The new drunkard method

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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I know, that for a lot of people the old method involving Guild Hall time zones from certain towns does not seem to work. I personally could never get them to work and so I have found a new way requiring no guild hall.

Through random testing, I have found a method that works. All that it requires is that you take the time to test a few towns until you find a town that works for that day.

NOTE
Just because a town works for one day, does NOT mean it will work the next. I usually have to test each day that I try to use this method to make sure I get a town that works. Once you get a town that works you will usually be able to use it for hours with no problems, most likely until the next day or until you turn off guild wars.

Method
Finding the town is your first step.

Step 1 Choose a Starter Town. This involves picking any town you want, along with any home district you want to choose. Such as Asia, Europe abd America. (note, when I do it I usually start in american server, then change to asia or europe to get my 3 minutes. But you can and should be encouraged to try different starting/ ending regions such as asian to europe or asia to american etc.)

Step 2 Drink to level 5 (you will always drink from your "home district"

Step 3 Go to district list and change to another server, if you start in american try going to europe or asia. If you start in Asia, try europe or american etc.

Step 4 If you received 3 minutes then go back to your Starter Town and start over until you use all your booze. If you did not receive 3 minutes, go to step 5. You have to continue going back to the starter district because it only works 1 way.

Step 5 Wait out the remaining minutes and find a new town/ new server to start in and try again until you find one that gives you 3 minutes on zone. The ones that work will always give you 3 minutes instantly, never 1 on zone and then 2 on return. You can use this time to go back to starter district and then zone to a different town/ district. But it is harder to know if you ended up in only a half district because you'll only get 2 or 1 minutes randomly. Thus why I prefer to usually wait until I know for sure it's a 3 minute town.


This method has worked for me dozens of time. Finding the right towns/ home servers can take some time, but once you get it to work it usually seems to work for quite a few hours/ until the end of the day. Please note though, that it may be possible that they will change if you turn off gws and come back on. So always when your unsure of check your first few zones to make sure you get your 3 minutes.

Disclaimer
I am in no way responsible for loss of ale/ minutes if you do not pay attention and check to make sure the town you are using is working.

I do not want dozens of pms, asking for towns because I do not know. The windows in these towns change all the time and do not follow any daily/ weekly schedule. Every day is random and will require a lot of testing on your part.

If anything is unclear, you can post questions in this thread. If you would like, you can state which town/ starter district is working for you for others to try but always be aware to check your minutes. It may not work the same for everyone, even at the same time.

Smurf Minions

Smurf Minions

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Somewhere you can't see

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Looks worth a try!

Just a little question:

I start in europe, drink to lvl 5 then go to america to see i have 3 more minutes, can i before i rezone to europe drink again to lvl 5 and gain again 3 mintues, or does it only work 1 way (europe -> america) on that time?

The Mountain

The Mountain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Realm of the GWAMMs

Teh Academy [PhD]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurf Minions View Post
I start in europe, drink to lvl 5 then go to america to see i have 3 more minutes, can i before i rezone to europe drink again to lvl 5 and gain again 3 mintues, or does it only work 1 way (europe -> america) on that time?
I can't definitely tell you one way or the other since exceptions can't be ruled out. However, when I used this method, the immediate results only occurred one way. Annoying, but still quite an improvement.

NOTE: Many people often think that if they zone and don't receive 3 minutes instantly that they must wait in the same district before zoning again or else lose the uncounted minutes. That's not true. The minutes keep counting, even if the visual effects vanished.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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It only seems to work 1 way. Also, when you try in the town for the first time. The minutes as stated by Mountain, will keep going no matter how many times you zone.

Take that time on your mess up to try going back to your starter district and then zoning to a different town and different ending district. If you notice that you get your last 2 minutes or 1 minute quicker than normal, then try it again and see if it is indeed a 3 minute zone.

MatiPK

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Someone know any working town today?

SilentGaiden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

Lords and Warriors[LAW]

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Does this really work I tried many towns the other day none gave 3mins instantly how long does it take to find a town that works

noneedforclevernames

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Jay To Much [SrE]

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Can you drink just one Flask of Firewater to get your 3 minutes, because in the previous meathod you need 2 Firewaters and 2 1 minute alcohols if I remember correctly. Also, can it be done with 3 1 minute?

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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You just drink 1 lvl 5 (flask of firewater, spiked eggnog, aged dwarven ale) and zone and when you get the right town you'll instantly get 3 minutes. Then you go back and do it all over again and keep getting 3 minutes for each level 5.

