Asuran Scan V.S. "I am the Strongest"

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Frozen Bacon
Frozen Bacon
Academy Page
#1
If you had to take only one out of the two skills mentioned above, which one would you take (given that both titles are maxed)?

Or in other words, which one would result in more dps?

Sorry, I never went beyond Math 100 in college.

Edit: grammer
Marty Silverblade
Marty Silverblade
Administrator
#2
Depends on how much damage you do.

If you do crap damage, +x% will multiply crap into slightly better crap. If you do good damage, +x% will multiply good into very good. You just need to find at which point the multiplication gives more bonus damage than the constant +y.

PS: I find it funny that you edited to fix grammar but didn't spell grammar correctly.
Racthoh
Racthoh
Did I hear 7 heroes?
#3
"I am the Strongest!" against everything that doesn't take forever to kill. Buffed physicals will be able to kill a target in the time it takes Asuran Scan just to recharge.

Asuran Scan also has the aftercast delay which is annoying. In Hard Mode areas with healers and level 30 enemies I'd consider it.
Luminarus
Luminarus
Furnace Stoker
#4
If it was my choice.. I would run with Ebon Battle Standard of Honor instead of either. It buffs everyone around you for slightly less then I Am The Strongest, but lasts unlimited hits (for 20 seconds). It also doesnt go to waste if you change targets (Asuran Scan), and is unremovable.

But out of the two u suggested.... I would go with Asuran Scan in HM, and IatS in NM.
realtalk916
realtalk916
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
keep asuran scan, works great with discord way, since u can just cast a hex on each target you're gonna atk next
Frozen Bacon
Frozen Bacon
Academy Page
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade View Post

PS: I find it funny that you edited to fix grammar but didn't spell grammar correctly.
Hahahha...I guess I failed to mention I didn't do so well in the english department either.

Ebon Battle Standard of Honor

"Notes

* Although the full description says "strike," which would imply it only raises the damage of attacks, this in fact raises all damage done by non-armor-ignoring skills and attacks used while in the ward." - wiki

Does this means that spells like Fireball, Lightning Strike will be affected, but hexes such as Spiteful Spirit and Spoil Victor won't?
Rothan Celt
Rothan Celt
Jungle Guide
#7
I am the strongest > imo its just better

im pretty sure SS and SV would be but ive not tested it.
AcidDaze
AcidDaze
Academy Page
#8
i like asura scan but thats probably cos i done have IATS and my norn rank is crap
Zen1331
Zen1331
Academy Page
#9
For my dervish/necro I use Asuran scan and wounding strike with my discord team. The Asuran scan is the hex and my wounding strike causes the condition and the discord team take care of the rest. And if I'm in area's where there aren't too many fleshy creatures I'll take along enfeeble or weaken armor to help the discord team dish out dmg.
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Obsidian Fissure
Ascalonian Squire
#10
Like in some of the above posts, I like asuran scan more cause it goes well with discord way.
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TheDragonmaster
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
By the wording of EBSoH it should increase the damage dealt by SS (I haven't seen the numbers myself, but I've been in a team where the SS necro brought EBSoH ), however, since SV is health loss rathe than damage, I'm pretty sure it won't be affected.
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beserk
Krytan Explorer
#12
Interesting, never considered using IATS, though asuran scan fits perfectly into my DSLASH SY build. Might test IATS out and see which is more fruitful
Tharg
Tharg
Krytan Explorer
#13
would EBSoH also affect the damage done by the minions when you run Sabway or Discordway?
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Anime Divine
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
WHY!! not take both
seriously its fun to do 100+damage to 200 damage on HM monsters. use it when i vanquish. granted it takes some enrgy but still just wonderfull if you can kill a monk in 3 hits
illidan009
illidan009
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
I use Asuran Scan on my sin...she's only r3 but it help do a shit load of damage using db+ms
Then again, i'd use I am the Strongest on a barrage ranger...depends on the build OP
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#16
Asuran Scan g-g-g-goooooo!
MisterB
MisterB
Furnace Stoker
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozen Bacon View Post
Does this means that spells like Fireball, Lightning Strike will be affected, but hexes such as Spiteful Spirit and Spoil Victor won't?
That is correct. Skills that ignore armor don't get the bonus from EBSoH, or at least that is my understanding of how that skill works. All the skills I have tested in the ward follow that rule.

Bonus damage from attack skills ignores armor, but they are still attacks, so they still receive the bonus.

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Originally Posted by tvalentijn View Post
would EBSoH also affect the damage done by the minions when you run Sabway or Discordway?
Minions are allies, too, so any minion in the ward receives the bonus damage to their attack. Fiends can do some sick damage with that.
isamu kurosawa
isamu kurosawa
Desert Nomad
#18
asuran scan is awesome against bosses, especially dungeon and end game bosses. Its less effective against normal foes in a physical heavy team because things just die too fast.

So to answer your question, it is entirely situational.
dilan155
dilan155
Desert Nomad
#19
there are only a very few things that arent buffed by EBSoH, even traps are buffed as long as it does non- armor ignoring damage. so that would be better than both of those, OT however i would go with asuran scan if you have enough nergy to keep using it.
wind fire and ice
wind fire and ice
Jungle Guide
#20
Depends on what your doing-high armor/very durable foes=asuran scan,every thing else=IATS.