Hello
Ok. I'm trying to figure out what the difference between gold and purple weapons besides the color.
I have 2 axes both identical right down to the the last attribute except the purple actually does 1 more point of slashing damage but the gold one is more sought after and worth more money.
So, my question is this: Is there some intrinsic attributes the gold has that make them better or is it just its deep golden hue?
Thanks
Difference between gold and purple
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Marty Silverblade
You can make a purple weapon have the exact same stats as a gold weapon. It's just the text color that makes them worth so much more.
WhiteAsIce
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
You can make a purple weapon have the exact same stats as a gold weapon. It's just the text color that makes them worth so much more.
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ALF71BE
It's the rarity of the item.
Typically, if a Jungle Troll level 18 drops a purple and later another same monster drops a gold weapon, both the same skin, the gold is probably going to have a higher damage and has an actual chance of having max mods (upgrades).
Typically, if a Jungle Troll level 18 drops a purple and later another same monster drops a gold weapon, both the same skin, the gold is probably going to have a higher damage and has an actual chance of having max mods (upgrades).
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by ALF71BE
It's the rarity of the item.
Typically, if a Jungle Troll level 18 drops a purple and later another same monster drops a gold weapon, both the same skin, the gold is probably going to have a higher damage and has an actual chance of having max mods (upgrades). |
Rarity aside, if the weapon doesn't do its max range of damage, it's worthless regardless. Salvage off good mods and merch it.
Gift3d
There is no difference, but people in-game will always swear that the color of the text matters so much if the damage, req, and stats are the same.
It's something that's determined by the players, therefore it is massively retarded.
edit: And really if you think about it, it's nothing to do with rarirty.
I have a req9 inscribable BLUE eternal shield, and a req9 inscribable PURPLE magmas shield. Those are easy as hell to find/buy gold, good luck trying to find a blue or purple. Rare, haha.
It's something that's determined by the players, therefore it is massively retarded.
edit: And really if you think about it, it's nothing to do with rarirty.
I have a req9 inscribable BLUE eternal shield, and a req9 inscribable PURPLE magmas shield. Those are easy as hell to find/buy gold, good luck trying to find a blue or purple. Rare, haha.
Destro Maniak
they are EXACTLY SAME
the only THING that makes them worth more are RETARDS that think gold is cooler but WHY?
Simple: They are retards
THey are so retard that they dont even think that WHO SEES THAT YOU HAVE A GOLD weapon
We all know that its impossible to show someone that you have a gold weapon
EVEN YOU CANT SEE it most of the time
so if you have a single sparkle of wisdom you would look for blue-purple ones and save your money for some real purpose
the only THING that makes them worth more are RETARDS that think gold is cooler but WHY?
Simple: They are retards
THey are so retard that they dont even think that WHO SEES THAT YOU HAVE A GOLD weapon
We all know that its impossible to show someone that you have a gold weapon
EVEN YOU CANT SEE it most of the time
so if you have a single sparkle of wisdom you would look for blue-purple ones and save your money for some real purpose
Etsuko
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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
they are EXACTLY SAME
the only THING that makes them worth more are RETARDS that think gold is cooler but WHY? Simple: They are retards THey are so retard that they dont even think that WHO SEES THAT YOU HAVE A GOLD weapon We all know that its impossible to show someone that you have a gold weapon EVEN YOU CANT SEE it most of the time so if you have a single sparkle of wisdom you would look for blue-purple ones and save your money for some real purpose |
Good luck specifically requesting a white/blue max damage crystalline sword. People buy gold weapons because everybody knows the market value for them and trade at that value. It's the path of least resistance, and the shiny is a plus.
No one can see if your weapon is max damage or a bit off the mark either, but while that's definitely a rarer find in non-golds than in golds, max damage weapons which will sell for more than non-max damage weapons as they, well, do max damage. Are you saying cause "its impossible to show someone that you have a gold weapon EVEN YOU CANT SEE it most of the time [sic]" there's no point in having anything, including a max damage weapon, just because no one knows that it's max?