You can use 5 level 1s but it is a lot more clicking so it's best to try and stick with the most level 5s you can get.

I will work on locating some towns but I don't really know for sure if it differs from person to person. Some towns I used to try were zin ku corridor, gunnar's, imperial sanctum, cavalon. Also have to try different starting servers and ending, so you may not get 3 minutes from say asia to america but could get it from asia to europe or europe to asia.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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I have a small question though.. If I zone and I don't get the 3 minutes instantly, do I always get them eventually? For example, I zone from eu LA to am LA and don't get the 3 at once, if I stay in am LA for 3 minutes do I always get them in the end or can I really lose a lot of ale this way?

Sorry for sounding dumb but it was a bit unclear..

Mordiego

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

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what a useless thread....so U basically wrote us to search for windows... the same thing that has been used for ages. U made no discoveries that would set any new light on how to find them. Totally pointless.
Complete informations on "drinking windows" plus the most recent thread on new window finds is here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10108169

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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This isn't about guildhall windows and I in no way copy the guildhall method which for a lot of people can't get it to work.

The guildhall trick worked for pretty much say 50% of the people? That is being generous and this can work for 100% of the people. Most could not get the guildhall trick to work, this is a lot simpler and doesn't require specific "windows of time every minute" once you find a town that works it's an open window for hours on end(if not the rest of the day).

It isn't like I copy and pasted the other thread saying how to use a different guildhall.

With this method once you find a town that works, you can go back drink and go back all you want, no windows, no timezone problems just a zone and bam 3 minutes. It's that simplicity and availability that made me make this thread to help the people who can't get the guildhall method to work.

By the way ajantis you will get your 3 minutes if you zone and don't get them, you just have to wait the rest of the 3 minutes. I don't believe you can actually "lose the minutes" unless perhaps you log off right after drinking? But again I am not sure as to that.

The method is just so you'll get your 3 minutes within a couple of seconds (once you zone to the right zone it'll be instantly) so then you can go back and get a lot more drunkard minutes than possible by normally waiting them out.

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

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i maxed out drunk title by doing a very simple process

required

ale
guild hall
and decent internet connection

what you do is open your inventory, turn on your bot. and go to sleep, come back after work.

do this for 2-3 weeks. youll have 10k pts

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight View Post
This isn't about guildhall windows and I in no way copy the guildhall method which for a lot of people can't get it to work.

The guildhall trick worked for pretty much say 50% of the people? That is being generous and this can work for 100% of the people. Most could not get the guildhall trick to work, this is a lot simpler and doesn't require specific "windows of time every minute" once you find a town that works it's an open window for hours on end(if not the rest of the day).

It isn't like I copy and pasted the other thread saying how to use a different guildhall.

With this method once you find a town that works, you can go back drink and go back all you want, no windows, no timezone problems just a zone and bam 3 minutes. It's that simplicity and availability that made me make this thread to help the people who can't get the guildhall method to work.

By the way ajantis you will get your 3 minutes if you zone and don't get them, you just have to wait the rest of the 3 minutes. I don't believe you can actually "lose the minutes" unless perhaps you log off right after drinking? But again I am not sure as to that.

The method is just so you'll get your 3 minutes within a couple of seconds (once you zone to the right zone it'll be instantly) so then you can go back and get a lot more drunkard minutes than possible by normally waiting them out.
People should read all that carefully. Unless a-net nerfed it recently, it's exactly as he said.

I maxed my drunkard title using this method, not the old "x seconds window every minute". It was some time ago, but I regularly got 1000's of points in just 2-3 hours. I usually ran out of alcohol before a zone stopped working.

You just have to find a location that works. This may take time, but you lose no alcohol minutes while doing this. You simply gain points at the regular rate until you find a working location. When searching, I typically tried:
a) travelling between towns that are adjacent or close to each other so that rezoning would be easier. (same districts eg. euro english)
b) rezoning between different districts of the same town eg. International to Euro English
c) walking out the door of a town and back (Gunnars Hold into Norrhart Domains worked at one time)

Quote:
Originally Posted by noneedforclevernames View Post
Can you drink just one Flask of Firewater to get your 3 minutes, because in the previous meathod you need 2 Firewaters and 2 1 minute alcohols if I remember correctly. Also, can it be done with 3 1 minute?
Firewaters used to give 3 levels of drunkeness, but they now give 5. So if you have a working location, you only need one firewater each time.

