Basically the opposite of my other thread. XD So yeah, same rules, but for the worst elite of each profession.
Of the professions I have played, I think the worst are:
Elementalist: Mirror of Ice (uh, useless, much?)
Paragon: Um, Anthem of Guidance? Too little to pick from. XD
Ranger: Poison Tip Signet (ew!)
Worst Elite For Each Profession
Kagome
Shayne Hawke
Luca Firestorm
Stone sheath?
MisterB
Warrior: Primal Rage
Elementalist: Stone Sheath
Monk: Amity
Necromancer: Weaken Knees is a good candidate.
Mesmer: Would have gone with Tease before the last update; Recurring Insecurity, perhaps.
Ranger: Lacerate or Archer's Signet
Assassin: Wastrel's Collapse
Ritualist: Clamor of Souls is pretty bad.
Dervish: Avatar of Grenth
Paragon: "Incoming!"
On a related note, we have a couple of these threads:
http://ww.guildwarsguru.com/forum/sh...php?t=10008331
That one is the most recent.
http://ww.guildwarsguru.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=136988
This one is in Riverside, but it's been over 2 years since the last post.
Granted, those are both worst elite in the game out of all professions, not each.
Elementalist: Stone Sheath
Monk: Amity
Necromancer: Weaken Knees is a good candidate.
Mesmer: Would have gone with Tease before the last update; Recurring Insecurity, perhaps.
Ranger: Lacerate or Archer's Signet
Assassin: Wastrel's Collapse
Ritualist: Clamor of Souls is pretty bad.
Dervish: Avatar of Grenth
Paragon: "Incoming!"
On a related note, we have a couple of these threads:
http://ww.guildwarsguru.com/forum/sh...php?t=10008331
That one is the most recent.
http://ww.guildwarsguru.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=136988
This one is in Riverside, but it's been over 2 years since the last post.
Granted, those are both worst elite in the game out of all professions, not each.
illidan009
The worst for Ele in PvE I gotta agree with OP. Mirror of Ice is useless there...
Dervish, Grenth's Grasp. Cripple in pve FAILS
Assassin: some crap skill I never even heard of. Like that one....wastrel's something.
Mesmer:Tease. it fails, despite the sexaaay icon
Dervish, Grenth's Grasp. Cripple in pve FAILS
Assassin: some crap skill I never even heard of. Like that one....wastrel's something.
Mesmer:Tease. it fails, despite the sexaaay icon
wind fire and ice
War - Primal Rage
Ele - Energy Boon
Nec - Flesh Golem or Weaken Knees
Monk - Aminity
Mes - Tease,since it dosent even work right as it is now
Ranger - Archers Sig
Rit - Clamor of Souls
Derv - Avatar of Grenth
Para - all para elites have there uses..Anthem of Guidance is the least used(only in HA) soo i guess that.
Sin - Wastrel's Collapse
Ele - Energy Boon
Nec - Flesh Golem or Weaken Knees
Monk - Aminity
Mes - Tease,since it dosent even work right as it is now
Ranger - Archers Sig
Rit - Clamor of Souls
Derv - Avatar of Grenth
Para - all para elites have there uses..Anthem of Guidance is the least used(only in HA) soo i guess that.
Sin - Wastrel's Collapse
Icy The Mage
energy boon is leet if you can use it 
Unlucky Slayer
Ursan Blessing?
Lord Sojar
Umm, Withdraw Hexes is the worst elite in the game.
/thread
/thread
joshuarodger
Warrior - Dwarven Battle Stance
Ranger - Quick Shot
Monk - Scribe's Insight
Necro - Weaken Knees
Mesmer - Tease
Ele - Mind Burn
Assassin - Wastrel's Collapse
Ritualist - Clamor of Souls
Paragon - Crippling Anthem (this is only for PvE. all paragon elites are fairly decent IMO)
Dervish - Vow of Strength
Ranger - Quick Shot
Monk - Scribe's Insight
Necro - Weaken Knees
Mesmer - Tease
Ele - Mind Burn
Assassin - Wastrel's Collapse
Ritualist - Clamor of Souls
Paragon - Crippling Anthem (this is only for PvE. all paragon elites are fairly decent IMO)
Dervish - Vow of Strength
bhavv
Ive made mirror of Ice work in both PVE and PVP.