You're saying there's no point in getting a gold item 'cause no one knows that it's gold. The OP is just asking the difference between gold and purple. Golds are simply easier to trade, that's all.
MagmaRed
Gold has a lower drop rate, and the stats have a higher chance of being max. Although I have several purples and even a couple of blues that are BETTER than some of my golds, the CHANCE that a gold will be better is what matters.
If you see a gold item drop, you know you have a good chance of getting max mods, while if you see a purple drop, you can only hope to get some good mods.
With inscriptions, a purple with the same damage, req, and skin will be exactly the same as a gold. Don't think it is possible for a purple to drop with a max inherent, but I'm not sure on that.
If you see a gold item drop, you know you have a good chance of getting max mods, while if you see a purple drop, you can only hope to get some good mods.
With inscriptions, a purple with the same damage, req, and skin will be exactly the same as a gold. Don't think it is possible for a purple to drop with a max inherent, but I'm not sure on that.
Luminarus
As far as I know, u cant get 15>50 on a non inscribable purple, so in the case of noninsc weapons, the difference is the quality of the inherant mods.
However, since inscriptions its possible to have 100% identical weapons, one gold one purple (apart from the merch price).
Purples are however, lacking the prestige, and as such are worht less.
However, since inscriptions its possible to have 100% identical weapons, one gold one purple (apart from the merch price).
Purples are however, lacking the prestige, and as such are worht less.
Gwmaster
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Good luck specifically requesting a white/blue max damage crystalline sword. People buy gold weapons because everybody knows the market value for them and trade at that value. It's the path of least resistance, and the shiny is a plus. No one can see if your weapon is max damage or a bit off the mark either, but while that's definitely a rarer find in non-golds than in golds, req 7 max damage weapons which are NOT gold sell for tons more than regular req9 golds as they have a better crit chance. Are you saying cause "its impossible to show someone that you have a gold weapon EVEN YOU CANT SEE it most of the time [sic]" there's no point in having anything, including a good crit rate, just because it can't be seen? You're saying there's no point in getting a gold item 'cause no one knows that it's gold. The OP is just asking the difference between gold and purple. Golds are simply easier to trade, that's all. |
TorquemadaXL
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
There is no difference, but people in-game will always swear that the color of the text matters so much if the damage, req, and stats are the same.
It's something that's determined by the players, therefore it is massively retarded. edit: And really if you think about it, it's nothing to do with rarirty. I have a req9 inscribable BLUE eternal shield, and a req9 inscribable PURPLE magmas shield. Those are easy as hell to find/buy gold, good luck trying to find a blue or purple. Rare, haha. |
It's a matter of what u like and dislike:
Why an eternal shield (any color, BLUE, PURPLE, GOLD) is better then a round shield? both has al16 if max.
It's a matter of taste and it's personal, keep that in mind before saying that the ones that likes golds are retarded.
It can be said the same of u that have spent more then 150 golds to have a perfect max item, that's the price of a collector item (usually 5 mob's loot with no higher price of 30 golds each) that comes almost in all the way u may mod a weapon, and beside this there are greens, some are unique skins, always perfect (besides starter greens) and max.
GW is on skins, skins are on taste, so GW is on taste.
Don't judge other, so u'll not be judged.
Like an avatar i've found here: I'll try to be nicer if u try to be smart.
OT:
Perfect weapons exists in blue, purple and gold version, even if some rare skins exists only in gold version. There is no difference in the stats, just the fancyness u give them. U can save money getting what u need from collectors and crafters, but soon GW will become boring (at least for me), and u will have a huge amount of money that u dunno how to use. I choose to spend over 5 millions equipping me and my heroes with all the skins i like (1 chara and his 26 heroes).
Cheers!
Zamochit
Prior to Nightfall and the introduction of inscriptions the colour of a weapon made a considerable difference to the quality of the inherent modifiers, although not the actual damage range of the weapon.