Three 1-minute alcohols will only give you one point. To get three points at once, you'd need FIVE 1-minute alcohols each time. This is why firewaters, spiked eggnogs, and aged dwarven ales are better - quicker and no wastage vs "regular" usage. Five 1-minute alcohols "wastes" two each time, vs "regular" usage. If you don't understand why, read up about drunkeness on wiki.

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

looks worth a shot ty for posting.

Mordiego

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
...what you do is open your inventory, turn on your bot. and go to sleep, come back after work...
I thought ppl can't get more ridiculous. I was wrong, I guess. Elite Guru? pfff. At least the nickname is accurate.

As for U, Mercenary; the Binge Guide says not only about the GH windows. In the later parts ppl post their dicoveries in gaining minutes through zoning, exactly like U suggested. The initial post says only about GH windows. the rest of the thread offers multiple solutions for the problem.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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I understand that later they added posts about zoning through portals. But there wasn't hardly any (if any) that I saw that talked about staying in the same town and using different districts (asia, europe, international etc.) to get the same effect.

Also, most people who read that thread go to the first page and the last page, reading every single page for a new technique that wasn't originally added to the first page results in people not knowing the technique. I didn't take credit for inventing this concept. I just took the ideas and one day decided to go into gunnar's hold from america, drink zone to europe and got 3 minutes.

The point of this thread is to introduce another approach for drunkards to get minutes, without spending all of their time reading every page in the drunkard method (which was originally only for gh windows).

If this wasn't helpful or was easily accessible in the other thread than the moderator wouldn't have allowed it to be posted. This is just an aid that is more accessible and easier to find.

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordiego View Post
I thought ppl can't get more ridiculous. I was wrong, I guess. Elite Guru? pfff. At least the nickname is accurate.

As for U, Mercenary; the Binge Guide says not only about the GH windows. In the later parts ppl post their dicoveries in gaining minutes through zoning, exactly like U suggested. The initial post says only about GH windows. the rest of the thread offers multiple solutions for the problem.

which shows why your dumb. drunk bot is allowed by the anet rules and guidelines.

nice joke

Mordiego

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
...drunk bot is allowed by the anet rules and guidelines...
No comment.
http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...-agreement.php
Quote:
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Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Actually I believe anet said they really dont care, because its not gaining an advantage like farming faction or loot with a bot.

My method: Drink and Play

Minutes Drunk: ~ 8000
Minutes wasted trying to get drunk: 0

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

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^^ hes smart. anet already came out and said drunk bot and texmod are not going to get you banned as they do not effect the server side gameplay

but nice joke fake CCCP guy.

??iljo

??iljo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

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So basically, you are in 1 outpost changing districts?

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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That is the basic part of it, it's just finding the correct town and starting district/ ending districts to trick the server and giving you your instant 3 minutes.

Once you find the right one it always gives instant 3 minutes and you can go back and do it over and over till you care to stop. Most likely when you log off it may not work, or it generally doesn't work the next day in same town.

By the way, a.net has stated that any macro or bot which can be used without human interaction is against eula. This involves a drunkard bot and anything else where you can go afk and have it automate everything for you. So you can be banned for a drunkard bot. The likeliness is probably very small and hard to detect (unless it goes for 10+ hours straight). But I would still rather do this or another method in speeding up the drunkard minutes than risk a ban.

Darcryed

Darcryed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

I got a question : let's say you reach level 5 and get your three minutes using that method or the whole guild hall or window thing, are you at level 2 ? or you really gotta start all over again ?

Because if this is the case, I prefer standing in my guild hall and chat while I drink every three minutes, rather than wasting a lot of booze trying to find the right outpost and losing 200 gp everytime I zone.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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Once you get your 3 minutes the drunkard way hits 0 so you have to drink back to 5. The reason is most people who max the title don't want to spend 10,000 minutes afk clicking alcohols nonstop.

So they stockpile on level 5 alcohols, use one of the methods and waste a few levels of drunkenness to achieve the title in like 1/4th the time. I remember one day I went up like 800-1000 minutes in like an hour.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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been trying for a few days now.. still haven't found a town that gives +3 instantly. Guess just clicking them away is faster than finding one

Darcryed

Darcryed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Ok thanks, I guess I will have to save more than 1M then.

How much time does it usually take you to find a working outpost ?

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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I haven't done it in a while, but back when I had done it it generally took less than 5-10 minutes. I generally tried stuff like gunnar's hold (different starting and ending districts), house zu heltzer, zin ku corridor, thunderhead keep.

