In my typical RA situation of being against a 3 monk team with six stances each, and a couple wammos and a stance R/D using an axe (What, the hell.) on my team of whom decides to spend the remaining seven minutes after the rest of us have been wiki'd down fagging around using escape, dodge, zojun's haste, natural stride, troll unguent, storm's embrace, and natural healing leaving the rest of the teammates there, yawning, waiting on them, i propose a couple ideas.
In RA:
If there's only one person alive on your team, no dishonor if you leave, except on kill count maps, and priest maps if your priest is still alive.
OR
If you've been dead for over one minute, no dishonor if you leave, except on kill count maps, and priest maps if your priest is still alive.
Downside to this? None. I don't think i need to provide an explanation for something so obvious.
I know most of you are dying to say "no update 4 dis need ALL da work on gw2 nonono" or "QQ QQ QQ QQQ QQQ LOLQQ" or some pseudo-intellectual response containing "QQ", i'm sure we've heard it allll before and i'm looking for at least somewhat constructive responses because i don't know about you but i don't like having my time utterly wasted.
I love being a sitting duck for 6 minutes and all, but here's an idea.
Gift3d
obsidian ectoplasm
Imo,
they should just have RA so its mached up.
R1's vs R1's
R2's Vs R2's
ect ect
but yeah RA american dist is a joke
/signed
they should just have RA so its mached up.
R1's vs R1's
R2's Vs R2's
ect ect
but yeah RA american dist is a joke
/signed
Luminarus
RA is a joke plain and simple.
Dr.Jones
fix syncing. i avoid ra. if i want to ra i just go ab 2 reasons 1 i get sweet sweet side faction for my tiles and 2 its way more random for me to just go tab+ to my party. then ra will ever be. unless of coarse they fix syncing.
Numa Pompilius
My heart bleeds for those - usually assassins - who die instantly, get rezzed, die again, get rezzed, die again, get rezzed, die again, and then have to spend maybe as much as several minutes before the rest of the team, which DID bring at least one defensive or self-heal skill, dies. I fully understand their frustration at the immense unfairness that just because they die they are forced to sit out the match on the bench, when they could have mapped out instantly after the first death and joined a new team with two monks dedicated to keeping them alive.
Truly.
Truly.
Fallen Royalty
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
My heart bleeds for those - usually assassins - who die instantly, get rezzed, die again, get rezzed, die again, get rezzed, die again, and then have to spend maybe as much as several minutes before the rest of the team, which DID bring at least one defensive or self-heal skill, dies. I fully understand their frustration at the immense unfairness that just because they die they are forced to sit out the match on the bench, when they could have mapped out instantly after the first death and joined a new team with two monks dedicated to keeping them alive.
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EDIT: And as for the main point of the article, if some idiot wants to grief, there isn't really anything that can be done. I play toucher and quite often I end up the last person alive, having already used my signet, and can actually grief my way around the map, corner some lone guy who's chasing me, rinse and repeat for the other three, and win one vs. four. Although I understand your plight, in an extremely technical point of view, the griefer is not doing anything wrong because the battle is not yet over so you should not be able to leave without penalty.
jiggles
Just learn to monk. RA becomes lollable.
kupp
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
My heart bleeds for those - usually assassins - who die instantly, get rezzed, die again, get rezzed, die again, get rezzed, die again, and then have to spend maybe as much as several minutes before the rest of the team, which DID bring at least one defensive or self-heal skill, dies. I fully understand their frustration at the immense unfairness that just because they die they are forced to sit out the match on the bench, when they could have mapped out instantly after the first death and joined a new team with two monks dedicated to keeping them alive.
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On topic: removing dishonorable however it may be, will always result in problems, there's tons of ways you abuse a system like that. Imagine if you don't a monk in your team, some wiseass runs towards the enemy back line, let's himself get killed and when the minute expires just leaves. Also, i've won many matches when only one member was alive, so that doesn't mean anything.
/notsigned
zelgadissan
Meh. I see both sides of it. I hate just laying there watching the other team hopelessly chase and then miss when they finally get an attack off. I also think if you leave, you deserve dishonor. There have been at least a couple times as a ranger with only Natty Stride I won a 3 vs. 1 match thanks to Dshot. It's not necessarily the end of the world in that situation.
Anyway, I guess I understand how you feel and would accept your proposals combined. If there's only one person left and you've been dead for over 30 seconds/1 minute/time to use a sig if they have it/whatever, then I'd be fine with it. Either option by themselves would just make RA more of a joke than it already is.
Anyway, I guess I understand how you feel and would accept your proposals combined. If there's only one person left and you've been dead for over 30 seconds/1 minute/time to use a sig if they have it/whatever, then I'd be fine with it. Either option by themselves would just make RA more of a joke than it already is.