Basicly this meant that, with the exception of collecters items of course, it has been ingrained in most of the older player's minds that ~ gold is good.
Now of course it makes absolutely no difference if you are dealing with an inscribable item whether the item is gold, purple or blue - providing it has the maximum base stats and an inscription slot; but old habbits die hard and most people - if they can afford a gold - will buy gold. There are also certain skins in the game which are only available in 'gold'. Eternal Blade, Obsidian Edge etc.
If money is tight buy a cheap inscribable skin and spend the cash you save to get perfect mods for it, Or better still find yourself a collecters one. The stats of the weapons and armour you are using should always take a higher priority than the skins or the colour of their text.
Basicly this meant that, with the exception of collecters items of course, it has been ingrained in most of the older player's minds that ~ gold is good.
Now of course it makes absolutely no difference if you are dealing with an inscribable item whether the item is gold, purple or blue - providing it has the maximum base stats and an inscription slot; but old habbits die hard and most people - if they can afford a gold - will buy gold. There are also certain skins in the game which are only available in 'gold'. Eternal Blade, Obsidian Edge etc.
If money is tight buy a cheap inscribable skin and spend the cash you save to get perfect mods for it, Or better still find yourself a collecters one. The stats of the weapons and armour you are using should always take a higher priority than the skins or the colour of their text.
Etsuko
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Originally Posted by Gwmaster
Some1 needs to search a bit more about damage and attributes..but unless you didn't know..a weapon with a req13 will have a better crit damage since the more attribute in mastery u have..the more crit % you have...unless i missed something on my 3years of playing.
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EDIT: Well, this is off-topic, anyway. But for whatever reason (e.g. lower req for max damage <--> more flexibility), supposition (lower req is more rare) or speculation (lower req has better crit chance), higher req weapons do not sell as well as lower req max weapons regardless of colour. I'm sure if req 13 weapons indeed offered such a good crit chance, they wouldn't be trashed so often or called "caster" weapons, yes?
TorquemadaXL
@Etsuko
@Gwmaster
As long as i can read on guildwiki (so not my personal research) crit% is due to the attribute point u have in the weapon mastery.
What Gwmaster is trying to say (or at least that's what it seems to me) is that it's not important the req of the weapon but the points spent in its mastery. Example:
A req 7 max sword with 16 in swordmanship have the same crit% then
a req 13 max sword (same as the above) with 16 in swordmanship.
Low req is just another face of the fancyness i was talking in my previous post, 'couse (just an example) Caster req 7 sword acts exactly the same as a req 13, or (another example) a req 7 15^50, 20/20 +30 sword will act the same as a req 13 15^50, 20/20 +30 sword if the warrior wielding it has 13 or more in swordmanship.
That comes along with my 34 years, most of them spent reading and asking myself questions... and finding myself or with help answers, not from my few months in GW... that means nothing.
(That's the same of: just my 2 cents).
Absolutely Off Topic:
I would like to see the face of peeps that after spending ages in DoA (talking about the time when DoA was really really hard) would have as reward a blue common skin item...
Cheers!
@Gwmaster
As long as i can read on guildwiki (so not my personal research) crit% is due to the attribute point u have in the weapon mastery.
What Gwmaster is trying to say (or at least that's what it seems to me) is that it's not important the req of the weapon but the points spent in its mastery. Example:
A req 7 max sword with 16 in swordmanship have the same crit% then
a req 13 max sword (same as the above) with 16 in swordmanship.
Low req is just another face of the fancyness i was talking in my previous post, 'couse (just an example) Caster req 7 sword acts exactly the same as a req 13, or (another example) a req 7 15^50, 20/20 +30 sword will act the same as a req 13 15^50, 20/20 +30 sword if the warrior wielding it has 13 or more in swordmanship.
That comes along with my 34 years, most of them spent reading and asking myself questions... and finding myself or with help answers, not from my few months in GW... that means nothing.
