The future of GW

Axis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

White Redeemers

N/Me

... is bright!

Afther trying out different online games the past few years i realised how much Im looking forward to GW2.

AoC promised a lot, but failed to deliver. It has still great potencial but it will take long time before the game deliveres.

Lotr is a fun pve game, but I miss the pvp!

WoW... no comment, not my type of game.

Warhammer... havent tryed it yet, but the combat system looks a bit slow and I feel its kind of WoW2. Im maybe going to buy it this weekend and try it out.

What do you think?

What do you think?
Aion is not out yet, but the fighting reminds me of Final Fantasy where you attack in rounds. The game also looks too asian... and there is a reason that many asian games fail in Europe/America

What I love about GW is the skills/combat system and the pvp, which is probably the best when it comes to fantasy games.

Horus

Horus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

www.godtguild.com

Blades Of Burning Shadows [GoDT]-leader

Mo/

tried several other MMORPG's myself too and ach time returned to GW in not really long time. Yep, played GW too much and got used to it so much that it's hard to change and get used to something so new. Looking forward to GW2 really

fleshharvest

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

A/W

All of the new mmos are a huge disappointment. I bought WAR last night and I'm not impressed in the least. The pve reminds me too much of WoW, and the pvp is laughable. Eh, but that's another rant.

I'm gonna try WAR for a few more months, but I'm more than likely going to head straight back to GW.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
All of the new mmos are a huge disappointment. I bought WAR last night and I'm not impressed in the least. The pve reminds me too much of WoW, and the pvp is laughable. Eh, but that's another rant.
Let me guess - PvP is laughable, because you can't gank players 20 levels lower, outdo anyone at your level or 5+ thanks to equipment or solo 5 people at one time? Yeah, it sucks.

Won't even ask, if you tried to get to T2 or at least level 10 (although that's almost same - all my characters had access to T2 before level 12, although it's harder then). Not to mention trying to take over an enemy objective/attack a fort.

About GW - what's the future of a dead game? Rotting in the coffin.

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

gw is still the best mmo imho even if it is old.....bring on the ice age, bout damn time to!

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

I think the real problem is that all mmo or coop online games by now have a "been there done that" feeling for experienced players.

All that can be new in a game is where you going to "been" and how you are going to "done that."

Add in targeting of new games to younger players, with cross platform to consoles, and you get games that do not require much of a learning curve or attention span. You get to "done that" a lot sooner.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guild Wars 1 has been dead a long time, but, you still have the dedicated and those that are in what do they call it? Oh Denial that just won't let a dead horse lie.

When they see the grind in GW2 they will be a screaming you can bet as that is the path that GW is now on and will take. Out with the old and in with the new and NCsoft/Arena Net are banking on more regular mmo players to play GW2 than the casuals of GW1.

At any rate Anarchy Online and Notum wars is FREE now if you want something different to play for awhile.

fleshharvest

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
Let me guess - PvP is laughable, because you can't gank players 20 levels lower, outdo anyone at your level or 5+ thanks to equipment or solo 5 people at one time? Yeah, it sucks.
I play a Witch Elf, level 6 as of last night. The pvp is laughable so far, because it's bad mechanics all around. Any game that lets you use consumables [potions/etc] during pvp is not skill based. I spent most of last night RvR. Half the time I can't even tell if my attacks hit unless I look for little yellow numbers because my witch elf is swinging in thin air and the person is off to my side. The melee, to me, feels clunky and not well thought out. And I'm seriously jonesing for c-space auto-attacking, where you follow the target. Then there's the whole "TARGET NOT IN RANGE" spam at the top. Yes, I understand that they're not in range, but maybe you should give your melee classes some decent speed boosts or a snare. I'm sure it's because I'm in Tier 1, that it feels like a brainless hack and slash, since I don't have any skills yet. However, I don't believe I'm going to get much out of it, even at higher levels.

Targeting is another issue. I'll be damned if I didn't have a hard time clicking on an enemy that was surrounded by my teammates.

Yeah, I am kinda disappointed that you can't gank lower levels, but I'll deal. The equipment I'm not having that much of a problem with. I'm really not upset about not being able to solo 5 people at once. Used to it because of GW. Unless I'm shadowforming it up.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fleshharvest View Post
-snip-
Consumables do make it a bit bollocks, but at your level they give what 200-300 hp and have a 3minute cooldown so they're barely gamebreaking and everyone has easy access to them so its fair game.

As to seeing if you're attacks hit, look for your blood lust building/depleting in the centre of your skillbar.

