both have the same double shoulder covers, both have the same split robes at the back but then again, the similarites stop there
Elite Luxon = Monument?
AcidDaze
just been looking at the the elite armours for elementalist and noticed how similar both these armours looked.
both have the same double shoulder covers, both have the same split robes at the back but then again, the similarites stop there
both have the same double shoulder covers, both have the same split robes at the back but then again, the similarites stop there
Yol
Most of the armour sets in EotN are re-skins of armour sets from the campaigns...
Sawamura
Yup, it's called 'we're preparing for GW2 so we can't be bothered designing new armor sets' ;-)
Oogami
mm seems more like a mix of pieces with a skin to make them fit together...skirt seems like the elite kurzick one while the top seems to be krytan/elite aeromancers.
No idea about the gloves and boots though ...was wondering if the gloves might be smth new actually.
No idea about the gloves and boots though ...was wondering if the gloves might be smth new actually.
dilan155
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Yup, it's called 'we're preparing for GW2 so we can't be bothered designing new armor sets' ;-)
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Sjeng
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Most of the armour sets in EotN are re-skins of armour sets from the campaigns...
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pamelf
The reskins of EOTN were definitely a disappointment at first. That said I'm slowly getting used to them and the reskin designs are often quite attractive. Still, I'd love to see some more original armour added into the game at some point.
TrippieHippie89
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The reskins of EOTN were definitely a disappointment at first. That said I'm slowly getting used to them and the reskin designs are often quite attractive. Still, I'd love to see some more original armour added into the game at some point.
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not gonna happen
Spazzer
recon54
I believe u mean the Elite Kurzick, not Elite Luxon.
notskorn
I think the norn armors are new but the rest are all reskins. I guess that's all they had done when they decided not to make utopia.
Skyy High
Armors that are not reskins, according to wiki and cursory inspection:
Asuran - Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Rit, Para, Derv
Monument - Everything except warrior, and the male ele.
Norn - All
Deldrimor - I'm not going through and comparing individual pieces to every other armor set, but at a glance many are obviously new
Silver Eagle - obviously, just warrior
And, obviously, all the special headgear and gloves.
But, please, don't let me stop you from QQ-ing about how "all eotn armor is reskinned".
Asuran - Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Rit, Para, Derv
Monument - Everything except warrior, and the male ele.
Norn - All
Deldrimor - I'm not going through and comparing individual pieces to every other armor set, but at a glance many are obviously new
Silver Eagle - obviously, just warrior
And, obviously, all the special headgear and gloves.
But, please, don't let me stop you from QQ-ing about how "all eotn armor is reskinned".
Hyper Cutter
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QFT, most, if not all, EotN armor are re skins if other armor.
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Bryant Again
The only armors that aren't retextures of current armor models are the Norn sets.
Kind of strange, huh? Wonder why they didn't go the same route for the rest.
Kind of strange, huh? Wonder why they didn't go the same route for the rest.
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The only armors that aren't retextures of current armor models are the Norn sets.
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pamelf
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Remember the Norn areas were the ones opened up for the EotN preview weekend, ahead of everything else. Maybe they finished up there faster and had more time to design actual new armor.
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Or they wanted it to look a lot more impressive for the preview weekend than it actually was...
daze
alas, my ele will only look good in his consulate docks armor. I bought a set of elite armor the other day just to display in the HoM but i never wear it.
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Armors that are not reskins, according to wiki and cursory inspection:
Asuran - Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Rit, Para, Derv |
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MithranArkanere
That's on purpose so even a primate could tell an elementalist it's an elementalist just by looking at them.
DarklingKiller
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Umm, what?
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CyberNigma
I think some people may not be familiar with modeling and what reskinning may be referring to here. In the case of the ritualist, think of the two armor sets as being the same exact color. They share the same model (on top of the body model, unlike NPCs which are all a single model). In other words, don't look at the colors as the difference, that's in fact the reskinning of the model. Look at the shape of the armor. For example, Warrior Luxon armor is shaped completely different from the Warrior Plate armor, regardless of what kind of texture it has. The two rits shown above merely have different textures but it looks as though no modeling work was done (necklaces and such are textures which colors in them to make them look transparent at different places).
Looking at the models, there don't look to be any differences whatsoever, well at least none significant that I can tell which would not be accounted to transparency of the overlying texture. I think anyone saying they are greatly different is not completely clear on the difference between textures (the skins) and the models themselves.
Take Spazzer's image as a good example. Just outline the armors since those are the differences you are looking for. Yeah Prophecies did that somewhat as well with some of the armors as well.
EDIT: Btw, my example also brings back to light one of the reasons ANet gave for not making some of the nice NPC armor sets available to players. I recal them mentioning that for NPCs, since most of them don't change armour/clothes, they modeled the armor onto the body as one piece, so it couldn't really be removed like our armor sets.