I had a rocking A/R build using poison tip signet to fuel a deadly sin combo but cant remember it much.
But my worst elites are:
Elly - Elemental Attunement (I prefer damage)
Monk - WoH (I can think of a far better elite to use in any place in the game)
Ranger - BHA (be a real pro and hit with concussion shot instead, BHA is broken and imba)
Mesmer - Mantra of Recovery (so boring, I like to utilize elites which actually do something)
Necro - Flesh Golem (Usually A nooby necros first elite pick with every other minion skill on their bar as well)
Warrior - Everything sux VS blind spam.
Assassin - Mobius Strike (Because other elites are a lot better)
Ritualist - Wanderlust (D Shotted, lulz)
Paragon - Stunning Strike (Cos spear swipe lets you use something else durrr!)
Dervish - Everysingle Avatar elite cos they look stupid.
I had a rocking A/R build using poison tip signet to fuel a deadly sin combo but cant remember it much.
But my worst elites are:
Elly - Elemental Attunement (I prefer damage)
Monk - WoH (I can think of a far better elite to use in any place in the game)
Ranger - BHA (be a real pro and hit with concussion shot instead, BHA is broken and imba)
Mesmer - Mantra of Recovery (so boring, I like to utilize elites which actually do something)
Necro - Flesh Golem (Usually A nooby necros first elite pick with every other minion skill on their bar as well)
Warrior - Everything sux VS blind spam.
Assassin - Mobius Strike (Because other elites are a lot better)
Ritualist - Wanderlust (D Shotted, lulz)
Paragon - Stunning Strike (Cos spear swipe lets you use something else durrr!)
Dervish - Everysingle Avatar elite cos they look stupid.
FlamingMetroid
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Assassin - Mobius Strike (Because other elites are a lot better)
2/10
no one's that stupid
no one's that stupid
ALF71BE
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Ive made mirror of Ice work in both PVE and PVP.
I had a rocking A/R build using poison tip signet to fuel a deadly sin combo but cant remember it much.
But my worst elites are:
Elly - Elemental Attunement (I prefer damage)
Monk - WoH (I can think of a far better elite to use in any place in the game)
Ranger - BHA (be a real pro and hit with concussion shot instead, BHA is broken and imba)
Mesmer - Mantra of Recovery (so boring, I like to utilize elites which actually do something)
Necro - Flesh Golem (Usually A nooby necros first elite pick with every other minion skill on their bar as well)
Warrior - Everything sux VS blind spam.
Assassin - Mobius Strike (Because other elites are a lot better)
Ritualist - Wanderlust (D Shotted, lulz)
Paragon - Stunning Strike (Cos spear swipe lets you use something else durrr!)
Dervish - Everysingle Avatar elite cos they look stupid. You haxxor. My sarcasm detector just broke.
I had a rocking A/R build using poison tip signet to fuel a deadly sin combo but cant remember it much.
But my worst elites are:
Elly - Elemental Attunement (I prefer damage)
Monk - WoH (I can think of a far better elite to use in any place in the game)
Ranger - BHA (be a real pro and hit with concussion shot instead, BHA is broken and imba)
Mesmer - Mantra of Recovery (so boring, I like to utilize elites which actually do something)
Necro - Flesh Golem (Usually A nooby necros first elite pick with every other minion skill on their bar as well)
Warrior - Everything sux VS blind spam.
Assassin - Mobius Strike (Because other elites are a lot better)
Ritualist - Wanderlust (D Shotted, lulz)
Paragon - Stunning Strike (Cos spear swipe lets you use something else durrr!)
Dervish - Everysingle Avatar elite cos they look stupid. You haxxor. My sarcasm detector just broke.
Tyla
I can't tell if Bhavv is being serious or not. Three of those points are actually quite legit.
Xenomortis
The necromancer has some fairly useless elites. Weaken Knees is incredably pointless. Ravenous Gaze is silly though and promotes idiot play. And Cultist's Fervor will only result in death.
Ranger: Quick Shot. I just don't get it.
Rit: Clamour of souls also promotes suicide play. Then, so does Destructive was Glaive.
Ranger: Quick Shot. I just don't get it.
Rit: Clamour of souls also promotes suicide play. Then, so does Destructive was Glaive.
faraaz
You want dumb elites?
Quicksand...
Wtf? Why is this even in the game, let alone an elite?
Quicksand...