Gift3d
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Originally Posted by jiggles
Just learn to monk. RA becomes lollable.
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Nineteen (19) RA matches on my warrior, with no monk. There was one round with a rit that had 7 spirits and mend body and soul, though.
Switch to my monk, first team has 3 monks. Second has 2. Third has a healing dervish and a restoration rit. Fourth had 2 monks again, same with fifth.
It's clear they have some sort of method to just entirely screw you over... why can't they fix it so it isn't broken and is beneficial?
I don't monk in RA. Never will again. It's a bigger waste of time when you have 2 people just healing the hell out of eachother for 8 minutes straight. This is also where i get dishonorable for being reported for leeching in a three monk team.
edit: By the way i just hopped on my monk and entered RA to prove a point. Point has been proven.
http://i35.tinypic.com/2hge2qs.jpg
here to troll
lol gift3d you have a rez sig, on a monk bar, that bar looks pretty interesting, i hope you never monk for me
Abedeus
Here's the problem, I think. Someone using Rez Signet, Mend Touch as the only condition removal, Remove Hex instead of Holy Veil and CoP on almost enchant-less bar complaining about player skill... Strange.
Anyway, signed, as this is annoying. Hope Gift3d won't monk (or heal in any other game) when I'm playing.
Anyway, signed, as this is annoying. Hope Gift3d won't monk (or heal in any other game) when I'm playing.
dilan155
i haven really faced this problem to much, mainly cause i go as a ranger and rangers can survive pretty well, but i can see that someone would get frustrated. /signed
Gift3d
Was that the point of my post, so you people can whine and bitch about my a monk build because it isn't on pvxwiki? Sorry but... NO. I'm sure you know-it-all pvxwiki.com PvE elitists are just awesome and all, but really, just stop, you're not impressing anybody and that's not what the topic is for. Jesus christ i should have just blurred everything but the party screen. Knew you'd find SOMETHING to whine about.
If anyone took their teary eyes off of my skillbar for .02 seconds you could see there are three monks on that team, at the same time which i made that post. Since i have to spoonfeed the rationality behind it to you all, there. Kay!
Welcome to Guild Wars. Enjoy your stay. www.pvxwiki.com
If anyone took their teary eyes off of my skillbar for .02 seconds you could see there are three monks on that team, at the same time which i made that post. Since i have to spoonfeed the rationality behind it to you all, there. Kay!
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Here's the problem, I think. Someone using Rez Signet, Mend Touch as the only condition removal, Remove Hex instead of Holy Veil and CoP on almost enchant-less bar complaining about player skill... Strange. Anyway, signed, as this is annoying. Hope Gift3d won't monk (or heal in any other game) when I'm playing. |
bryann380
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Originally Posted by Luminarus
RA is a joke plain and simple.
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TheGuildWarsPenguin
Kk, we all agree the OPs build is bad to some extent, that he complains about the wiki, and that RA is a joke, but I agree with his ideas. I see no downsides of implementing those 2 ideas.
/signed
/signed
Lykan
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
These are statistics.
Nineteen (19) RA matches on my warrior, with no monk. There was one round with a rit that had 7 spirits and mend body and soul, though. Switch to my monk, first team has 3 monks. Second has 2. Third has a healing dervish and a restoration rit. Fourth had 2 monks again, same with fifth. It's clear they have some sort of method to just entirely screw you over... why can't they fix it so it isn't broken and is beneficial? I don't monk in RA. Never will again. It's a bigger waste of time when you have 2 people just healing the hell out of eachother for 8 minutes straight. This is also where i get dishonorable for being reported for leeching in a three monk team. edit: By the way i just hopped on my monk and entered RA to prove a point. Point has been proven. http://i35.tinypic.com/2hge2qs.jpg |
gameshoes3003
/signed
It's not like people will even avoid using this once it's released.
It's not like people will even avoid using this once it's released.
Vallisahllirium
1. RA matches arn`t so long that u couldn`t wait till the end of one (true there are noobs who will run whole game just to waste your time but I havent seen them so often)
2. RA is fun beacuse it is RA, dunno about synch problem, cause I also dont see too often someone who synched, and its more fun to beat synched people with your completly random team.
3.Last night was playing with 2 teams (R,R,N,W<-with test build
and after that R,R,R,N) we got to 10 wins in no time, it was just hillarious what were we doing to other teams with or without monk, + spirit spammer + whatever. Total anihillation
So point is in fun, dunno maybe it was cause I was listening Belphegor for a change instead of GW sounds
btw, have killed mesmer and warrior while my team was lying dead, so its also fun to have some good twist in game.
4.Gz gifted on your build, RA is good for build testing, and people should learn to have fun even if they lose (after all games are made for that).
