other games, IMHO, Warhammer Online is going to be GW2 biggest competitor. GW2 will still have GvG as its crown jewel, but WAR has Keeps. WAR is PvP-focused and does not require much time to play. WAR has Public Quests to GW2's "events." I think ANet probably is really interested to see how WAR plays out before launching their hype machine, which could seriously overlap with WAR's features.

Ellix Cantero

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23 Sep 2008 at 16:45 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

GW has been out for over three years and new people are still buying it. Why? - NO PAY TO PLAY. This is still the biggest draw to new players. It will still be a draw for GW2, maybe GW3 or as far as ANet wants to take it.

I don't think either ArenaNet or NCSoft are worried about a lack of customers. What they are worried about is making sure the game works before releasing it. Look at the complaints about the new releases for the past year - unfinished, not enough content, broken system, doesn't have this, doesn't have that, too much grind, level too fast, not worth the monthly fee. While ANet knows that there will be plenty of moaning no matter how great GW2 is in the end, they want to make sure that the game satisfies most of their customer base. They did state that the "beta" would take place very close to the release of the game.

So announcements in 2009 might mean beta in 2009 and possibly the game by April 2010. Nothing like traditional anniversary dates. And this is all speculation, but it is fun.

Congratulations, you win the thread. Anet has always been good about releasing a product that works out of the box, even if they add most of the polish over time.

They would probably prefer that not every person who has ever bought a GW chapter play all the time non-stop, since they'd have to run a lot more servers which would not be offset by more monthly fees being collected.

I think anet has done an incredible job with Guild Wars, and I will happily play it here and there until GW2 is ready to go. There have been too many franchises ruined by poorly done sequals (Unreal Tournament comes to mind). I'd just as soon they take however long they need to get things right before releasing.

Michiko Miko

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23 Sep 2008 at 16:48 - 20

As long as they are actively working on gw2 and listening to the customer's reviews and input, I dont mind the wait. I think even most of the people who q.q and say they rage quit and wont even check out GW2, will check it at some point. The curiosity bug bites hard.

I also have my eye on AION. Looks promising. I would love if GW2 had a nice character creation as interesting as AION's looks on the trailer.

I will keep playing gw1 for as long as I am entertained there and have friends playing with me. GW2 will be checked as well unless Anet does something really outrageous that makes me lose total faith in the company.

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

23 Sep 2008 at 18:43 - 21

Eh dosn't really mean much. We already know GW2 will not be till next year or so. Dosn't mean stuff isn't plained for this year. well just have to wait.

I MP I

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Mo/

23 Sep 2008 at 19:10 - 22

No surprise really. I'm still waiting on my Aion beta invite. ZzZzzZZzz

Jiao Yang

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23 Sep 2008 at 19:11 - 23

Aion is going to be hot chicken.

Dr Strangelove

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23 Sep 2008 at 19:33 - 24

It'll be out when it's out. Go play something else in the meantime.

Snow Bunny

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23 Sep 2008 at 20:41 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Is anyone ACTUALLY surprised about this?

They have 2 years till release, give or take, and it's ANet. Needless to say GW2 will both suck and blow at the same time, and will fail vs other games.

I will be playing my entire iTunes library on Audiosurf instead of GW2.

Arkantos

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23 Sep 2008 at 20:45 - 26

Like many others, not surprised at all. Don't really care either.

gremlin

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Me/Mo

23 Sep 2008 at 20:46 - 27

There is of course a downside to them announcing anything about game content for GW2.
Other game manufacturers get to copy the ideas and come out first with a game.
Its why most companies don't release details of new products much before the launch date.

Some_guy

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Over There

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23 Sep 2008 at 20:48 - 28

I, as a noob who has only been playing for 2 months, finds this as a sigh of relief. I have done very little with this game in the overall scheme of things (I don't even have EotN yet), and I was getting rather worried that by the time i get in the grove of things and will be able to do pretty much anything I want, everyone will leave for GW2.

Consider the noobs.. all of us still want to play the game without it dieing completely before we even contemplate moving on.

Arkantos

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23 Sep 2008 at 20:56 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Some_guy

I, as a noob who has only been playing for 2 months, finds this as a sigh of relief. I have done very little with this game in the overall scheme of things (I don't even have EotN yet), and I was getting rather worried that by the time i get in the grove of things and will be able to do pretty much anything I want, everyone will leave for GW2.

Consider the noobs.. all of us still want to play the game without it dieing completely before we even contemplate moving on.

Releasing information != Releasing game

The game will be released when ready, and information being released isn't going to affect the release. You have well over a year to play the game, don't worry about it.

Dr.Jones

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23 Sep 2008 at 21:02 - 30

Quote:

We're also going to be discussing taking some of these titles that have really been PC only sort of clients thus far and taking them out to other platforms.

guild wars on a xbox360 or ps3 LOLOLOLOLOLOL
actually being able to play on a xbox 360 or ps3 would be sweet though i hope they would make the controls in such a way that it would eather support a keyboard and mouse or make it so you don't lose any compatibility so they can join the pc world in playing.

Solas

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23 Sep 2008 at 21:05 - 31

If it does come in 09 i do hope it'd be July, as doing my final year in secondary school and can't really have many distractions><

Cale Roughstar

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23 Sep 2008 at 21:56 - 32

Le sigh...

They really did announce it too early if they cant even give us any information a year after its initial announcement.

illidan009

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23 Sep 2008 at 22:03 - 33

Guess we still have a lot of time to grind a bunch of titles...I really hope they're worth something in GW2 otherwise all the poor kids would QQ

Operative 14

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23 Sep 2008 at 22:59 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar

Le sigh...

They really did announce it too early if they cant even give us any information a year after its initial announcement.

Or two years for that matter. :/

Shadow

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23 Sep 2008 at 23:08 - 35

I predict we will never hear about GW2 again, including before and after release. The less you know it exists, the more you want it.

Lothlorian Sassun

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Dragonestos

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23 Sep 2008 at 23:22 - 36

The only reason we know that GW2 will be coming out AT ALL is the fact that they had to halt GW1's 6 month campaign release model. They had to tell us why they were not going to have any more GW campaigns and that reason was GW2. If GW2 was just another MMO release ANET would not have even announced GW2 was even going to be a game until it was closer to release. Telling people about something to far in advance makes people start threads like this one.

Sir Seifus Halbred

Wilds Pathfinder

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23 Sep 2008 at 23:48 - 37

Very disappointing, but still may not be true, or change in the future...

meh..

Arkantos

The Greatest

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24 Sep 2008 at 00:39 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed

If it does come in 09 i do hope it'd be July, as doing my final year in secondary school and can't really have many distractions><

It's September 2008 and we have pretty much no information. There's no way the release is going to be June 2009.

Quote:

I predict we will never hear about GW2 again, including before and after release. The less you know it exists, the more you want it.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather buy a game that I know information on than buy a game I have no information on. Generally the former let's me know I'm spending money on something I'll like.

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

24 Sep 2008 at 03:55 - 39

They originally expected GW2 to have a beta at the end of this year. I think what pushed that back was that WAR got pushed back and they are similar. They were probably hoping WAR would get released in spring like planned so that all their employees could play through it and find out what worked in RvR and such that they are also planning and how to improve upon it. With the delay to WAR, they don't know what to build upon to make GW2 better and had to forge their own way a bit. So I think it is possible we will get the beta in spring or summer with a release that fall or winter.

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

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24 Sep 2008 at 04:30 - 40

I'm not surprised this is the case with GW2. I only have one thing I care about regarding GW2 and that's if the amount of "pop culture" references will be insane much like EotN contains.