09 Oct 2008 at 14:25 - 29
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what if the "priority target" is not a monk, but a VoR/Backfire mesmer like in vid1 match 3? would you switch away from him just because he got guardianed? go ahead, and watch your team evaporate.
it's not like constantly attacking him will do any better. he's still going to cast through your attack, simply because you'll likely miss. you are much better off going after another target, potentially kill that target, and cause your team to take less pressure with VoR/backfire because your team don't have to use skills/spells as much with a target down.
of course, given your build, it's unlikely that you'll kill anything fast enough to make that difference anyways. i guess your sheer mediocrity cancels itself out, and cause you to accidentally make the right choice anyways.
09 Oct 2008 at 15:23 - 30
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
I watched both videos, he attacked through Guardian and seemingly thinks it's useless when it's one of the most effective prots in the game and fails for attacking Monks with it on them, never swaps targets for pressure on the backline before spiking, and in general makes a ton of rather newbie mistakes that the guy above you outlined and then brags rather egotistically about how uber his builds are, when they are nothing special.
It's called criticism, and his videos are really bad.
It wasn't directed to your post actually.
His videos are nothing special, but at the same time they aint bad. While you may have criticized in your posts, most of the other posters just used words against him: "you're bad, therefore your build is bad", while it isn't bad.
Sure there are mistakes, sure, he could improve on some point. Where does that give the right to people to jump on this and nearly insult him?
If he's arrogant, just don't bother and move one. See how he responds to people talking calmly in a pleasant way? He must not be that cocky I guess.
^that part isn't directed to you either lol
09 Oct 2008 at 16:23 - 32
@moriz, that is correct from a warrior's pov, but my builds allow me to think positive and assume my attacks will connect and kill it.
@turbo, yeah dude
@nornbear, rangers are low on my priority list anyway
09 Oct 2008 at 16:36 - 33
all of you who don't attack thru guardian are not brave enough.
09 Oct 2008 at 18:06 - 34
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Originally Posted by Orange Milk
Attacking through Guardian is just as noob as Frenzy/Heal Siging.
Depends. For general pressure play, it's true - but on coordinated spikes (which hardly ever occur in RA, btw) you're going to want to take the chance to get through for lethal.
Also, lrn2troll (you're way too obvious).
@ Cytherea: it's a nice thought to use Critical Strike's horrid energy gain for something else. Trouble is it leaves your chain very transparant/prone to shutdown, and you lack KDs/interrupts of your own. RA may very well the only place you could get away with a bar like that.
Also for all you people wanting to attack through Guardian no matter what:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...tering_Assault
or any of its variations.
09 Oct 2008 at 18:13 - 35
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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
@necrid, what if the "priority target" is not a monk, but a VoR/Backfire mesmer like in vid1 match 3? would you switch away from him just because he got guardianed? go ahead, and watch your team evaporate.
yes because making the monk run out of energy or close to it is more important than killing someone now, especially in RA where a Monk can make a match last a lot longer than it needs to be.
if you attack the VoR/backfire mesmer while he's guardianed, more than half your damage gets mitigated making the monk have an easier time to heal.
if your entire team is spiking him, go for it, but if your by yourself, no don't you dare, go switch targets to pressure that blue bar.
09 Oct 2008 at 18:20 - 36
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
switch targets to pressure that blue bar.
Thought it was worthy of highlighting. Seems like a new concept to some posters here.
09 Oct 2008 at 20:25 - 38
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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
@lipgloss and darkganni, rits are mediocre
So is your build, but you run it anyways.
The rit is the opposite of what you have going here, but it's also the same. You have a bunch of decent damage, and a bit of support; the rit has a bunch of decent support, and a bit of damage. With the RA meta (RA meta = what ever is Great on PvX atm, and your generic joke players) the way it is (VoR mesmers, BBsins, WSdervs, devhamerwars, etc.), I'd much prefer the extra support over the extra damage.
Speaking of WSdervs, if you were to throw Imbue Health on one of those, they'd probably out damage and out support you.
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09 Oct 2008 at 22:40 - 39
@necrid, i guess it will boil down to instinct considering multiple factors, ie primary target's current health, enemy monk pro or noob, my monk pro or noob, teammates pressuring enemy monk decently or not, or yeah will they help me gank, etc.
@snaek and bobby2, yeah im aware of its lack of disruption, thats what happens with bar compression, i had to fit in speed, hex/cond and res which leaves 4 attack slots. my other build has loads of disruption and is way cooler
@lipgloss, but i dont like playing rits and dervs
hhmnhmnmnk all your inputs have been considered
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