ive noticed in the last few days.. people have been Leaving Ra Alot more because of the lack of monks..
and i know dishonorable was put in to stop that.
do people just not care about the hex anymore?
or is it not enough to stop leavers?
Is Dishonorable Not Enough?
Dawn Angelheart
Kashrlyyk
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Originally Posted by Dawn Angelheart
ive noticed in the last few days.. people have been Leaving Ra Alot more because of the lack of monks..
and i know dishonorable was put in to stop that. do people just not care about the hex anymore? or is it not enough to stop leavers? |
Numa Pompilius
I've always been amazed that such a mild punishment's had so big an effect. Before dishonorable it was rare to get to play an RA match with two full teams, nowadays the majority of matches are 4v4.
And even though Dishonorable is so weak, you'll still regularly see threads in Sardelac proposing to remove it.
And even though Dishonorable is so weak, you'll still regularly see threads in Sardelac proposing to remove it.
dilan155
the concept of dishonorable is good but the actual way its implemented contain flaws, it doesnt really stop a majority of players who leave, but it has been fairly effective as far as i can see.
Molock
It does it job well. Nowadays you see a lot less people leaving before the game even starts just so that they can find a team with a monk. People may leave after a game, keeping them until the team leaves would stupid. As it is now, the system is doing ok.
Dawn Angelheart
yeah i think the system is good. its only recently people have been leaving. but i would think the only way to stop them is to lengthen the ban.
which is not always a good thing.
which is not always a good thing.
~End
It's RA. Some people will always complain about team make up, then refuse to go to TA and get a team with the make up he or she wants.
Dishonorable itself is fine. It's hard to fix stupid though, and that's a bug far too many in this world have. >.>
Dishonorable itself is fine. It's hard to fix stupid though, and that's a bug far too many in this world have. >.>
eximiis
The ban should be lenghten by 10 mins if you quit more often. Some sort of stacking effect that goes away by playing.
There is no reason to quit more then 1-2 time in 1-3 hours of playing.
So on you third quiting, you get the dishonable. You quit again, you get an additional 10 mins and more 10 mins stacks if you are a super quitter.
You start playing again and the effect fades away. -1 mins per 10 full match played.
This would make ppl with 1-2 hours ban stop quitting.
Q: is there seriously a real reason to quit 3 times in 2 hours of play ??
Dishonor should be way higher then it is !
You quit or you leech, you don't play !
There is no reason to quit more then 1-2 time in 1-3 hours of playing.
So on you third quiting, you get the dishonable. You quit again, you get an additional 10 mins and more 10 mins stacks if you are a super quitter.
You start playing again and the effect fades away. -1 mins per 10 full match played.
This would make ppl with 1-2 hours ban stop quitting.
Q: is there seriously a real reason to quit 3 times in 2 hours of play ??
Dishonor should be way higher then it is !
You quit or you leech, you don't play !
Zinger314
50% Faction boost for healing classes IMO.
NoXiFy
People leave at the end, like always. They don't get dishonorable points than. I do it all the time, if my team won SOLELY because of me, I leave.
eximiis
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Originally Posted by NoXiFy
People leave at the end, like always. They don't get dishonorable points than. I do it all the time, if my team won SOLELY because of me, I leave.
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Not everyone is on the same skill level. Some are good, some are bad. But everyone would like to play the game.
The problem is RA. Balth faction should not be in RA. You want faction go in TA.
Ppl want to win, get faction the fastest way possible. This is the problem
MisterB
Account bans are clearly in order. I suggest a 3 strikes system. 3 dishonorables within a certain period should result in a 72 hour ban, then 168 hour, followed by a permanent ban. RA is serious business.
All the above is sarcasm, if you can't tell.
Of course the penalty should not be increased, as you cannot always control whether you can finish a match. You can lose your connection, your computer can crash, the power can go out, and any number of real life events can require your full attention instead of the game.
All the above is sarcasm, if you can't tell.
Of course the penalty should not be increased, as you cannot always control whether you can finish a match. You can lose your connection, your computer can crash, the power can go out, and any number of real life events can require your full attention instead of the game.