(That's the same of: just my 2 cents).
Absolutely Off Topic:
I would like to see the face of peeps that after spending ages in DoA (talking about the time when DoA was really really hard) would have as reward a blue common skin item...
Cheers!
Iuris
There are differences between the groups of rarity. Most can be overcome by modding the weapon. Some can not.
1st: the bonuses on the weapon are limited by rarity. For example, you can't get +14% over 50% or +15% over 50% on anything but gold weapons. With inscribable weapons, this can be overcome. With non-inscribable ones, it cannot.
2nd: in some cases, the skins of the weapons differ.For example, the gold steel daggers look different than the other types.
3rd: it can be a matter of prestige. I find myself somewhat irked that my q9 bows and that nice q9 fellblade are not gold. They just don't look as good in the inv. screen. Oh, and I almost sold one by accident with the loot
1st: the bonuses on the weapon are limited by rarity. For example, you can't get +14% over 50% or +15% over 50% on anything but gold weapons. With inscribable weapons, this can be overcome. With non-inscribable ones, it cannot.
2nd: in some cases, the skins of the weapons differ.For example, the gold steel daggers look different than the other types.
3rd: it can be a matter of prestige. I find myself somewhat irked that my q9 bows and that nice q9 fellblade are not gold. They just don't look as good in the inv. screen. Oh, and I almost sold one by accident with the loot
Gift3d
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Originally Posted by TorquemadaXL
It's a matter of what u like and dislike:
Why an eternal shield (any color, BLUE, PURPLE, GOLD) is better then a round shield? both has al16 if max. It's a matter of taste and it's personal, keep that in mind before saying that the ones that likes golds are retarded. It can be said the same of u that have spent more then 150 golds to have a perfect max item, that's the price of a collector item (usually 5 mob's loot with no higher price of 30 golds each) that comes almost in all the way u may mod a weapon, and beside this there are greens, some are unique skins, always perfect (besides starter greens) and max. GW is on skins, skins are on taste, so GW is on taste. Don't judge other, so u'll not be judged. Like an avatar i've found here: I'll try to be nicer if u try to be smart. OT: Perfect weapons exists in blue, purple and gold version, even if some rare skins exists only in gold version. There is no difference in the stats, just the fancyness u give them. U can save money getting what u need from collectors and crafters, but soon GW will become boring (at least for me), and u will have a huge amount of money that u dunno how to use. I choose to spend over 5 millions equipping me and my heroes with all the skins i like (1 chara and his 26 heroes). Cheers! |
And now, the difference between purples and golds has to do with selling, because whoever started the initial trend of differentiating the two are, yes, retards. Now i never said anyone who likes golds is stupid. I prefer to buy golds because they are easier to sell again, because blue/purple things are nearly impossible to for a regular price. Nope, did not say it. You should probably re-read my post and get a vague understanding of it before you speak and give a petty attempt at slandering it, either that or give Mr. Webster a call if any words i used confused you, which i apologize for.
Etsuko
@TorquemadaXL: Agreed, I did say that I realised weapon mastery is not the same as weapon requirement. He did, however, confuse the two, in fact equating them with each other (fragment bolded in quote for clarity).
As for whether weapon requirement contributes to critical chance, well, the devs have not confirmed anything on it yet and there's not been much empirical testing on the matter. There is a post on the guildwiki discussion thread that shows there is no "higher" damage afforded by the lower req weapon (except in the case of 10 weapon mastery), but it's just one test with one weapon type and doesn't show if there's a higher crit rate afforded by the lower req (not that it's a bad test, because the guy who bothered even doing it in the first place was testing for damage and not crit rate). The crit rate issue is one of the reasons why some people like to pay more for lower req weapons.
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Some1 needs to search a bit more about damage and attributes..but unless you didn't know..a weapon with a req13 will have a better crit damage since the more attribute in mastery u have..the more crit % you have...unless i missed something on my 3years of playing.