You're only at 6 so far, so i'd imagine you probably havent got any blood lust req skills yet or morales, they add a bit more depth to melee attacks. I too was unimpressed at that level but it gets better and i'm only at 13 so far.

Witch elf does need a better snare though, but then we get shadow prowler which is funny.

Btw bind auto run off of num lock to a more usable key then use right mouse button to move as you attack, works pretty well.

Back to future of GW, more and more will "leave" the game, less and less will join. But due to the fact you can always come back the last nail won't be hit in the coffin for a while.

realtalk916

realtalk916

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

W/E

diablo 3
that'll probably be out before gw2. might wanna invest in that

WoW is a good game to me ;D long as u have friends to play with.

gw ftw. great game, not too fantasy like as u say tho

Ultima pyromancer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

Me/

Guild wars is going through the stages of MMO death.

we've already seen an eco crash, nothing is worth jack anymore so the developers try and try to introduce new gold sinks. (titles, tonics, uber rare minis) People are stupidly rich, due to PvE neglect and abuse of exploits, OP builds, dupes and obviously the fact that people have been farming for 3 and a half years

hate to say it but it's on its last legs as far as advancement is concerned. i would comment on how pvp has degenerated.. but then again the pvp has always been about copy paste 8 skills meta teams

I can see HA becoming 6v6 pretty soon, henchmen being added to elite mission outposts, 8 heroes, more lame attempts to save the game (some useless e-peen item)

Despite all this.. guild wars is far from dead. I mean its still in the top 10 of xfires most played games, and we can never tell how many people play without xfire. All people are thinking about is GW2, i say forget it.. we don't even know when its going into beta, could be another 2 years before we see it.

just my $0.02

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Really, I just wish there was more games that tried to break the mold.

I'm not going to buy WoW/LotR, etc because I already play a fantasy MMO, GW. I don't need to play 7 games with humans, dwarves, elves, etc.

Unfortunately, all the stuff that is outside the box genre wise has floped and been terrible (Auto Assault, Tabula Rasa, Hellgate London).

The only real non-fantasy MMO that is even moderately successful is EVE:Online, and that's just got way too steep of a learning curve for me to get into by now.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Only reason GW is in the "last stages of MMO death" is because...well, it's supposed to die in a year or so. There's no more content coming, so do what the game is designed to do: get put on the shelf until you feel like playing / something cool gets added. GW2 won't come any faster if you play every day. Hopefully this time they won't get surprised by their own success, and build the game so it can handle multiple large expansions in content without bloating so horribly.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

No MMO has ever really grabbed me except GW, so yes I'm definitely looking forward to GW2. I tried HG:L but just couldn't get into it, briefly tried LOTR but frankly I hate games that aren't original; i.e. taking other peoples stories and pretending its something new and different.

The only other similar game I ever got really excited by was Diablo II. With Diablo III on the horizon I would say that GW2 has a lot of competition, but having not played it yet (obviously) I'm not totally in a position to say.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

GW is dead, the devs have completely abandoned it.

GW2 will have to start from scratch so who knows what its future is, but to say its bright is somewhat premature.

ANet screwed up bigtime by not keeping its playerbase to go forward.

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

Im sure there will be some new skins, tonics, or minipet that will keep most people hooked for few more months.

Silverblad3

Silverblad3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

I use to love CB :(

Mo/

Hey Folks

I think there are too many assumptions being made, although it maybe from your experience but this is what I have read in interviews, seen and experienced.

1. We have monthly updates, it tells us that it is being supported.
2. We do have new events (wintersday in July, Pirates - Grog).
3. In the last few weeks we have seen new members who have only been playing 3 months join our guild.
4. Read in interviews that new things maybe added to GW (I have yet to see anything confirmed but I hope they do, maybe MOX was it?).
5. People keep coming back to GW.
6. Other MMOs are losing players too.

There is much going on if people want to open their eyes and look around, but some folks just like to be the doom sayers.....it is the easy option.

Silver

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

If any of the "Superhero" MMO's due out soon deliver GW2 will become a very low priority.

Still playing CoH more than GW.

Better community, better game play, obviously subscription.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

GW's genre =/= WAR's genre
nuff said

shoogi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ray

The sad thing is that even though the current GW is about 10% fun of what GW was 3 years ago, it is still by far the best mmo and the only one with a serious pvp system.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by guardian of dragon temple View Post
tried several other MMORPG's myself too and ach time returned to GW in not really long time. Yep, played GW too much and got used to it so much that it's hard to change and get used to something so new. Looking forward to GW2 really

I'm the same way, although I'm not sure of GW2 yet.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

I think that all the gloom&doom is simply due to the traditional view on MMOs that "player numbers" (even if defining this is only possible by the game company itself, not players who only see their guild/alliance/friends) have to be kept constant so that the game company can sustain its running costs via monthly fee.

