The Two Player Necro Vanquish - (easyest way to vanquish imo)
Super Igor
Ok, no one posted it before me so here it is; basically it is a concept similar to the classic Sabway, but synchronized for 2 People and 6 Necro Heroes running it. Vanquished loads of stuf with it, wasl rly ez, had great fun.
"Harder" to run than discordway possibly but if you do it right it can blow up things all at once. Its main disadvantage is that you can spike down annying stuff as easily (healing bosses) as you can with Dw.
Atts & Skills:
SS Splinter
[build prof=n/rt box curses=12+1=1 chan=10 soul=8+1][spiteful spirit][barbs][mark of pain][rip enchantment][splinter weapon][ancestor's rage][signet of lost souls][death pact signet][/build]
Utility SV
[build prof=n/rt box blood=11+1+1 curse=9+1 soul=8+1 rest=8][spoil victor][strip enchantment][enfeebling blood][weaken armor][signet of lost souls][weapon of warding][blind was mingson][death pact signet][/build]
Jagged Bomber
[build prof=n/mo box death=16 soul=13 prot=3][jagged bones][putrid bile][animate shambling horror][animate bone fiend][death nova][signet of lost souls][infuse condition][foul feast][/build]
Discord Hybrid
[build prof=n/mo box death=12+1+1 prot=10 soul=8+1][discord][animate bone minions][rotting flesh][signet of lost souls][protective spirit][shield of absorption][aegis][convert hexes][/build]
Resto
[build prof=n/rt box rest=12 soul=12+1+1][xinrae's weapon][weapon of warding][protective was kaolai][mend body and soul][spirit light][signet of lost souls][life][flesh of my flesh][/build]
WoH Hybrid
[build prof=n/mo heal=12 soul=12+1+1 box][word of healing][patient spirit][heal party][dwayna's sorrow][signet of lost souls][spotless mind][cure hex][optional][/build]
"Harder" to run than discordway possibly but if you do it right it can blow up things all at once. Its main disadvantage is that you can spike down annying stuff as easily (healing bosses) as you can with Dw.
Atts & Skills:
SS Splinter
[build prof=n/rt box curses=12+1=1 chan=10 soul=8+1][spiteful spirit][barbs][mark of pain][rip enchantment][splinter weapon][ancestor's rage][signet of lost souls][death pact signet][/build]
Utility SV
[build prof=n/rt box blood=11+1+1 curse=9+1 soul=8+1 rest=8][spoil victor][strip enchantment][enfeebling blood][weaken armor][signet of lost souls][weapon of warding][blind was mingson][death pact signet][/build]
Jagged Bomber
[build prof=n/mo box death=16 soul=13 prot=3][jagged bones][putrid bile][animate shambling horror][animate bone fiend][death nova][signet of lost souls][infuse condition][foul feast][/build]
Discord Hybrid
[build prof=n/mo box death=12+1+1 prot=10 soul=8+1][discord][animate bone minions][rotting flesh][signet of lost souls][protective spirit][shield of absorption][aegis][convert hexes][/build]
Resto
[build prof=n/rt box rest=12 soul=12+1+1][xinrae's weapon][weapon of warding][protective was kaolai][mend body and soul][spirit light][signet of lost souls][life][flesh of my flesh][/build]
WoH Hybrid
[build prof=n/mo heal=12 soul=12+1+1 box][word of healing][patient spirit][heal party][dwayna's sorrow][signet of lost souls][spotless mind][cure hex][optional][/build]
DarkSpirit
As with most pvx builds, will it work? Probably. Can it be improved upon? Definitely.
Miska Bow
Been using 6 necros hero team with a friend for a while. Steamrolled trought Faction HM vanquishing all of it with it.
Yes its awsome.
No it aint new.
Please dont try to take credit for some stuff thats been around for a while.
Yes its awsome.
No it aint new.
Please dont try to take credit for some stuff thats been around for a while.
Tyla
Still prefer Discordway. With an N/A by your side abusing PvE skills and Assassin's Promise, an enemy dies every one, maybe three seconds.
Lyynyyrd
I was using six Necro heroes like a year ago.
I DEMAND FAME.
I DEMAND FAME.
Calista Blackblood
yes someone who can combine sabway+discordway,add a hybrid healer and maybe 5 skills max that weren't in the original builds,and put it on a wiki deserves lots of fame
DarkSpirit
That restoration bar would hardly see Xinrae's being cast unless maybe the healer runs extremely low in energy.
Only 1 spirit (i.e. Life which has a lifespan of 20s maxed), without it Spirit Light would sac and MBaS would lose condition removal. You can do better than that with 6 heroes. Only 2 res?