Looking at the models, there don't look to be any differences whatsoever, well at least none significant that I can tell which would not be accounted to transparency of the overlying texture. I think anyone saying they are greatly different is not completely clear on the difference between textures (the skins) and the models themselves.
Take Spazzer's image as a good example. Just outline the armors since those are the differences you are looking for. Yeah Prophecies did that somewhat as well with some of the armors as well.
EDIT: Btw, my example also brings back to light one of the reasons ANet gave for not making some of the nice NPC armor sets available to players. I recal them mentioning that for NPCs, since most of them don't change armour/clothes, they modeled the armor onto the body as one piece, so it couldn't really be removed like our armor sets.
Cathode_Reborn
When I saw the reskinsEotN armor pics on Photobucket before it was out, I completely assumed that they were just test armors er somethin. I was really stunned when I found out they were the real thing.
The worst part is how they spent so much time talking about and focusing on the dungeons - then those ended up being reskins too. For me, EotN's replay value was really short because of this.
The worst part is how they spent so much time talking about and focusing on the dungeons - then those ended up being reskins too. For me, EotN's replay value was really short because of this.
Shadow Kurd
I remember Gaile saying somewhere that they all looked like each because they are all Tyria-themed, like the ones from the first game. Of course that wouldn't explain why sin,par,rit and derv look like each other
illidan009
Yeah def for example Asuran armor for assassins is the same as Elite Imperial...my sin fortunately did not waste the completed book on Asuran crap.
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I remember Gaile saying somewhere that they all looked like each because they are all Tyria-themed, like the ones from the first game. Of course that wouldn't explain why sin,par,rit and derv look like each other
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Must explain why Asuran necro = Elite Luxon necro
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I think the norn armors are new but the rest are all reskins. I guess that's all they had done when they decided not to make utopia.
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These are all in my opinion:
Warrior Norn = Looks like helmet is from elite sunspear armor. Armor looks like it has some pieces from Vabbian and elite Canthan, with the "furry" look of elite charr hide armor.
Ranger Norn = I really like this armor, it seems plenty new. It just takes the concept of a ranger having "robe-like" armor though.
Monk Norn = Looks new, however, if you take away the very furry appearance, it would look like other non tattoo monk armors.
Necromancer Norn = Looks like Necrotic and Canthan.
Mesmer Norn = Female seems like a lot of the other armor, with the long coat. Male just seems like other armor, with a longer blazer, and a larger collar.
Elementalist Norn = I feel like it is a mix between elite Canthan and Primeval (minus the weird wire stuff).
Assassin Norn = I think it slightly resembles elite Imperial armor.
Ritualist Norn = I love this armor, I think it is original.
Paragon Norn = I think this armor is pretty unique, as the female chest armor does not look just like a bra, and the male chest armor doesn't have an imprint of abs, and the boots seem like they're longer than others.
Dervish Norn = I think this armor is unique, and much more detailed than other dervish armor.
Remember! These are just my opinions.
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Sounds like a Gaileism alright...
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Oh, hey, we got bored while making armors for EOTN, so we just changed the decorations and dangly bits on the current armors.
assassin shaun
monument armor is made up of re skinned parts of other elite armor types
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Armors that are not reskins, according to wiki and cursory inspection:
Asuran - Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Rit, Para, Derv Monument - Everything except warrior, and the male ele. Norn - All Deldrimor - I'm not going through and comparing individual pieces to every other armor set, but at a glance many are obviously new Silver Eagle - obviously, just warrior And, obviously, all the special headgear and gloves. But, please, don't let me stop you from QQ-ing about how "all eotn armor is reskinned". |
Asuran: Typically, full reskins of existing sets:
Monk: Saintly
Mesmer: Female is Courtly. Male I can't identify; could be new.
Ele: Male is Iceforged. Female has new skirt at least
Rit: Seitung.
Para: Possibly based off Elonian, but some differences
Dervish: New skirt, but otherwise Elonian
Monument: In general, composites of individually reskinned pieces - the Warrior is especially obvious. (bleagh)
Ranger: The longcoat shows the same general cut as the Ancient for the female and the Krytan for the male, although some minor changes may have been made. Other pieces I can't be bothered going to the effort of identifying.
Monk: If it is based on something, different enough that I can't pick it.
Necromancer: Krytan torso, Cultist leggings
Mesmer: Female is Rogue top and FoW skirt. Male is Canthan or Shing Jea top.
Ele: Female is Krytan torso with Kurzick skirt.
Assassin: Female is Seitung top and Canthan leggings. Male is harder to pick, but could be a Kurzick torso.
Rit: Luxon torso, FoW leggings
Paragon: Skirts similar to Elite Sunspear without pointy bits, but otherwise different enough.
Dervish: New skirt, but otherwise Primeval
Norn: New - some known to come from Utopia concepts.
Like you, I'm not going to go through Deldrimnor in detail except to say that most of their class-specific pieces are derived from older pieces.