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dilan155
its matter of what you like tbh, but the chances of finding a purple max damage and with at least one maxed mod is not likely
Savio
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Originally Posted by Etsuko
As for whether weapon requirement contributes to critical chance, well, the devs have not confirmed anything on it yet and there's not been much empirical testing on the matter.
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DarkNecrid
Weapon requirement doesn't affect Critical Hit chance Etsuko, a Character's Weapon Attribute does. All the weapon requirement on an item does is say at what number the weapon stops using a 1-X damage range and starts using its normal damage range.
ie:
Scythe that does max damage and is req 9
Scythe Mastery of 2: Will do 1-8 damage.
Scythe Mastery of 8: Will do 2-13 damage.
Scythe Mastery of 9 (gives weapon its normal damage range, although it is reduced by a % up until 12): 7-45 damage.
Scythe Mastery of 12: (the weapon at this # finally does 100% of its actual damage) 9-58
Scythe Mastery of 14: (does more than 100% damage range) 10-62
(includes crits)
Weapon Attributes (_______ Mastery, Marksmanship) give you +1.44% to crit per point.
ie:
Scythe that does max damage and is req 9
Scythe Mastery of 2: Will do 1-8 damage.
Scythe Mastery of 8: Will do 2-13 damage.
Scythe Mastery of 9 (gives weapon its normal damage range, although it is reduced by a % up until 12): 7-45 damage.
Scythe Mastery of 12: (the weapon at this # finally does 100% of its actual damage) 9-58
Scythe Mastery of 14: (does more than 100% damage range) 10-62
(includes crits)
Weapon Attributes (_______ Mastery, Marksmanship) give you +1.44% to crit per point.
Destro Maniak
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Originally Posted by Etsuko
Good luck specifically requesting a white/blue max damage crystalline sword. People buy gold weapons because everybody knows the market value for them and trade at that value. It's the path of least resistance, and the shiny is a plus. No one can see if your weapon is max damage or a bit off the mark either, but while that's definitely a rarer find in non-golds than in golds, req 7 max damage weapons which are NOT gold sell for tons more than regular req9 golds as they have a better crit chance. Are you saying cause "its impossible to show someone that you have a gold weapon EVEN YOU CANT SEE it most of the time [sic]" there's no point in having anything, including a good crit rate, just because it can't be seen? You're saying there's no point in getting a gold item 'cause no one knows that it's gold. The OP is just asking the difference between gold and purple. Golds are simply easier to trade, that's all. |
higher crit rate from golden weapon...
omg^^
are you kidding me, gold or purple or blue as long as inscriptable the only thing matters is if max damage and the req
Quaker
My 2 cents:
When GW was new, it was the general scheme of things that the stats of weapons, etc., generally improved as you went from white to blue to purple to gold. That was also back in the day before Inscriptions, so the inherent mods on weapons were not mod-able.
In those days, purple weapons would generally speaking have a higher requirement or have a much less than max inherent mod, such as 13^50 or HCT 8%, etc.. Gold weapons would have a lower requirement and would have max or near max inherent mods, such as 14-15^50 or HCT 9%-10%.
Purple weapons would also usually have crappier prefix and suffix mods mods on them, but of course, they could always be changed.
Any way, somewhere along the way, during all the updates, changes to chests, and inscriptions, etc., NCsoft (or whoever) futzd around with the stats on weapons so much, that the distinction in weapon color is now almost meaningless in practical terms. I think they basically gave up trying to "fix" it - we will have to wait and see if GW2 can straighten it all out.
(My warrior, for example, has a blue armor 16 Ebonhand Aegis with health+60 (enchanted) and dmg-2 (enchanted) - just as good as any shield).
People still like gold weapons best because they are (supposedly) rarer, but I've had many times when I've gotten a req 9 purple drop and a req13 gold during the same run.