Strip Enchantment has a long recharge, should have used Rip Enchantment instead or even Desecrate Enchantments.
Would have problems in low corpse areas. Especially with Infuse Condition. The rest are meh.
Not that I want to rain on anybody's parade but I have to hold to a higher standard for a 6 heroes build because 3-heroes+henchies should be strong enough to be used in most areas even in HM. 6 heroes, on the other hand, are for elite missions.
Only 1 spirit (i.e. Life which has a lifespan of 20s maxed), without it Spirit Light would sac and MBaS would lose condition removal. You can do better than that with 6 heroes. Only 2 res?
Strip Enchantment has a long recharge, should have used Rip Enchantment instead or even Desecrate Enchantments.
Would have problems in low corpse areas. Especially with Infuse Condition. The rest are meh.
Not that I want to rain on anybody's parade but I have to hold to a higher standard for a 6 heroes build because 3-heroes+henchies should be strong enough to be used in most areas even in HM. 6 heroes, on the other hand, are for elite missions.
TalanRoarer
wtb new ideas.
Kyomi Tachibana
Quite a few of those, if not most, 'Spartan' builds are quite bad.
And yes, surprise, surprise, people have been running things like this for quite awhile.
And yes, surprise, surprise, people have been running things like this for quite awhile.
obsidian ectoplasm
Grats for being able to have the same ideas as most people
Luminarus
I prefer sabway, + monk hero, ele hero, paragon hero, but thats just me.
That and i dont like 6 necros... they piss me off ><
That and i dont like 6 necros... they piss me off ><
-Lotus-
lose the SV and discord for paragons. it needs more damage.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by -Lotus-
lose the SV and discord for paragons. it needs more damage.
SV IS the damage. And armor ignoring too.
-Lotus-
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
SV IS the damage. And armor ignoring too.
Its a 55 team then is it?
dont try to tell me that SV does more damage than a physical.
dont try to tell me that SV does more damage than a physical.
spun ducky
Its these sorta things that make me not really care for wiki and when I want to share a build I share it here. I have found quite a few people just rip other's builds on there or do tweaks to already existing well known builds such as this case. I do agree it works but it has plenty of room to be improved upon along with I think discord 6 necro spike with pve skills is probably better in the majority of areas since its just insanely fast.
SmokingHotImolation
Why animate bone horror on the mm?
Valkyria
I lol'd when I read part about Spartans. watch300much?
Anyways..you're baed.
Anyways..you're baed.
matti90
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That being said, build is nothing new.
Anime Divine
yeh have know that for ages call it double sab build whatever. only thing that keeps you alive with minimum healing are the minions.
lol "all fame goes to me"
lol "all fame goes to me"
Super Igor
I know that people were synching two Necroways for some time but nobody actually posted anything well though out, it doesnt really matter if you ran something similar some years ago lulz.
XkristoferX
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Originally Posted by BenC777
wtb new ideas.
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Discordway with 6 hero nercos + 2 human players = awesome
/congrats
Discordway with 6 hero nercos + 2 human players = awesome
/congrats
Turbobusa
I run one spirit all the time, never had any problems with livia saccing too much.
Sure 2 spirits means 2 conditions off mbas, but heroes are smart enough not to cast spirit light too much with life down.
Sure 2 spirits means 2 conditions off mbas, but heroes are smart enough not to cast spirit light too much with life down.
Miska Bow
A fix team build to do all campaign will never be optimum. you need to adust according to what you are killing.
What you posted is a good team build (might need a tweak or 2) but its a good team build.
The FAIL part of your post is the part where you take credit. Make me think of you as this:
What you posted is a good team build (might need a tweak or 2) but its a good team build.
The FAIL part of your post is the part where you take credit. Make me think of you as this:
Super Igor
Super Igor
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upier
When you need to bump it yourself - there is probably a reason for it ...
Super Igor
I want fame :O
upier
I think self-bumping your own threads actually gets you banned on Guru.
Besides - it's just a poor variation of the builds discussed here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10315920
so I guess this should be called Washi-way (which is actually INSANELY catchy!).
Besides - it's just a poor variation of the builds discussed here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10315920
so I guess this should be called Washi-way (which is actually INSANELY catchy!).
Super Igor
Poor? It blows stuff, and doesnt have loads of random shit in it.
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Omg, that is a poor variation of discordway you showed me, this is not discordway...l2readkthx.
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Omg, that is a poor variation of discordway you showed me, this is not discordway...l2readkthx.
payne
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Originally Posted by Super Igor
Poor? It blows stuff, and doesnt have loads of random shit in it.
