A Quiver

Online Gamer

Online Gamer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

HELL!!

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I was wondering when you are a ranger where do all the arrows come from. A Quiver would be a good addition.

It would be a typical offhand but you would where it over your shoulder or something. It would have an inscription slot and suffix. give you plus armor or IAS like +2%- +10% depending on the rquirements or it could just vary the type of arrow like elemental types or w/e(idea by snaek), which would be expertise or marksman ship.

now im not saying you would have to buy arrows for it but it would be a cool idea. make a ranger a tad bit better,



probable for GW2 but not now(Rak Orgon of Beowulf)
For those who don't know what a quiver is: where a ranger/archer stores its arrows.

FAILURE IDEA!

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

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First of all, arrows come from magic dragons. Second of all, a bow is a two handed weapon, so no "offhand". Third of all, rangers are fairly well balanced, so no real need for a change. Fourth of all, my armor, hair, and cape clip enough without a quiver on my back. So /notsigned.

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

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a quiver usually implies different types of arrows
which, like in other games, emphasizes skill arrow selection for different situations
(very much like an ele's different elements)

the only difference in gw is that an ele has to respec outside of a mission or battle to get different effects
while all a ranger would have to do is weaponswap

while it sounds pretty cool...it would be waaay too op

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

just chillin

Omg Gwen Is Legal [EotN]

yeah i've thought of this before...never had the stones to post the idea.
it'd have been cool if it was like an early update back in the proph days but way too complicated for right now.

/wishicouldsign but.... /notsigned

RedStar

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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/notsigned

Many things would have to change to put that in the game.

[Morkai]

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

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Where do all a Paragons Spears come from. You fix rangers you need to fix paragons also.

AshenX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by the savage nornbear View Post
First of all, arrows come from magic dragons. Second of all, a bow is a two handed weapon, so no "offhand". Third of all, rangers are fairly well balanced, so no real need for a change. Fourth of all, my armor, hair, and cape clip enough without a quiver on my back. So /notsigned.
Amen to the clipping issues.

_Nihilist_

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

Quote:
Originally Posted by the savage nornbear View Post
...a bow is a two handed weapon, so no "offhand". Third of all, rangers are fairly well balanced, so no real need for a change...
Good reasoning here. Besides, where am I gonna stash my shields and offhands if you take away my Heroes' offhand slots when they are wielding a 2H weapon?

I like the idea, but there is no need for this to be implemented, aside from the pure aesthetic (or not, see above quote, point 4 in savage's post) value of having a quiver.

/notsigned

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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/notsigned

clipping issues. lots of work has to be done(you know that there is less then a handful of devs on gw1 now right?). rather have them work on gw2.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Do rangers need to be any better
/notsigned
good Idea for GW2 though

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

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Rangers are already the only balanced prof in guildwars,why should we buff them and make them OP'd?

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Please, for the last time.

Get your lore-inspired silliness out of a PvP game.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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Might be cool to add a quiver that just sits over the back when wielding a bow. Has no effect on gameplay just a purely ascetic thing. But better for gw2...

(Another idea would be to make a preparation necessary, and provide you with 15 arrows (for instance) of that type, and ur next 15 shots have that effect. Then you need to reapply. This would simply screw up with barrage and volley though.

Arcane Spark

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

CT

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Imo if you were to do something at all just make a quiver for each of the armors, just to be there w/ no function so it doesn't look like you are pulling the arrows out of thin air.

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

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As Aiden says..'I never run out of arrows'. I think its a secret ranger thing. Not even know to most rangers!

FYI the post claiming its silly to post lore questions in a pvp game.

I don't think Guru is the least bit silly to have a lore forum. There is
lore,and for pve its an important part of the story line.

That said, not signed. Having to buy arrows would make the class most tedious to play. I don't want to have to carry energy pills to power spells either.

Ant

realtalk916

realtalk916

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Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

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well itd look cool, but then thatd just give more advantages to rangers, like an extra inscription slot and stats, kinda unfiar.

/notsigned

Shinka

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

POEA

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maybe if is just graphic change to the chest peices with a quiver not so bad. Not add quiver as another equipment for ranger.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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1) Clipping
2) Paragon has infinite spears as well
3) Extra piece of equipment makes Ranger more powerful than other classes
4) Clipping

Have you seen capes having issues with Ranger armor? I have. Add another item to the back and you now have that item and the cape to deal with clipping issues. Plus, the cape and the quiver would have clipping issues.

Might have been a nice idea if it was done at the VERY BEGINNING, but now there are far too many armor types to add this in without a HUGE investment of time/money. If they just throw it in fast/cheap, nobody would be happy due to the clipping, and a major QQ would start.

/unsigned for a QQ extravaganza

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

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Long, epic blond hair+norn armor+cape=rabble rabble

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

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Eh, no. Then somehow something else would have to change so you have to craft/buy arrows...no thank you.

Div

Div

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brb sharpening my sword collection.

assassin shaun

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

England

black wolf pirates [awoo]

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i think a quiver would be a good idea but make it so u choose it when creating a character

/signed

MisterB

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Berek
Where do all a Paragons Spears come from. You fix rangers you need to fix paragons also.
Everyone knows that Paragons and Rangers store all their spears and arrows in the same dark nether regions from which flying monkeys emerge. I've heard that flying monkeys come from a hole, but I can't be sure. I think I saw it in a movie.

On topic, the idea of a quiver as either an offhand or for appearance has already been suggested. Search found at least three, and there is a link to a quiver thread in the sticky.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed View Post
Although it wasn't a flying monkey, Bruce Almighty has a butt monkey. Might be the movie you are thinking about.
Yup, that's the one.
Wayne's World works, too. First quote.

MagmaRed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
I've heard that flying monkeys come from a hole, but I can't be sure. I think I saw it in a movie.
Although it wasn't a flying monkey, Bruce Almighty has a butt monkey. Might be the movie you are thinking about.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

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This idea already has been coined several times, while it is logically a good idea the implementation gives problems. Rendering of armor may become problematic with a quiver. It is said to require quite some work to get it working. Therefore:

/notsigned.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Although the string upgrade could be removed an a quiver item could start dropping, there is no need to make a separate item.

You can just replace the upgrade with a 'quiver upgrade', and then make the quiver appear where the models take the arrows out, with different colors depending on the upgrade.

What can't be donne is adding something like a focus item for rangers.

All 70 armor (leather) professions have the same type of weapon: Uses two hands, has a single base property: damage <type> req <0..13>, and then 3 upgrade slots.
Nothing else.
There is no need to change that.

Onion Guy

Onion Guy

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Join Date: May 2008

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The Mentalists [THPK]

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If the quiver only changed the type of damage the arrows did, or something like 10% longer daze and the look of the arrows it would be ok with me. But have to say that there will be alot of problems, so i think it would be better to have it in gw2 if the developers have not got too far into character/armor/weapon design yet. and they could balance it out before anyone starts playing.