Paragons, worth making?

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Should I make a paragon? I feel like it but then I think about how they are excluded out of elite areas like UW. Would I be EDIT: err, not pugging i meant H/Hing my whole paragon life?

Ashgar

Ashgar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

If you're in a big guild with organised events: yes, if you wanna PUG: no.

Frozen Bacon

Frozen Bacon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

I made a paragon and I enjoyed it. He's not my main but was definitely fun to use. Don't expect farming with him, though.

As for as getting into pugs, only experienced, non-noob players will appreciate a paragon's goodness.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

^Gogo trolll...

At any rate, they are good fun, great classes, and are nicknamed imbagons for a reason.

If you have the time to create one, then its good. However, like with the rest of the game ull probably be HHing most things, unless in a good guild, at which point being a para is no diff to being a mez

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

if u like teh concept of paras...then try em out
it will prolly be long and far before u attempt uw on ur para

(unless ur makin ur para for that sole purpose of doin uw...
which would be pretty lame?)

if u dun like teh concept of paras...
long distance spear dps, party-wide support wit shouts/chants...
then dun make one

furanshisuko

furanshisuko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

R/

uw... ever heard about doa this is where all the paragons are going now a days ,yeah they are kinda cool, mine pwns and if you do have experience whit other professions like ranger /warrior it would be a lil similar ive been on a few pugs whit a paragon and OMFG they are noobs srsly dont pug h/h is ftw, while leveling. works better having MOX and fire imp

Shursh

Shursh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

KaVa

N/

well, i made a paragon primarily so i could use her in UW/FOW. but now that i've leveled her and gotten more experience with a paragon, i use her other places than just elite areas.

you should definitely play one if you haven't yet. they are a lot of fun and not a big deal to lvl or w/e if you have EOTN, just do some kilroy boxing and then get yourself either to UW/FOW or through NF to DOA. you will be loved there.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Yeah you should do it, paragon is fun to play

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

"Save Yourselves!"

Otherwise, if you find playing it boring like me when you try it out, don't bother. If you find it fun, go for it.

NecroticChanter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Toronto

Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]

P/

Paragons can still solo UW? Wasn't that nerfed?

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

Ranger is my main these days. Paragon, Warrior, and Assassin vie for second place.

I cannot stand to play Imbagon, so mostly the Paragon is just for casual play when I do not have some time.

If you do not have a Ranger, go for that instead.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

With Focused Anger and Aggressive Refrain, plus skills like Blazing Spear, Cruel spear and Harrier's Toss, you can be a massive DPS machine. The paragon's biggest strength, though, is similar to the Mesmer. You make the rest of the team look good.

Shemsu Anpw

Shemsu Anpw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Sephirot - Keter

My paragon has become my primary char surpassing my first char my Ranger with almost 6 mill in xp. I've taken her through all campagns, UW, FoW, and trying for Urgoz and DoA. I find her the most fun. Though i still love my Rit and Drev. I like her hybrid nature of good armor, short ranged damage (spears have short bow range I believe). And I enjoy being able to affect all my party members. I dont have any regrets with her she's great fun. Though I'm partial to things with wings so maybe thats why too. :-p

I would recomend them to anyone especially over annoying Sins. :-p

Pocketmancer

Pocketmancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I honestly didn't know what a Paragon did until I played as one. And this was after I played through Nightfall twice or so. But enough of stranding away from the topic...

Paragons are pretty much a jack of all trades. Not good at one particular thing, but they can do a myriad of things at once. You protect your party, shout to gain energy and buffs, throw lightning spears at your enemies, setting them on fire, and then knitting sweaters for your guild mates around the holidays. Unlike most player skill bars which generally focus on one or two things, Paragon skill bars are extremely diverse as to what each skill is supposed to do.

The good thing about the Paragon is that it can easily do anything and everything you need it to do for the team while still attacking away with little to no breaks in between. The bad thing is, the Paragon's success depends a lot on the team it's playing with (though this can be said for any class). You can pretty much say that the Paragon functions as an amplifier for its team.