Da Rk Bl Ad E
If it really bothers you don't play ra...play with people you know, or people you assume aren't terribad
Ratson Itamar
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You are probably in the % that made A-Net put in the Dishonor.
Not everyone is on the same skill level. Some are good, some are bad. But everyone would like to play the game. The problem is RA. Balth faction should not be in RA. You want faction go in TA. Ppl want to win, get faction the fastest way possible. This is the problem |
-_- I really don't want to flame you but it so O' O' hard not to. Don't bash someone because you are, well there's no way around this, a moron. Usually I'm nicer because I think that there's the possibility that you might be a new comer, but a newbie shouldn't make out these kind of absolute statements. How someone can't notice such a clear fact? you have 3 players, one left, you get pissed off and then magically there's a new one at the next match. I mean, I just can't comprehend it, I can't grasp this blindness of yours. Please do me a personal favor and crawl back to where the hell you came from until you grow a brain.
For future posts that will say that his mistake wasn't severe...SHUT UP. This guy need to think before he writes and not the other way around, like now. Don't encourage stupidity.
Issac
Well now we have a higher chance of getting through he first match with the dishonorable system lol.
eximiis
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Originally Posted by Ratson Itamar
Let me make it clear for you; You get new members at the next round if one ore more players leave before they get teleported to new arena, means, before the next match starts.
-_- I really don't want to flame you but it so O' O' hard not to. Don't bash someone because you are, well there's no way around this, a moron. Usually I'm nicer because I think that there's the possibility that you might be a new comer, but a newbie shouldn't make out these kind of absolute statements. How someone can't notice such a clear fact? you have 3 players, one left, you get pissed off and then magically there's a new one at the next match. I mean, I just can't comprehend it, I can't grasp this blindness of yours. Please do me a personal favor and crawl back to where the hell you came from until you grow a brain. For future posts that will say that his mistake wasn't severe...SHUT UP. This guy need to think before he writes and not the other way around, like now. Don't encourage stupidity. |
Quitting as always been a problem. But some ppl abuse it. That's why they put dishonor.
Q: why would you quit ?? because you are teh Almighty "ascalon squire" and you have the right to quit ??
No need for such word my friend !!
I was just saying that quitting is a real problem in RA, was and will always be unless you increas Dishonor or change the dishonor system.
As for loosing connection, computer crash, etc.. i'm pretty sure you computer and connection won't crash 10 time in the next 30 mins, if so .......
Taurucis
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Originally Posted by eximiis
Well say "ascalon squire" !!
Quitting as always been a problem. But some ppl abuse it. That's why they put dishonor. Q: why would you quit ?? because you are teh Almighty "ascalon squire" and you have the right to quit ?? No need for such word my friend !! I was just saying that quitting is a real problem in RA, was and will always be unless you increas Dishonor or change the dishonor system. As for loosing connection, computer crash, etc.. i'm pretty sure you computer and connection won't crash 10 time in the next 30 mins, if so ....... |
Let's say you're monking for three ungrateful snobs. You can't heal them fast enough because they overextend and try to play the hero, they yell at you. You tell them to stay closer, they yell at you. You tell them to take the BB warrior off you, they yell at you.
How about this. You're in an AB with a bucketload of idiots. One person continually spams "MOB MOB MOB WTF GUYS MOB THEYR MOBBING WE GOTTA MOB", two people are cybering in local chat, one group doesn't speak the district's language and are running off doing their own thing...
Would you blame someone for leaving groups like that mid-match?
Sure, leaving may be rude... but IMHO, it is much better to be rude than to be a doormat. You can say sorry for being rude but if you're the doormat, you can't get people to stop stepping all over you.
Vazze
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Originally Posted by eximiis
Ppl want to win, get faction the fastest way possible. This is the problem
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Arkantos
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Originally Posted by MisterB
Account bans are clearly in order. I suggest a 3 strikes system. 3 dishonorables within a certain period should result in a 72 hour ban, then 168 hour, followed by a permanent ban. RA is serious business.
