Hero-Only Pve-Only Skills

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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I suggest that heroes would be able to equip skill that grants party bounties/hunts appropriate to faction they belong to:

Vekk, Jora, Ogden, Anton, Gwen would grant apropriate hunts based on thier race.
MoW & Razah would grant LB blessing (general for all monsters)
Koss & Dunkoro & Melonni would grant SS blessing (general for all monsters)
Xandra would give Luxon blessing
Zenmai would give Kurzick blessing

And it does not end here:

Margrid: "Treasure Hunter Mentor" - chance to get additional treasure hunter point.
Ogden "Drinking Buddy" - drink drunk in combat have chance to gain aditional minute.
Norgu "Insightfull tips" - picking up gold item assigned to character has chance to award wisdom points.
Tahlkora "Swetness" - if you are not under effect of sweet item, you gain additional sweet point.
Acolyte Sousuke "Party Time" - if you are not under effect of party item, you gain additional party point.

etc ...

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Zenmai isn't Kurzick...

I Will Heal You Ally

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

lol nty. was thinking that you were going to suggest some actual SKILLS that you can put on skillbar JUST FOR HEROES...

/notsigned

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Zenmai isn't Kurzick...
We can brainwash her to believing she is one.

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

so in other words you're cheap and want a cop out to spend less on titles by having heroes give bonuses. nty. guild wars is a grind fest already and this wont make things get any better.
besides what would the people without nightfall or gwen do? they would be left out of even more just because you want this idea. which we all know this idea is never going to happen anyway. and deep down, you know it too. *tear*

and i didnt know mox got a name change.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbo234 View Post
and i didnt know mox got a name change.
MoW = Master of Whispers.

oeg82000

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Mo/

They should let heroes use pve only skills what we got

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Whatever you do - make sure that the 3 necros get the best ones.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

I like the first couple of suggestions, but the last ones are plain retarded with a big nty on top.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
Whatever you do - make sure that the 3 necros get the best ones.
Nowai!

Goal is to reward using "offbeat" heroes with basically 7-skills skill bars.

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

soz but /notsigned.....the game has enough bounties in it....titles should not have to be handed to you.

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

I think we are better-off waiting for what Lindsey plans to do with the title updates.

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
MoW = Master of Whispers.
/doh

yeah wasnt thinking of him. even though he ends up as one of my heroes 90% of the time.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

/notsigned

You want PvE skills play with real people.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

I want to say that I like the idea, because bounties like that could encourage players to use different heroes with different builds in order to get a certain bounty. The problem is that there shouldn't really be a need to get more bounties like that, and some of them could be a little too good.

Good idea, bad execution.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

Want to know which hero-only pve skills we need?

"Get The &@%$ Away From Me!"
Shout. For 60 seconds, you will not hold hands with any party members.

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d View Post
Want to know which hero-only pve skills we need?

"Get The &@%$ Away From Me!"
Shout. For 60 seconds, you will not hold hands with any party members.
/signed for this!

not for original topic. I'm fine with the way blessing work at the moment.
So bring xandra in talus chute and get luxon faction for killing trolls and grawl which has nothing to do with luxons or kurzicks or cantha at all? nty. You get faction because you are helping the luxons of clearing their land of dangerous monsters "or in some cases, other luxons for some strange reason" so no.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

If those titles were unlinked (no attribute) and weaker versions of existing monster skills and required a quest or a part of the plot to be activated, and were NOT unlocked by account, I won't mind them.

Jora could have Bear form, Vekk could have summon Golem 1.0, Zhedd could have Trumple...

And for humans, since most humans have no monster skills, they would get plot-related skills.
Like "Princess Kiss" for Talhkora, or "Defend Master" for Zenmai.

FlamingMetroid

FlamingMetroid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine

The Luminaries [Lumi]

A/

yes, because PvE needs to be easier :|

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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Been suggested before, with a bit more clear thinking (and no BS skills at the end).

Here is a link to my thread.

Razah shouldn't get LB skills, he isn't a lightbringer, he's a demon, he deserves Call to the Torment if any (of course, there would be limitations, like can only be used once under 25% health, and a high recharge, maybe the double eventually dies like the Vanguard Assassin).