So, in answer to the OP's question - there is no difference, performance-wise, between a purple (or blue) and gold weapon of equal stats other than text color. As someone pointed out, there are a few weapon skins that change from blue to purple to gold - the Ancient Scythe comes to mind.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Scythe
When GW was new, it was the general scheme of things that the stats of weapons, etc., generally improved as you went from white to blue to purple to gold. That was also back in the day before Inscriptions, so the inherent mods on weapons were not mod-able.
In those days, purple weapons would generally speaking have a higher requirement or have a much less than max inherent mod, such as 13^50 or HCT 8%, etc.. Gold weapons would have a lower requirement and would have max or near max inherent mods, such as 14-15^50 or HCT 9%-10%.
Purple weapons would also usually have crappier prefix and suffix mods mods on them, but of course, they could always be changed.
Any way, somewhere along the way, during all the updates, changes to chests, and inscriptions, etc., NCsoft (or whoever) futzd around with the stats on weapons so much, that the distinction in weapon color is now almost meaningless in practical terms. I think they basically gave up trying to "fix" it - we will have to wait and see if GW2 can straighten it all out.
(My warrior, for example, has a blue armor 16 Ebonhand Aegis with health+60 (enchanted) and dmg-2 (enchanted) - just as good as any shield).
People still like gold weapons best because they are (supposedly) rarer, but I've had many times when I've gotten a req 9 purple drop and a req13 gold during the same run.
So, in answer to the OP's question - there is no difference, performance-wise, between a purple (or blue) and gold weapon of equal stats other than text color. As someone pointed out, there are a few weapon skins that change from blue to purple to gold - the Ancient Scythe comes to mind.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Scythe
TorquemadaXL
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You're one to speak of intelligence when you completely misinterpreted my post. A skin is more aesthetic, for it can be seen by you and others around you. Rather than the color of the text which isn't seen by anyone other than yourself. And let's face it, GW is all about impressing others, just take a look at all the ugly wammo's in chaos gloves/FoW. They don't care about looking good, because they have a lot to prove to others, and that's what matters to them (And i'm talking about the majority demographic of Guild Wars, not all.).
And now, the difference between purples and golds has to do with selling, because whoever started the initial trend of differentiating the two are, yes, retards. Now i never said anyone who likes golds is stupid. I prefer to buy golds because they are easier to sell again, because blue/purple things are nearly impossible to for a regular price. Nope, did not say it. You should probably re-read my post and get a vague understanding of it before you speak and give a petty attempt at slandering it, either that or give Mr. Webster a call if any words i used confused you, which i apologize for. |
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Agree on ugly wammos in chaos gloves/fow
but besides that i have my opinion on "living" GW that's not the same of yours.I'll stop replying on this line, we're transforming this thread into a flame between us and I want to apologize with the OP for that, with the other readers, and with u too (if Websters explaining me the cheerfullness ofyour statement quoted above
)Cheers!
Quaker
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Mr Webster will have an hard work explaining me the cheerfullness of this statement:
It's something that's determined by the players, therefore it is massively retarded. |
Harvester of Sorrows
I buy gold weapons because they are easier to sell if I decide that I don't want it anymore, want something else, etc. And thats the same reason I prefer inscribable weapons over ones that can't be inscribed and I would pay more money for an inscribable gold then a blue or purple with the exact same stats (inscribable or not.) Am I retarded for thinking this?
snaek
colour indicates rarity and the % chance to find good stats/mods on these weaps
blue > purple > gold
market is supply/demand
back in proph days...
teh rarer an item, generally the better teh stats
so theres less supply, and more demand
pumpin up teh cost
golds were usually -always- better than purps
but teh keyword is being a "% chance" to be better upon finding it
then, nf came along and introduced the inscription system
allowing blues and purples to be perfectly inscribed jus the same as golds
but golds r indeed still more rare, and still have a better % chance drop wit better stats/mods
but u r able to mod up ur purple to become jus as good of a weapon as a gold now
but still, even if they can have same stats...
golds -should- be more expensive than purples still
blue > purple > gold
market is supply/demand
back in proph days...