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Omg, that is a poor variation of discordway you showed me, this is not discordway...l2readkthx.
well there is a good reason no1 is posting...
also insulting ppl for no good reason by saying (read the bold part)
typing in "leet" speak doesn't help your cause
but there is no point claiming fame for a ok cookie-cutter build when you clearly didn't create it....
and anyway with two ppl you can run so much better without any necros in the entire team
as you like to put: kthxbainubnesslrn2rea
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Omg, that is a poor variation of discordway you showed me, this is not discordway...l2readkthx.
well there is a good reason no1 is posting...
also insulting ppl for no good reason by saying (read the bold part)
typing in "leet" speak doesn't help your cause
but there is no point claiming fame for a ok cookie-cutter build when you clearly didn't create it....
and anyway with two ppl you can run so much better without any necros in the entire team
as you like to put: kthxbainubnesslrn2rea
Super Igor
What pisses me off in this forum is how much you spam your fave word, "cookie-cutter". Whats not cookie cutter? Oh yes, take a good, efficient build, chuck loads of useless shit in the and call it "original", not cookie cutter amirite? And why are you making so much fuss out of fame bit? Thread is about the build, l2read.
Super Igor
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Originally Posted by upier
I know that with Discordway you scrubs start to pretend Sab's never exsisted but it still exsists actually and thing is, you cant compare them.
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Well, barbs and mop dont requre a lot of miroing because they cast it on the foe you start to attack or on the foe who has most things attacking it and that would be good enough no? Yes, you can micro it thogh, I dont see what scares you so much about it (lol, l2play? ) its not hard, I like microing, hence it will make things blow up epicly, but I have said Necorway, or sabs, is harder to run, thing is that both barbs and mop are really good spells that are key to necorway synergy (besides, SW triggers MoP).
Just a a bit worse ... you know with stuff Heal Party when you already have 2 PwKs and Life, or Awaken/Spoil, or MoP/SS/Barbs on a hero, BwM, your suggestions for the player ritu/necro builds to goodies like having one of the few rezzes on the healer. Like ... the non-random shit.
I dont get what you mean, heal party is good against pressurebecause you can spam it on recharge with infinite energy, but it isnt good if uve just been hit by a dragon stomp and about to be bashed by something else, in that case you want to drop the ashes to give you anice very fast party heal and throw a woh on a badly hurt ally if needed, prot stuff, and wow/aegis stuff right after, heal party is just way too slow for the purpose. And honestly, prove me wrong, but I think you cant have enough party wide heal in pve, it is really very helpful. I also dont get your argument against ss, do you want to prove that you ont understand concept behind sab's, that ss, mop, barbs is one of the things that bring the synergy together? You know, splinter'd minions bashing the target that has barbs and mop on it and also kills itself with ss (and sv). Awaken the blood is obvious too, you have a character that splits between curses (weakness and cracked armor) and blood, SV, that plays a great role in taking down healers n suff, has good synergy with low health minions and also provides utility for the party so, to make up for rather spread out attributes you have awaken that makes SV more powerful and gives a bit more lengh to weaknesses/cracked. As for player builds, yeah, some are random, but that means you can take any build and win really, LOL, they make you autopilot. Super Igor
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Originally Posted by upier
Everything else requires a bit of microing. And if you aren't going to micro it - then there are better options. |
Rest of the spells, reckless, no doubt a good spell, but you are taking it primerely to fuel damage from SS not really for damage reduction from mob's wanding. SW/AR, indeed great spells, what is more first has synergy with the hexes.
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Weaken/Enfeebling run superbly well with only a few points in Curses. That's there is no need for Awaken. Especially since Enfeebling requires sacrifice.
SV - once again - a micro spell. Discord would do pretty much the same thing - just more auto-pilot-y.
WoW is sweet.
I do agree on awaken though, it originally had Defile defenses thingie, think it gonna be put back there or resurrect of a sort.
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The left over necro can then go as a Discord dude - with monk secondary for Aegis (dump PS on him from the healer/possibly a second SoA).
Ench removal on these two guys. Mmmm, no. And again, it isnt supposed to be discordway and you dont want to miss out SS, MoP, Barbs, SV.
And unless you havent spotted, there is a guy with soa, ps, and aegis allready, you dont need more copies of them.
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There is absolutely no reason for the Bomber to have 13 in SR while also having 2 e-management options. This would be a superb character to bring that third Aegis on.
Foul Feast, but I agree that there might not be a reason to take sols. And, third aegis?! You smoke weed dude, there is absolutely no reason to have an aegis chain in pve, you are never going to spend more than 10 second in battle unless you suck or did something terribly wrong, and the cooldown time is all about running anyway when you shouldnt bother about the chain up. Quote:
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