Wtf? Why is this even in the game, let alone an elite?
jaximus
for pvp
war: primal rage
ele: energy boon
monk: martyr
mez: recurring insecurity
nec: ravenous gaze
ranger: quick shot cuz now other bow attacks have timers with + damage
sin: shadow meld
rit: signet of spirits
derv: reapers sweep
para: incoming?
for pve
war: primal rage
ele: mind burn
monk: amity
mez: stolen speed
nec: ravenous gaze
ranger: quick shot cuz now other bow attacks have timers with + damage
sin: shadow meld
rit: signet of spirits
derv: arcane zeal
para: crippling anthem
war: primal rage
ele: energy boon
monk: martyr
mez: recurring insecurity
nec: ravenous gaze
ranger: quick shot cuz now other bow attacks have timers with + damage
sin: shadow meld
rit: signet of spirits
derv: reapers sweep
para: incoming?
for pve
war: primal rage
ele: mind burn
monk: amity
mez: stolen speed
nec: ravenous gaze
ranger: quick shot cuz now other bow attacks have timers with + damage
sin: shadow meld
rit: signet of spirits
derv: arcane zeal
para: crippling anthem
TheDarkshineKnight
Hanging Man
lets see
warrior - primal rage dumb ass skill
ranger - quick shot
monk - peace and harmony - why is that an elite, or a skill for that matter
nec - i kinda like all the nec elites, but the worst ones gotta be order of undeath
mesmer - pyschic distraction
ele - second wind
assassin - palm strike, its like another normal sin attack
rit - spirit channeling, prob useful but i dont like the -5 hp
derv - pious renewal
paragon - its just a flesh wound
warrior - primal rage dumb ass skill
ranger - quick shot
monk - peace and harmony - why is that an elite, or a skill for that matter
nec - i kinda like all the nec elites, but the worst ones gotta be order of undeath
mesmer - pyschic distraction
ele - second wind
assassin - palm strike, its like another normal sin attack
rit - spirit channeling, prob useful but i dont like the -5 hp
derv - pious renewal
paragon - its just a flesh wound
Calista Blackblood
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanging Man
lets see
nec - i kinda like all the nec elites, but the best one(for a human mm) is absolutely,definately order of undeath Thats a lot better
Worst Elite =Flesh Golem
nec - i kinda like all the nec elites, but the best one(for a human mm) is absolutely,definately order of undeath Thats a lot better
Worst Elite =Flesh Golem
jaximus
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDarkshineKnight
Orders Dervish says no to this.
Dervish: Vow of Strength
i dont see peoples hate for vow of strength, its pve, you can set your teams skills. also you can use pve skills, asuran scan, urals hammer, i am the strongest, aura of holy might. plus dervs were given the most powerful weapon in the game. therefore using a derv for orders although effective negates this ability.
Dervish: Vow of Strength
i dont see peoples hate for vow of strength, its pve, you can set your teams skills. also you can use pve skills, asuran scan, urals hammer, i am the strongest, aura of holy might. plus dervs were given the most powerful weapon in the game. therefore using a derv for orders although effective negates this ability.
ALF71BE
So you can't apply blind, daze, weakness or DW, just the four most powerful conditions. You can't carry specific henchmen that provide conditions.
Wow now that's gotta be a good elite. Especially when you have the other OP stuff you listed.
Btw you can't use 4 PvE skills at a time.
Wow now that's gotta be a good elite. Especially when you have the other OP stuff you listed.
Btw you can't use 4 PvE skills at a time.
jaximus
dervs are op'd as is, you dont need all that other stuff. and i didnt say use all 4 at once. i gave options.
Tyla
Vow of Strength is horrible. Wounding Strike, Avatar of Lyssa, even (and this elite is pretty junky compared to Victorious Sweep because it doesn't need an elite slot and is only about 9 damage lower) Reapers' Sweep. You can't use any conditions that elevate the amount of deaths at all.
Just because "it's PvE" doesn't mean "it's good" or "it's bad", the effects and usage of the skill determines that factor.
Just because "it's PvE" doesn't mean "it's good" or "it's bad", the effects and usage of the skill determines that factor.
zelgadissan
Warrior - Decapitate.
Ranger - Lacerate. At least Archer's Signet allows you to do damage. Lacerate adds 4 dps per second CONDITIONALLY.