Zenmai isn't Kurzick, she's an ex-Am Fah.

Margrid would get Corsair Net.

Jora, instead of getting the Blessing skills, would be able to "Become the Bear"

And lastly, Morgahn would get that Seige skill (balancing would be needed).


Funny that my thread got mostly /signed except when dealing with Ursan (which those people didn't even read my thread, NO HEROES WOULD GET URSAN! And of course, Ursan isn't a big deal now).

I /don't sign for these exact ideas, but /sign for my old thread.


Perhaps I should rework my old thread and add a poll.

uzumaki

uzumaki

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

GW

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid View Post
yes, because PvE needs to be easier :|
Yeah, exactly. Honestly, PvE is too easy with all the overpowered PvE-only skills and consumables that there isn't a single pve title that is difficult to get imo. Shortening the grind would just make titles too quick easy to get.

Moar grind & challenge plz.

oeg82000

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by romeus petrus View Post
/notsigned

You want PvE skills play with real people.

i hate to play with real players and last time i played with real ppl when someone zoned on a midle of norn points farm
sometimes i go with guildis,but not with random ppl anymore

The Red Messenger

The Red Messenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

America

i dont like the OP's ideas at all, but some kind of pve only skills for heroes would be interesting. one thing that would be nice is a hero only "charge" like skill

"catch up fools"
shout (no skill point requirements)
hero only elite skill

5e 20r

for the next 30 seconds, all allies move 25% faster. all heroes stop fighting and follow the leader, and no heroes can glitch and run in the opposite direction for no apparent reason while under the effects of this shout.

trankle

trankle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

BloodBath & Beyond

Rt/

The glaring problem with this is that it penalizes players for playing with other players.

Why would anyone add another player to their group if it meant losing out on a bounty?

I'm all for letting players play in any group configuration they want (read: full hero parties), but if you think Anet is going to actively discourage playing with humans, you are mistaken.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

a) i didn't suggest skills that would make them more powerful in terms of game mechanics, nor making them able to use of other PvE-only skills ...

In fact, if people would take an assassin hero with 7 effective slots to get boost in title, lol, they would end up in less-than-optimal party setup. They would nerf themselves.

b) people with "giav moar ibma", gtfo.

c) there is not "am fah" nationality, she could be emperors stepsister for all we know about her origins. LOL @ nitpicking at least important point.

d) ty, trankle for actually doing some thinking.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
c) there is not "am fah" nationality, she could be emperors stepsister for all we know about her origins. LOL @ nitpicking at least important point.

d) ty, trankle for actually doing some thinking.
c) Am Fah isn't a nationality, neither is Sunspear, Lightbringer, etc. They are factions and groups. Am Fah don't have monster only or PvE only skills, so they get nothing. Same with Dragon Empire NPCs.

d) I also did some thinking -_-"


The concept of hero skills, or heroes getting pve/monster skills I like, and it does make sense. People only like it for the "balance" but that is easily fixed with a set scale for the skills. Like I said before, I /don't sign for your ideas *that is, the second half of your suggestions*, but /sign for the concept, and I think my thread (posted a link in last post) is a bit more detailed with what heroes get what, and at what rank.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
c) Am Fah isn't a nationality, neither is Sunspear, Lightbringer, etc. They are factions and groups. Am Fah don't have monster only or PvE only skills, so they get nothing. Same with Dragon Empire NPCs.

d) I also did some thinking -_-"


The concept of hero skills, or heroes getting pve/monster skills I like, and it does make sense. People only like it for the "balance" but that is easily fixed with a set scale for the skills. Like I said before, I /don't sign for your ideas *that is, the second half of your suggestions*, but /sign for the concept, and I think my thread (posted a link in last post) is a bit more detailed with what heroes get what, and at what rank.
Well, my "fix" to balance would be make those skills non-combat variety, thus not disrupting intended difficulty of game.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
Jora, instead of getting the Blessing skills, would be able to "Become the Bear"
Jora should get the same Bear Form skill all the Norn NPCs have.