I try to find random towns which result in hardly any people so that if it does work the zoning goes quicker because there isn't that many people to load.

I will attempt to try it some more, just been sick lately and haven't been able to play much from all my finals.

So in my opinion, try out of the way towns that people generally don't visit or hang out in. You could try serenity temple for prophecies, maybe one of the realm of torment areas (the challenge mission or the town next to it, forgot name). Canthan can try maybe some kurzick areas or whatever you feel like trying.

Not that there's a higher chance of them working, but if they work then it'll be quicker to do the zoning. If out of the way towns don't work then work on perhaps different mission towns.

Always try a lot of possibilities for each town. america-europe america-asia america-int etc. Then repeat for like internationa-america/-europe/-asia. For me when I had started I believed I had luck going from america-europe.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight View Post
So they stockpile on level 5 alcohols, use one of the methods and waste a few levels of drunkenness to achieve the title in like 1/4th the time.
1/4? More like 1/12th or 1/15th.

In a good spot I would be getting 12 - 15 points per minute. (a fast loading zone, and my UI re-arranged specifically to minimise mouse movement and speed up rezoning)

At that rate you'd go from zero to max title in less than 14 hours... Instead of 167 hours... now you understand why people are prepared to "waste" a couple of levels?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ANet
Fixed a bug that caused drunk effects to fade after zoning
That's what it said in the latest update notes... but what does it mean, exactly? Is it just a visual thing (I would never have noticed, I turned off post-processing so I could be drunk during regular play)? Or did they fix this whole "instant 3-minutes" method? Or what?

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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Yeah I got lazy and don't actually want to do the math. I have a feeling the bug is that if you have post processing effects on and you zone while drunk. The next time you drop a level the effect re-appears. My guess would be that now even when you zone before you drop a drunk level it still stays up.

It says drunk effects, my bet would be it's just the post processing effects. For a.net saying they want to "reduce grind and what not" I think it'd be kinda the opposite if they did indeed fix the 3 minute drunkard in an instant thing.

D A R K S O I F O N

D A R K S O I F O N

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

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Unexpected Advantage (UA)

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where about can u get the highest level of drinks in this game and for wat cost?

AtomicMew

AtomicMew

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
which shows why your dumb. drunk bot is allowed by the anet rules and guidelines.

nice joke
That's actually false. Here's gaile's response.


In my opinion, botting does not become more palatable because there are fewer rewards in comparison to other bot uses. It's right, or it's wrong, and I feel it's wrong. But what I feel, as a gamer, isn't important. You ask if someone could be banned for the use of such a program. The answer is yes. That person could be actioned. The Drunkard bot is not as pernicious a botting for gold, but it's still a block-able offense. How you handle that on a guild level is entirely up to you. There's no guarantee that the person will be caught and punished. I would even go so far as to say that it is not a high priority to catch such a person. However, there's no guarantee that he will not be banned, and should a ban be put in place, there would be no legitimate appeal that would override it.
I'm awfully sorry if that sounds harsh or unreasonable. Hopefully the changes to the titles and the raising of other types makes it less likely that someone will venture down the bot path in the future, but I'm more than willing to hear your recommendations on this matter. --Gaile 06:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

ightgg

ightgg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by traversc View Post
In my opinion, botting does not become more palatable because there are fewer rewards in comparison to other bot uses. It's right, or it's wrong, and I feel it's wrong. But what I feel, as a gamer, isn't important.
'nough said.

-Rit <3

Snograt

Snograt

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Thanks for finding that quote, traversc - I've been looking for that for ages

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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The issue over whether this should/could be botted or not would become pretty trivial if they just changed the drunk consumption and point gain to be similar to Sweet Tooth and Party Animal, but that's another issue.

It seems like your system for gaining drunk minutes involves you moving from one regional district to another. How would this be any different from, say, starting in an Asian-based district and warping back and forth to a European-based guild hall?

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
The issue over whether this should/could be botted or not would become pretty trivial if they just changed the drunk consumption and point gain to be similar to Sweet Tooth and Party Animal, but that's another issue.

It seems like your system for gaining drunk minutes involves you moving from one regional district to another. How would this be any different from, say, starting in an Asian-based district and warping back and forth to a European-based guild hall?
Because for some people guild halls don't work and not everyone has guild halls. Also, instead of having a 10second window in most guildhalls before the regional change. When I have used this before it's a 100% open window when you find one that works.