Monk - Peace and Harmony/Withdraw Hexes. Flip a coin.
Necro - Signet of Suffering.
Mesmer - Symbols of Inspiration.
Elementalist - Energy Boon.
Assassin - Wastrel's Collapse.
Ritualist - Clamor of Souls.
Paragon - "It's just a flesh wound."
Dervish - Vow of Strength.
Ranger - Lacerate. At least Archer's Signet allows you to do damage. Lacerate adds 4 dps per second CONDITIONALLY.
Monk - Peace and Harmony/Withdraw Hexes. Flip a coin.
Necro - Signet of Suffering.
Mesmer - Symbols of Inspiration.
Elementalist - Energy Boon.
Assassin - Wastrel's Collapse.
Ritualist - Clamor of Souls.
Paragon - "It's just a flesh wound."
Dervish - Vow of Strength.
Divine Xan
W - Primal Rage or Hundred Blades (can see more use with Primal Rage though lol...)
R - Quick Shot or Quicksand (also lacerate isnt bad, it just sucks in PvE, and only abused in over hex/condtional builds in PvP)
Mo - Peace and Harmony, Withdraw Hexes, Amity, Word of Censure (your pick, all suck tremendously)
Me - Symbols of Inspiration or Air of Disenchantment
N - Signet of Suffering
E - Stone Sheath
A - Wastrel's Collapse or Mark of Insecurity
Rt - Signet of Spirits, Signet of Ghostly Might or Spirit Channeling
D - Avatar of Grenth or Onslaught
P - Angelic Bond or Incoming
imo of course... >.>
R - Quick Shot or Quicksand (also lacerate isnt bad, it just sucks in PvE, and only abused in over hex/condtional builds in PvP)
Mo - Peace and Harmony, Withdraw Hexes, Amity, Word of Censure (your pick, all suck tremendously)
Me - Symbols of Inspiration or Air of Disenchantment
N - Signet of Suffering
E - Stone Sheath
A - Wastrel's Collapse or Mark of Insecurity
Rt - Signet of Spirits, Signet of Ghostly Might or Spirit Channeling
D - Avatar of Grenth or Onslaught
P - Angelic Bond or Incoming
imo of course... >.>
-Lotus-
War - Primal Rage
Ele - Energy Boon
Nec - Flesh Golem (non-elite minions do more damage)
Monk - HB (not that the skill is that bad, but it encourages the worst builds)
Mes - wouldn't know...
Ranger - Archer's Signet (it defeats the point of expertise... yet its an expertise skill)
Rit - Signet of Spirits
Derv - Avatar of Grenth
Para - "The Power Is Yours!"
Sin - Seeping Wound
Ele - Energy Boon
Nec - Flesh Golem (non-elite minions do more damage)
Monk - HB (not that the skill is that bad, but it encourages the worst builds)
Mes - wouldn't know...
Ranger - Archer's Signet (it defeats the point of expertise... yet its an expertise skill)
Rit - Signet of Spirits
Derv - Avatar of Grenth
Para - "The Power Is Yours!"
Sin - Seeping Wound
Striken7
Warrior: Rage of the Ntouka
Ranger: Practiced Stance
Monk: Peace and Harmony
Necromancer: Cultist's Fervor
Mesmer: Symbols of Inspiration
Elementalist: Double Dragon
Assassin: Wastrel's Collapse
Ritualist: Signet of Ghostly Might
Dervish: Vow of Silence
Paragon: Crippling Anthem
Ranger: Practiced Stance
Monk: Peace and Harmony
Necromancer: Cultist's Fervor
Mesmer: Symbols of Inspiration
Elementalist: Double Dragon
Assassin: Wastrel's Collapse
Ritualist: Signet of Ghostly Might
Dervish: Vow of Silence
Paragon: Crippling Anthem
TheDarkshineKnight
Okay, I know archer's Signet is bad, but, worse than Equinox? I mean, what the hell is even the point of Equinox? I can't think of anywhere in the game where you'd run into enough Elementalists to justify using it. Plus, relatively few useful Ele skills cause Exhaustion. I mean, there's Maelstrom and Shock, and that's about it.
HawkofStorms
Equinox's point is to be used with an arcane echoed arcane languor. http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arcane_Languor
But 2 elites to event be functional isn't that great.
But 2 elites to event be functional isn't that great.