Pocketmancer

Pocketmancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Well, yes, if you actually play Hard Mode seriously and efficiently.

gw_poster

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

R/

paragon as support god - case in point: doing FOW with 2 rangers, 4 paragons, warrior and dervish - overaggroed in Burning Forest and it looked like 1/2 the monsters in there descended upon us and nobody died! Red bars jumping up and down all across the party window, it looked like a bouncing equalizer display...needless to say the para's provided crazy support/prot/damage, we finished FOW no problems with no monks. Prolly not the greatest achievement of all time, but impressive to me nonetheless as i hadn't played a lot with Paragons before then. Now I have a LS3 paragon, but haven't really explored the class by finishing campaigns, etc - although I want to eventually (once my ranger gets to GWAMM - so maybe never lol) But I digress: @ og question, yes create a paragon if u want to play a ranged attack/mid-line support role (earshot distance for ur shouts/chants).

SirSporks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2008

michigan

[THCS]

E/

i love my paragon :-D
what i love more, is when people in my alliance decide to use there paragons at the same time as me in the same party xD

then things get really fun :-D

if you party has only one paragon you are pretty much limited to SY spam... kinda boring..

if you have 8 paragons in a party, you can do pretty much whatever you want as long as you have chorus of restoration and ballad of restoration in your bar :-P

VERY versatile class in numbers.

unfortunately, most people do not see there strength in numbers so no one makes them. *sigh*

Pocketmancer

Pocketmancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I noticed one thing while speedrunning my Paragon through various missions today: they can use nicely made builds nearly everywhere. For me, running the Imbagon build has gotten me through 80% of the missions so far. The other 20% are the missions I had to complete before I could get the proper build made (heh). Fit for anywhere, really. Although admittedly, doing the same thing over and over in a select area gets quite boring.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

IMbagon is rly boring though... paragons are fun, imbagon isnt.

topsmoker1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

OLD

Like every other character he is as good as a player who is using it.

But remember if people will see skills that are not popular (especially on character that is not popular) they probably call u a noob.

Improvavel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Yeah "save yourselves" is really much more boring than using any other adrenaline shout to recoup energy...

Basically a pve paragon bar looks like - aggressive refrain, adrenal shout, there is nothing to fear, attack skill number 1, attack skill number 2, energy shout, rez, other skill.

Imbagon bar looks like - aggressive refrain, save yourselves, there is nothing to fear, attack skill number 1, attack skill number 2, for greater justice, focused anger, other skill.

A world of difference...

Multiple paragons party are fun

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

Are they worth making? It depends whether you find it enjoyable to play.

Good offense, defense, awesome support. Not to mention Imbagon is just ridiculous albeit boring after a while.

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

Are they worth making? It depends whether you find it enjoyable to play.

Good offense, defense, awesome support. Not to mention Imbagon is just ridiculous albeit boring after a while.

Unreal Havoc

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2007

Two weeks ago I played FoW full clear and finshed it within around an hour with the following team after 2 members left after restoring the temple.

1x Dervish
3xParagons (1xImba, 1xMoti, 1xDPS)
1xElementalist
1xMonk

I'd say yes.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

[Kain Fy's Skills;OQGkUum45gukQ2MY4XM4MpJ2Vh7G]

Ub3r Daz3 spamm3r
I'd say they're worth making.
That build is a variant of the highly mod-able "Broad Head Spear" build I made.
[Kain Fy's Skills;OQGkUum45gukQ2MY4HAAAgJ2VBAA]

Really fun to see a spammable BHA. While BHA is stronger, Stunning Strike is MUCH more spammable due to less downtime.

Though keep in mind that when you experiment and go into a PuG or group, people will always either call you a n00b or tell you to run IMBagon.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

If it can TntF on recharge and keep up SY!... ppl should stfu.

Shemsu Anpw

Shemsu Anpw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Sephirot - Keter

I am trying out

Spear of Fury(r7)
Anthem of Weakness
Save Yourself(r7)
For great Justice
Aggresive Refrain
Focused Anger
Go for the Eyes
Ebon Standard of Honor(r10)

It seems to do well enough in the desert, it dosent seem to need "There is nothing to fear" (at this time) though Im vanquishing with sabway Necros so I need a little more reliable damage and theres lots of fodder before they get to the party members. Paragons also seem to do well when it comes to minor adjustments for areas due to how well rounded they are. I'm sure I will change it around again when it comes to the stone summit herders again to prevent knock downs.

I enjoy my paragon greatly. But its strength is in party support mainly. If thats not your "thing" they may not be for you. Like Monk isnt for some people.