teh rarer an item, generally the better teh stats
so theres less supply, and more demand
pumpin up teh cost
golds were usually -always- better than purps
but teh keyword is being a "% chance" to be better upon finding it
then, nf came along and introduced the inscription system
allowing blues and purples to be perfectly inscribed jus the same as golds
but golds r indeed still more rare, and still have a better % chance drop wit better stats/mods
but u r able to mod up ur purple to become jus as good of a weapon as a gold now
but still, even if they can have same stats...
golds -should- be more expensive than purples still
Etsuko
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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
higher crit rate from golden weapon...
omg^^ are you kidding me, gold or purple or blue as long as inscriptable [sic] the only thing matters [sic] is if [sic] max damage and the req |
Since when did I say that? I was talking about the req all this time... please read the other respondents' replies for clarity. Oh, plus since you say that the req matters as well, you're actually agreeing with my original post.
To Savio:
It is true that some people do think that the lower req weapon contributes to a higher crit chance, and hence buy low req weapons for that reason; regardless of the truth of whether it actually makes a difference (which has been the grounds of argument for awhile) rather than that the golds actually sell based on peoples' assumptions, which is part of the reason of the prices that low req max damage weapons command. I was wrong to say that it did make a difference in crit chance, but I did say that people bought it for that reason, something which I am sure of.
The main point of my first post was to say that golds are primarily for trade convenience anyway.
EDIT: To stop the mindless flogging of the very dead horse, please treat what I initially said as "comparing a max damage weapon to a non-max damage weapon", instead of "a req 7 with a req 9". Will mod the original post myself too, since no-one's going to be kept out of context as they've quoted me enough anyway. I was just trying to give an example of an innate trait of weapons that can't be seen by other players, to back up why it's not necessarily "useless" if it can't be seen. Obviously, I haven't picked the best of examples for a Q&A thread, and I'm going to correct it now. Thanks for all the input.
Rest of this post deleted in deferment to this thread, much thanks to DarkNecrid for the detailed correction within this thread (:
Yawgmoth
In the past it was clear and obvious - purples were worse than golds as they couldn't ever get all max stats.
But then came the terrible joke that was the inscription system, badly designed in so many areas, one of them being making every random purple (and most blues) inherently perfect - just as good as the golds, possible to be modded into absolute perfection. The only difference is that the golds can actually drop with max mods on them occassionally, purples/blues need to have them all added; this difference is irrelevant though.
So you can have identical items with different colors after modding and the gold version will be worth more because the masses believe that gold=the best, gold=more rare=more prestigeous. There are many exceptions, cases where gold isn't necessarily the most rare. Hardcore HM solo farmers can farm more golds than purples or even blues. Purple Staffs with all max base stats are at least 100x (maybe even 500x) more rare than identical gold ones. Certain skins have different rates at which they appear in different rarities (or not appear at all at some)...
Oh, the thing with lower req. and better crit chances - its a complete BS. The only thing that matters with weapons requirement is whether you meet the req or not. If you run 14 Swordsmanship a req.13 sword will perform identically to a req.7 one with same stats.
Crit chances are Very easy to test - just take 2 weapons and go hit some barrels in Isle of Nameless.
But then came the terrible joke that was the inscription system, badly designed in so many areas, one of them being making every random purple (and most blues) inherently perfect - just as good as the golds, possible to be modded into absolute perfection. The only difference is that the golds can actually drop with max mods on them occassionally, purples/blues need to have them all added; this difference is irrelevant though.
So you can have identical items with different colors after modding and the gold version will be worth more because the masses believe that gold=the best, gold=more rare=more prestigeous. There are many exceptions, cases where gold isn't necessarily the most rare. Hardcore HM solo farmers can farm more golds than purples or even blues. Purple Staffs with all max base stats are at least 100x (maybe even 500x) more rare than identical gold ones. Certain skins have different rates at which they appear in different rarities (or not appear at all at some)...