GW is not like that, we don't pay anything after we've purchased the games and its additions. We're not tied to it each and every month, we can play it as we have some time in a casual manner, or still play it hardcore (see The Return of EvIl for example). In such an environment, there's no reason why the game is "dead" because there aren't many people, or the "best" players left. Maybe they'lll be back, they can because it won't cost them anything.

And yet we have week-end events, monthly updates and festivals. And yet a few players are jumping onboard the GW experience. And yet there are alliances playing elite areas and many guilds playing PvP. It may be "less" than the GW experience years ago, but it is not in the sense thatone would expect "more" content to be added because other MMOs do so.

The future of GW indeed looks bright, ArenaNet succeeded where many couldn't, GW2 development is progressing, NC West is steadily growing. Players now need a lot of patience, a very nice quality to have nowadays.

karen the healer

karen the healer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Texas

Dancing On Graves

Mo/

I still play guilds wars, but I have tried out a few other games as well in the past few months. I am looking forward to guild wars 2. Alot of the members of the guild I am in rarely sign on much these days. Many are playing warhammer online. I ended up really liking Tabala Rasa alot and play it mostly these days. But still do some pvp and special event weekends in guild wars.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

GW is getting old, that is a fact. It is still the best "MMO" on the market atm imho. I have tried AoC, WoW, and will soon probably try Warhammer due to peer pressure . But there is something about GW that always keeps bringing me back.

I agree though, Anet did drop the ball by not adding any new content with GW2 still far, far away.

Demonstar

Demonstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Shouldn't have canceled Utopia, imo.

Should have made Utopia the intro GW2. :X

Accursed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

When I played Guild Wars, I went to try different games but always came back to Guild Wars because its got me really into the game really.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

...........where do i get started??


Death
Taxes

Certainties of life.

doudou_steve

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fay Vert View Post
GW is dead, the devs have completely abandoned it for the moment.

GW2 will have to start from scratch so who knows what its future is, but to say its bright is somewhat premature.

ANet screwed up bigtime by not keeping its playerbase to go forward.
Here ya go, fixed for you.
Anet didnt screw anything, you can say they screwed big time if GW2 is
REALLY bad.

Anyway, i agree with the OP. Guild Wars will NEVER die.

wynoski

wynoski

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

In a hot spot

United Vanguard [UV]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Smile View Post
And somehow this became another "Guild Wars is dying, Doomsday, etc" thread.
I am really surprised by all this. I have been playing for 27 months and I am stil only at 22 max titles. I still have not done Sorrows furnace. I still have 8-10 other toons I want to play. Not sure why other people are bored.

granted I do not have the money to buy any new games or do subscription based MMOs, so I guess I am not going anywhere un til GW2.

When y'all leave, I'll be sitting along in Kamadan...stop by

Stuart444

Stuart444

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Alexandria, Scotland

The Charter Vanguard [CV]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverblad3 View Post
I think there are too many assumptions being made
umm, this is what I have been thinking of for the last few months, I just don't bother to mention it on here

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

Guild Wars is a lot like America's economy (I'm american, so I allow myself to make fun of my country).

It goes down down down down down.... eventually almost horrible and everyone is freaking out. Then a few years down the road, it's amazing.

own time = right now.
amazing = release of GW2

Mammoth

Mammoth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Yakslappers

Mo/Me

There's always something left to do... Still items and armors left to collect... Development might be finished for this game overall, but there's plenty there to keep me busy even since day 1 over 3 years ago...

If I get a bit bored, well, I just alternate with an MMO; EVE:Online.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wynoski View Post
I am really surprised by all this. I have been playing for 27 months and I am stil only at 22 max titles. I still have not done Sorrows furnace. I still have 8-10 other toons I want to play. Not sure why other people are bored.

granted I do not have the money to buy any new games or do subscription based MMOs, so I guess I am not going anywhere un til GW2.

When y'all leave, I'll be sitting along in Kamadan...stop by
32 months, playing 8 chars, 631 hours, no max titles. yeah, I'm not bored yet

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoogi View Post
The sad thing is that even though the current GW is about 10% fun of what GW was 3 years ago, it is still by far the best mmo and the only one with a serious pvp system.
lol that's a laugh.