PC on Fire Staffs

I'm looking to buy a clean Embercrest staff or a Crystal Flame Staff. What are typical prices on these? I've haven't seen any sold on guru lately so I'm not sure if they're rare skins and expensive or not

Thanks.

Edit: Thanks dEstr0y3r
Yeah, I need it to be fire atrib, for my ele fire build.

q9 40-50 K, q13 10 K-ish, but depends on atribute as well...btw they dont drop based on Fire atrib.

agree with destroyer but have seen a few sell for 60k!

r9 40-50k range so ye agree with destroyer

im also with guys above..

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Embercrest_Staff

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crystal_Flame_Staff

Both are linked mostly to main attributes. That means you can only get them in energy storage as there is no fire, air, water or earth req for them. You "can" get them with 11-22 fire dmg (not sure if you want to mod them 20/20 casting/recharge or need the fire dmg for certain skills) If you want 20/20 you can get the green Ilsundur's Staff. That is r9 fire, has 20% recharge, 20% casting in fire.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ilsundur%27s_Staff


Also - r9 Crystal Flame staves tend to sell a bit higher. They are a bit harder to find.

I have also seen quite a few r9 Embercrest staves go for 50-60k+.