Oh, the thing with lower req. and better crit chances - its a complete BS. The only thing that matters with weapons requirement is whether you meet the req or not. If you run 14 Swordsmanship a req.13 sword will perform identically to a req.7 one with same stats.
Crit chances are Very easy to test - just take 2 weapons and go hit some barrels in Isle of Nameless.
crazybanshee
Don't forget, gold weapons give you +1 to wisdom when you id them.. that's why I'd rather get a gold than a purple. Other than that, no difference at all.
Monkus
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If there is no evidence, why the hell would you go ahead and say it's true? People buy req 7 weapons for rarity, not because they're any better. Powertraders and PvPers know this, which is why you don't see PvPers all over req 7 weapons.
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Dzjudz
In prophecies and factions, gold > purple because purple can't have max inherent dmg mods. In nightfall and eotn, gold = purple = blue, if inscriptable and same dmg & req.
Savio
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If the theory of higher chance of critcal hit was true with a lower req weapon (q7-8), i would highly doubt that you would see pvpers all over them due to their rarity as they have been phased out of the game and becuse of this pvpers dont actively seek them because they can't be bothered with the effort of finding something that rare and so they are happy to settle for req9 weapons which i myself as a pvper do. So to say directly that people buy low req weapons based PURELY on rarity and not possibly on theory that there is no evidence against or for is wrong.
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Lower requirements giving any sort of advantage was shown to be false ages ago. It's not hard to test yourself.
AltFire
Thanks for the replies everyone.
Kinda OT but I picked up a drop yesterday from a Losaru Lifeband. It was his armor and it was gold. It was al36 and the only attribute that it had was Health +10. Now the weird thing was that the +10 health was intrinsic (meaning I couldn't pull it off, expert salvage just showed crafting items). Seemed strange. I got 160 gold from a merchant for it. I'm hoping that was not a mistake.
Kinda OT but I picked up a drop yesterday from a Losaru Lifeband. It was his armor and it was gold. It was al36 and the only attribute that it had was Health +10. Now the weird thing was that the +10 health was intrinsic (meaning I couldn't pull it off, expert salvage just showed crafting items). Seemed strange. I got 160 gold from a merchant for it. I'm hoping that was not a mistake.
HawkofStorms
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People still like gold weapons best because they are (supposedly) rarer, but I've had many times when I've gotten a req 9 purple drop and a req13 gold during the same run. |
Edit: No Altfire, that was not a mistake. You are in phrophecies, so your weapons are non-inscrable, and most of the mods on an item can't be changed/salvaged off. You are still pretty early in the game, so you won't be getting any item that is valuable for a while. Gold items in early level areas are not max-stats.
Grenths Ire
since the inception of factions and titles, the major difference is that Gold weapons count towards a title and others don't.
side point, and i know its been said before though, but ANET if we spend 1500 for a lockpick and use it in HM on chests, the item should ALWAYS be gold, otherwise its just a plain rip off. at least that's my humble op.
side point, and i know its been said before though, but ANET if we spend 1500 for a lockpick and use it in HM on chests, the item should ALWAYS be gold, otherwise its just a plain rip off. at least that's my humble op.
Savio
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
Kinda OT but I picked up a drop yesterday from a Losaru Lifeband. It was his armor and it was gold. It was al36 and the only attribute that it had was Health +10. Now the weird thing was that the +10 health was intrinsic (meaning I couldn't pull it off, expert salvage just showed crafting items). Seemed strange. I got 160 gold from a merchant for it. I'm hoping that was not a mistake. |
AltFire
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It was a salvage item containing a Rune of Vitae. You should have been able to take the Vitae off with an Expert Salvage Kit.
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That was why it seemed odd to me, cause when I ran the expert kit on it, it just showed crafting materials and not rune or insignia and I thought there should be one.
isildorbiafra
the difference is that all things purple should be delated for they serve no purpose whatsover..including runes!
Quaker
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the difference is that all things purple should be delated for they serve no purpose whatsover..including runes!
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