A word of warning to Logitech G15 users.

This is not a bitch thread. this is not a whine thread. I have already done my part in contacting support regarding my personal issue, so please, do not take it as that.

this thread is a warning to those using the Logitech G15 Keyboard and Mouse macros that are available and accepted by Gaile Gray, or atleast I thought it was.

This weekend, while doing HFFF I was banned for using these macros. I have stated this fact until i was blue in the face to the support team, but they obviously do not care about a 3 year consumer with over 6000 hours logged onto my account.

So, the moral of the story, even though Gaile Gray said it was ok, do not use these macros if you enjoy your account.

I'm sorry for your loss.

What was the nature of the macro? Some are more "automated" than others, and I think those distinctions play an important role.

the macro itself added my second character to my party, which was by the zone. my character would then run to my second character, and out the door. the quest itself was done by my using my own mouse etc. the problem was when i entered and exited town.

but once again, this is not about me. just letting all of those know who has a G15 keyboard and uses the macro function, that they could be banned.

That sucks. My guess is that someone reported you because they noticed a very consistent pattern from your spawn point to the door.

It's too bad that people have to get nailed over crap like this because of the difficulty in distinguish between legit and illegitimate actions.

So the support still sucks even after Gaile was made their "ArenaNet Support Liaison"??

How is Support supposed to tell the difference between automated behavior from a program and automated behavior from a keyboard?

Also, let's see the link where Gaile says that botting with hardware is ok, but botting with software is not.

Basically, it boils down to the degree of repeatability. If you have macroed a step here and there as part of otherwise manual gameplay, you should be fine. If you have set it up so that you can farm and do yardwork at the same time, the keyboard defense won't cut it.

I hope you didn't overdo it and get your account back.

I have Logitech G15 and i also did some macros, but i maxed title with no problem ! But i did some things differently for instance i did not make a macro for "OUTPOST" cause that is kind of burn me at the stake CALL !!!
U got reported because people think u use BOT (always the same pattern of movement) !!! U should make macro for quest itself, and do OUTPOST moving by yourself (that`s what i did) !
I`m sorry but u are the one to blame for ur BANN !

I recall a thread about the G15, and people asking Gaile/Anet if it was OK to use.
Can't find it though, as the guru search excludes G15 from my search...

:S

offtopic question though: why would you make a macro for adding a secondary account? You only need to do that once. And running to the portal isn't that much work, and better done personally, as you spawn in 3 different places.
The quest itself is the same over and over, but I wouldn't macro that either TBH...

Umm, I use a G15 (althought I only have a macro binded to /resign so I just press it once rather than typing) and I wasn't aware that you could use Mouse macros ... To my knowledge it can only control the actual macros that the keyboard types (ie. input characters).

Personally, when running HFFF, I have my 0 Number Pad (Insert) key binded to target the nearest exit. No matter which spawn point in Lutgardis you spawn at, pressing this button twice (0 -> 0) will always select Melandrus. So I press this twice, space bar, then turn and run out when it's near the little marker thing near the zone.

I don't really see why you found this complicated.

The whole reason for the double Faction weekend was to ferret out the botters in order to ban them...lessoning the load on the servers. Couldn't be more simple....


Conspiracy theories are awesome...and some of them are actually true.

I got reported for leeching raptors.
Damn tattle tales who never mind their own business. And I would of gotten away with it, if it weren't for you pesky n00bs

Here is the link on the Logitech g15. Look up the "petition for logitech g15"

See post 33.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=33

Basically what he's saying is that a macro created on the keyboard is legitimate ingame..
So I can make a HFFF bot and use it on the keyboard? Load of crap.

I have the G-15 as well, I do not use for anything sophisticated, I use the lower six keys for movement keys I like it better than W S A D.

I set the next six keys for repetitive casts if I am on a caster like my Necro I hit the G-10 key and it will cast spell 1 then 2 then 3 etc.... when I first engage a mob. Or on my Rit I can hit G-11 and have it cast a spirit in slot one then move right three times cast spirit in slot two move right three times cast spirit in slot three prior to pulling a mob.

Of course there is always interruptions so they don't always work but they can be a time saver and repetitive motion avoider when vanquishing.

It is my understanding the rule of thumb with keyboard macros is you can't macro any keyboard keys to do anything you can't do yourself with a couple presses.

That's harsh.

In interpreted the type of macro's that were allowed as ones that macro-ed the clicking of the skill buttons on your heroes. So with 1 press of the button all 3 Shadow Forms would be clicked, 1 press of another would click all Dodge's and so on.

I never thought about macroing my movements, though. That sounded a bit too fishy by me, and likely because of this type of macro you got your ban, Star Gazer.

Thanks for the warning, though sadly a bit late for you.

@ Shiing: You know you can delete your own message, do you? Just click the 'edit post button' on the lower right of your post, and in the next menu, check 'delete message' and push the button.

How can you possibly get reported for that? You join a team and instead of fighting you let one member do all the fighting, nothing wrong there, just a bit boring.

There are no mouse shortcuts with the G-15, only keyboard shortcuts.

Mouse shortcuts most likely mean AutoIT, and AutoIT = Bot.

@OP, I doubt you were banned for a G-15 macro, most likely it was for something a little more crafty.

What is raptor leeching?

If it is what i think it is, letting someone else farm them while you collect asuran points. Then what is the problem with that?

My thoughts exactly.

There you are wrong, the G15 has commands like mouse up and mouse down.

@OP There is another thread bout this same topic somewhere. Anet allows the use of the G15 keyboard as long as your not doing some to exploit the game. I use it for stuff like I binded a Gkey so that I don't have to ; space over and over to pick up drops. and stuff like 600/smite I have it set so I don't have to press each bond manually. More then likely you got a few /reports because you stood in the same spot and did the same action over and over. Next time use you macro carefully and don't use them in town where everyone can see you.