All the above is sarcasm, if you can't tell. |
Anyways, there's no need for a larger penalty. It's RA. Someone leaving is going to lose you some faction and possibly 1 or 2 gladiator points (aka nothing). Chances are someone in your team is going to leave because your team is horrible, which really in the end is saving time, for 8 players. The majority of the time no one will even leave. The current penalty is fine.
jaximus
lol @ taurucis, isnt that the exact truth. i leave occasionally, and i leave my status to online. the people that care enough to whisper me get an explanation and after i tell them, they are fine with it. i only leave if there is something that really demands my attention outside of the game.
as for dishonor, i think its pretty good as is. there are things you cant control, but they come about at times spread out where you shouldnt get dishonor. chronic leavers will trigger the dishonor times so they get the penalty.
as for dishonor, i think its pretty good as is. there are things you cant control, but they come about at times spread out where you shouldnt get dishonor. chronic leavers will trigger the dishonor times so they get the penalty.
TheRaven
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
50% Faction boost for healing classes IMO.
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DreamWind
On the contrary...dishonorable is too much. But thats beating a dead horse.
upier
Man, I keep promising myself to finally move my ass to RA and leave a bunch of games to see how Dishonorable looks (and works) - but then I am like reminded that I'd need to go to RA and well ...
Maybe tomorrow ...
Maybe tomorrow ...
Foe
My only complaint is the lack of a Dishonorable title track
Subjugating Quitter
Kings Ragecase
And so on..
That would be awesome, not to mention it would increase the amount of "leavers" exponentially resulting in more QQ RA threads.
Subjugating Quitter
Kings Ragecase
And so on..
That would be awesome, not to mention it would increase the amount of "leavers" exponentially resulting in more QQ RA threads.
Zera Fang
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50% Faction boost for healing classes IMO.
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ANYWAY! I've noticed that too, people have been leaving RA teams more often lately. I always message leavers that were on my team and call them a, "Twat mongering RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO hole of a douche." Makes me feel better and gives me something to do while I'm raped by the Synched team. Oh, has anyone noticed an increase in synch teams? I saw two yesterday within an hour period... Back on topic, no, dishonorable is fine the way it is. Stop trying to fix things that aren't that broken. How about we skewer the Developers into doing something original for an event for once? Seriously, I just read that there is a huge zombie outbreak in WoW because of their new expansion... And all we get is a Halloween event that was the same as last year and the year before that with different hats. We should have a ZOMBIE brawl, you know, zombies against the uninfected... Either way. I have a horrible time staying on topic.
Arkantos
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...I hope.
Red Sonya
it's much easier just to charge in and die (not making it look on purpose and then not use your rez sig) than take the dishonorable hit, but, sometimes you get silly runners on your team and there's no way you can win and they make the match last the full time limit and that's boring and a waste of time. They need to make it where if the majority of the team resign then the whole team is considered resigned.
Tamuril elansar
RA isn't important enough to change imo, there are bigger problems in the game than ppl who leave a RA game.
Hyper Cutter
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Originally Posted by eximiis
The problem is RA. Balth faction should not be in RA. You want faction go in TA.
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Arkantos
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AKB48
They are few though, not everyone have 87 hours a day to waste. But i agree on lengthening dishonorable, 30-50 minutes should be a healthy dose of punishment.
Vazze
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Originally Posted by Red Sonya
it's much easier just to charge in and die (not making it look on purpose and then not use your rez sig)
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Scythe O F Glory
If it pisses me off, its doing its job.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I've always been amazed that such a mild punishment's had so big an effect. Before dishonorable it was rare to get to play an RA match with two full teams, nowadays the majority of matches are 4v4.
And even though Dishonorable is so weak, you'll still regularly see threads in Sardelac proposing to remove it. |
Dishonor WORKS.
Anybody who says otherwise are either
A) Never played RA seriously prior to dishonor and don't realize how bad it was before
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B) Are the people dishonor is deisgned to punish (OMG no monk, quit, OMG, you guys suck, quit, OMG you have a destroyer weapon, sell it to me NOW. What do you mean no? Quit).