2. RA is fun beacuse it is RA, dunno about synch problem, cause I also dont see too often someone who synched, and its more fun to beat synched people with your completly random team.
3.Last night was playing with 2 teams (R,R,N,W<-with test build
and after that R,R,R,N) we got to 10 wins in no time, it was just hillarious what were we doing to other teams with or without monk, + spirit spammer + whatever. Total anihillation So point is in fun, dunno maybe it was cause I was listening Belphegor for a change instead of GW sounds btw, have killed mesmer and warrior while my team was lying dead, so its also fun to have some good twist in game.
4.Gz gifted on your build, RA is good for build testing, and people should learn to have fun even if they lose (after all games are made for that).
pumpkin pie
I was gonna sign this, but then after thinking, I will only /signed this with one condition since players usually will find an exploit to a system, so, unless this is being added together with a report syncher system, with reasons, purposely die so they could leave a match :P
otherwise /not signed
otherwise /not signed
L|S >+>+G+<+<
simple..just add another option in the report section for diots who like to run round when the rest of their team is dead...
maybe.....Report Timewaster
however there will always be some dickhead who will find some way to annoy other people....:/
maybe.....Report Timewaster
however there will always be some dickhead who will find some way to annoy other people....:/
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
Switch to my monk, first team has 3 monks.
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I've been thinking about whether to report it as a bug, but one'd really have to keep a log of every other profession one get grouped with to make sure it's not just some psychological thing, and I can't be assed.
jaximus
first off, to people with names dealing with vegetables and dessert food, shut up. quit whining about syncing. it gets old. get skill and it wont matter one bit if the other team is synced or not. and leave gift3d's bar alone. seeing as they were proving a point with multiple monks (i play monk and i deal with this all the time) they dont need the same skills as everyone else. pointless. and more than one monk cripples your e manage. countless times ive been on a team as a woh/b-light monk and the other is zb. they complain about hitting the targets below 50% so they waste 10 energy. anyway..
the point here is /notsigned. the people that run around all match and dont kill people arent that common from my experience, yes, they are out there, but in the course of an hour, you encounter only a couple. instead of being mad that the people have to lay dead and watch, they should be learning from the player thats alive. wep swaps/stance covers/skill cancels, all those things you can learn. its observer mode while playing!
the point here is /notsigned. the people that run around all match and dont kill people arent that common from my experience, yes, they are out there, but in the course of an hour, you encounter only a couple. instead of being mad that the people have to lay dead and watch, they should be learning from the player thats alive. wep swaps/stance covers/skill cancels, all those things you can learn. its observer mode while playing!
pumpkin pie
jaximus, I forgive you for being rude, however, this thread is the direct result of syncher cheaters, while you think you are very creative in telling people to shut up, you will see more thread whining about RA + syncher because its a problem that need to be taken care of. Yes, the topic may be old and stale, does that makes the problem go away, no, until it is taken care of, any chance of reminding Arena Net that syncher cheaters are bad for their game I will do it.
Might I remind you jaximus, this is not a thread about bragging how good you are at RA. and comments like "get skilled" is very lame attempt to tell people you are skilled, which is not impressive either since its only you talking, also, you haven't met me in RA, how the hell you make a comment like that?
I still stand by my initial /not signed because syncher cheaters will exploit the system.
PS: jaximus, no one can go into observer mode while playing. And might I remind you, every one in RA is trying to learn.
Might I remind you jaximus, this is not a thread about bragging how good you are at RA. and comments like "get skilled" is very lame attempt to tell people you are skilled, which is not impressive either since its only you talking, also, you haven't met me in RA, how the hell you make a comment like that?
I still stand by my initial /not signed because syncher cheaters will exploit the system.
PS: jaximus, no one can go into observer mode while playing. And might I remind you, every one in RA is trying to learn.
jaximus
the people that die and are stuck watch either
a. the remaining people win
b. have someone run around aimlessly wasting time
i dont see how that has to do with syncer cheaters. i must be missing something.
if they sync teams are part of this, either
a. sync team would win quickly
b. failed syncs would leave
still not seeing how it applys
i dont see where i brag about being good at ra. if anything it would be saying that other people are bad.
guru is for players to express their issues with the game (which you have done... many times) and to provide constructive criticism/solutions.
p.s. reread the part where i talked about observer. as one lays dead, they should watch and learn
a. the remaining people win
b. have someone run around aimlessly wasting time
i dont see how that has to do with syncer cheaters. i must be missing something.
if they sync teams are part of this, either
a. sync team would win quickly
b. failed syncs would leave
still not seeing how it applys
i dont see where i brag about being good at ra. if anything it would be saying that other people are bad.
guru is for players to express their issues with the game (which you have done... many times) and to provide constructive criticism/solutions.
p.s. reread the part where i talked about observer. as one lays dead, they should watch and learn