First Time playing Hard Mode, a little advice and help please.

1druid1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/R

Hi All

I am playing the following bar at the moment for my monk.

[Word of Healing]
[Dwayna's Kiss]
[Aegis]
[Shield Of Absorption]
[Dismiss Condition]
[Cure Hex]
[Protective Spirit]
[Reversal Of Fortune]

Its working OK, still trying to figure out the finer points of being a monk, unfortuantly when it comes to Hard Mode, I just dont cut it. I have tried numerous times on "The Great Northern Wall" and I just dont get anywhere. Whats the secret to hardmode, lol.

I now have the following heroes.

Tahlkora
Koss
Dunkoro
Melonni
Olias
M.O.X
Vekk
Ogden Stonehealer

Do I have a good enough selection of heroes to go up against Hardmode Phrophicies? Anyone with any tips or suggestions and maybe some hero builds to get me going would be appreciated.

Cheers

Druid

TheDarkshineKnight

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

Mercanaries of Xero

Rt/Mo

Yeah, it's a lot easier if you run Sabway, which is three Necro heroes: a Spiteful Spirit Curser, a Necro/Rit healer, and a Minion Master. So, my suggestion for you is that you go through Nightfall until you can get Master of Whispers and then go through Eye of the North until you get Livia. Then, get the required skills and gear and enjoy smacking the crap out of Hard Mode.

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

Try discord,3 necros as well, but better built for spike damage. Build's are on heroes & AI page here on guru.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

My personal favourite is paraway since it works as well in the places where there are less corpses:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869

Unfortunately you would need to get quite far in NF and GWEN to get both paragons and you should have SY! as well. Obtaining two remaining necros for Discord or Sabway will be much faster.

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

Really,the hero AI is good enough at healing..just go with Assassins Promise,Pain Inverter,Finish Him! and Ebon Vanguard Assassin then some prots(aegis/prot spirit/what ever.) then just use the Discord builds showed above.

1druid1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/R

Hi

Thanks for the replys, hmmm looks like I am going to have to get some more Necros then, will take me a while as I have only gotten to Eye Of THe North and only done two quests in Nightfall.

As for the following Assassins Promise,Pain Inverter,Finish Him! and Ebon Vanguard Assassin, will take me a good while to get them.

Cheers

Druid

Rebelor

Rebelor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

you should also consider going smite if you are going to do it h/h. you will be able to control aggro better that way. as stated above h/h healing is good enough, and i also agree on the the 3 necro concept as a general concept, but you will have to be flexable and modify your team build for different areas.

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

You could try Olias as a Discord MM, Melonie as a Ebon dust aura Derv and Vekk as a warder/curse.


Given the heroes u got, that's about all i can think of.

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

Druid,its well worth the time to get the skills i listed if you possibly can,even at low ranks there amazingly effective.

1druid1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/R

Hi All

Thanks for all the advice, I have added the following Heroes to my collection.

Livia
Hayda
Gwen

It will take me a while to get both Masters and Morgan, but I am getting there.

Cheers

Druid

TurinPT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Monk is pretty much the worst class to do HM with.

1druid1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/R

Hi Turin, to be honest, Monk wasnt a class I ever considered up until now, but I wanted to try something different to what I am used to playing. I also have to admitt that I have only ventured a few times into Hard Mode with my other characters, a vanquish here and there when bored. So yep I may be jumping in the Hard Mode deep end :-)

ShadowofWar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Draconus Reincarnatus [DRGN]

Mo/

I have recently been doing hm on my monk (going for titles now) and I find that it is very boring as I often find myself doing nothing (I am a prot monk btw). I usually go with sabway or my own hero team build thats not finished quite yet but still works. In low level areas such as ascalon in proph or "newb island" in cantha or elona I literally do nothing except flag my heros to the enemies and let them fight while i map or get a bounty or pick up items.
So anyway my point is, take sabway if you can and bring yourself with prtoection (prot spirit | s.o.a.| r.o.f. | and some hex/condition removal) and then the rest damage like pain inverter and or ursan.

gw_poster

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

R/

if u just want to do HM for better drops, not necessarily titles, i would recommend 55'ing or 600/smiting. You can do a lot of HM Elona and tyria (including UW) by 600/smiting ur way through. go NM to pick up needed skills (nundu bay mission for spellbreaker, for example), and visit pvxwiki for 55 and 600/smite builds, or there's lots here to read about methods and places to do that. My monk is relegated to farming, so that's as much as I can offer..monking for the sake of healing/protecting others is rather boring imo...

Daenara

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

Mo/

I found that in HM, I could run an MM, SS curses necro, and ditch the N/Rt healer in place for more damage. As a monk, I'd prefer to have a ranger/cruel spear paragon/hammer hero, rather than wasting a valuable hero spot on extra healing, when I could do the job myself.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

Definitely not your build that shit works real well(mine is almost same if not identical)...just run SS necro, necro rit healer, and a bomber MM.

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

I love 3 Searing Flames heroes

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Your build is almost ok, although I think you have the skills in a wonky order, but whatever. You should drop Dwayna's for GoLE, you'll need e-management. Pop off GoLE before you fire Aegis, and then you'll have a freebie Prot Spirit you can use as well.

You should be able to handle the healing by yourself for GNW. Use your spells appropriately, don't just spam them. Monk requires split second decision making, but that bar covers the bases well, just use them right.

Take a MM (crucial for ALL the Ascalon areas), a Warrior hero and then either a Splinter-Barrage Ranger hero or a Triple-Heat Fire Ele or a SS/Anti-melee Necro hero.

Sabway is not required, in fact, I'd NOT recommend it for a player-Monk. You need to LEARN your character, and having an uber-healer does nothing but make you lazy.

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway

R/

Lately I've been using Norgu with VoR instead of Curses guy.

It's especially delightful to see monks healing themselves and losing 1/4 their life while doing it.

As for your avaliavable heroes, take Olias as MM (I'd say Jagged bomber MM because you lack of more necro heroes), either Koss as Earth Shaker or Melonni with Wounding Strike, and try to get a mesmer hero for the VoR lulz.

IMO take Foul Feast in your necro and take Mending Touch to use it on him.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Dwayna's isn't that great on a single monk team. It requires you to precast enchants to get the full effect, which take time and energy, both of which are in high demand.

The prots he's running are more than sufficient to mitigate the damage to the point where Word can support everything. If you really want to keep Dwayna's, then drop RoF instead.

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway

R/

^ I wouldn't, because VoR works with everything and not just on healing. And I can bring Backfire for the casters and see them going boom.