TheDarkshineKnight
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Equinox's point is to be used with an arcane echoed arcane languor. http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arcane_Languor
But 2 elites to event be functional isn't that great. I'd argue a couple free attacks is better than a terrible elite that requires another bad elite to function.
But 2 elites to event be functional isn't that great. I'd argue a couple free attacks is better than a terrible elite that requires another bad elite to function.
NeroX
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshuarodger
Ritualist - Clamor of Souls
Dervish - Vow of Strength
im going to mention non-elite skills that are useless here because another thread was closed because of this one even though the other thread was of NON - Elite skills. here i go for Monk, Rit, Sin classes... (based mainly on classes i use)
Monk
DIVINE F
Divine Intervention - watchful intervention clearly clearly kicks this skills rear
Release Enchantments - slightly more health benefit plz
(PvP) Smiters Boon - WTF happened to that skill! 25 energy 90 sec recharge for an enchant that lasts 5 seconds... hmmm am i missing something?
Spell Shield - just no one uses it. cbs going in detail.
Watchful spirit - i know i wouldn't use this mid match
HEAL
Supportive Spirit - for how much health it heals, and for execution condition, 10 energy cost i believe is too high.
Words of comfort - may be good in some cases, but is bad when theres deep wound. id rather use a condition removal spell.
PROT
Convert hexes - too circumstantial for its energy cost. But can be real good if circumstances are met.
Shield guardian - health gain needs to be increased. i know a way to spam this skill constantly without energy loss and yet i believe you'll achieve more with orison of healing. or change functionality to something like...
"For 5 secs target other ally has 75% chance of blocking. That ally is healed for 18...38 health whenever they block"
SMITE
Balthazars Aura - who uses it? but i could be wrong...
Banish - meh ... maybe there should be a pvp version of this spell (more damage).
Judges Intervention - too risky
Reversal of Damage - "For 8 secs, next time enemy hits you, they are damaged for that amount instead and you are healed for double that. (max 5...40)"
Symbol of Wrath - either just cast time to 1, or lessen recharge slightly.
Ritualist
CHANNEL
Agony - useless all round with the exception of using it in RA. dies to quickly otherwise.
(PvP)Ancestors rage - revert to 1/4 cast at least
Lamentation - wow .. conditional with 20 sec recharge for 63 dmg?!? maybe make it 1/4 cast or something.
COMMUNE
Anguished was Lingwah - only good for start of a match
Ghostly Weapon - how many times do you want to spam a skill like this? a redundant skill imo when there are more effective substitutes.
Dulled Weapon - was this skill mainly made to counter assassins?!?! "Hex Spell. For 10 secs, target foe does 4...12 less damage when using attack skills and cannot achieve critical hits."
RESTORE
Ghost mirror Light - Just because i believe its the shittest spell in the restoration category.
Assassin
CRIT
Malicious Strike - i find is only good for wounding strike sin. alterations needed.
Sharpen Daggers - Change back to "when achieve critical hit target for suffers from bleeding". make it a skill that's meant more for assassins. my dulled weapon sounds like its good against something now :P
DAGGER MASTERY
Desperate Strike - increase the conditional aspect "If you have less than 60...80% Health, you deal +15...48 damage" that way you don't need the highest dagger mastery out there.
Horns of the Ox - swap damage output with Trampling Ox's dmg output.
Repeating Strike - useless
DEADLY
Lift Enchantment - needs something else with it...
Vampiric Assault - this belongs in dagger mastery imo.
A suggestion for the War elite 'Hundred Blades': "Skill. For 8 secs, whenever you successfully hit, you hit twice"
Rhamia Darigaz
either my troll senses are tingling or my bad player senses are tingling.
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Quote:
Quote: Originally Posted by bhavv
Ranger - BHA (be a real pro and hit with concussion shot instead, BHA is broken and imba)
let me get this straight.you think BHA is so good you'd call it broken and imba, but you think it's the worst elite?
are we playing by the rules of "guild wars" or the rules of "guild wars ethics according to bhavv"?
Quote: Originally Posted by bhavv
Warrior - Everything sux VS blind spam.
ignoring the obvious fact that this statement betrays your fail as a gamer or as a troll, i'd think you would use this criticism for other classes who suffer significantly from being blinded if you were really that bad. however, that would give me fewer things to lol at so i'm glad you didn't.Quote:
