callin masters of discord way

realtalk916

realtalk916

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

W/E

is the pvx wiki discord spam, the best way to use it?

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Discord_Spam

or have you guru's found improvements replacing certain skills with others.
let me know plz. i used search. i think theres another thread much like this, but i couldnt really get the answer i was looking for.

realtalk916

realtalk916

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

W/E

i see.. hmm well if its as reliable as u say then maybe i'll just go with that stock set up

SkekSister

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

Brighton UK

Stock setup works just fine.

You can help the discord spammers along if you take some AoE hex and condition spells. Shadow of Fear, Weaken armour, Enfeebling blood, technobabble are all good.

The one and only place I have found I couldn't vanquish with this setup was the 4 man Eastern Frontier. The Grawl healers required I took a mesmer to take em down.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

To be honest im not sure if your friend can "make" discordway, all it requires is for 3 heroes to take discord and for hexes/conditions to be supplied somewhere. Pretty much as soon as Discord was buffed people were experimenting with it, and it was about a day before the suggestion to use 3 discord spammers was posted on this forum. Every skill other than discord is optional, ritualist healing spells are used as they're solid at 10 spec and so dont impede the investment in death magic.

Tailor the build to your tastes, if you play a healer, take less healing and more offense. If you're a physical, slip splinter weapon in there. Its up to you basically.

Anime Divine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/

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a friend who used to be in my alliance is the one who created it.
He got his legendary vanquisher title using that one.
I don't know if it's the best, but it definetly works. lol or so he says.. i could say that for myself been using it before i ever read it on these forums.
instead of 3 i use 1 cos i like curses en necro/resto (splinterweapon) and they are specially runed with superior

i have no opinions on discord it helps i only put it there cos my livia happened to be on 16 death magic and is a mm duh so i figured

discord
animate bone minions(yes only one cos u only need one)
death nova
putridbile (consider this mini death nova)

rest optional skills monk resto rit whatever

dasmitchies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Sacred Forge Knights

W/P

I am using this now for my chars. My bar setup is Assassins promise followed by YMLAD and then Finish him. The rest of my char's skillbar is based on the main profession. This is by far the best setup I have been able to use. Call ur target, use sin's promise then immediatly YMLAD then finnish him when prepared. Rinse and repeat.

Bloodseeker

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

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a friend who used to be in my alliance is the one who created it.
He got his legendary vanquisher title using that one.
I don't know if it's the best, but it definetly works. Don't talk shit, i am the one who created it.

Capua

Capua

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

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Don't talk shit, i am the one who created it. Yeah, me too.

And discord is good, but in my own experience I found Sabway works better.

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

That wiki version is.... alright. the thing about discord is that its so flexable you can do whatever you want. I pretty much end up with a different build for every area i go to. dipping into at least 3 attribute lines is a good idea though, no reason for 2 restos.





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Don't talk shit, i am the one who created it. and me! trying to claim credit online (espically for something put on a wiki) is stupid. cut it out.

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

Considering Discord covers your damage needs, the rest of your heroes bar's is quite flexible. I'd throw in a few more defensive than the wiki one has - namely Enfeebling Blood, unless you want to rely solely on minions which can be risky at times. You'll also want decent hex and condition coverage to meet the requirements for Discord. Some skills to consider would be Rotting Flesh, Suffering, Malign Intervention and Vereta's Gaze.

Zen1331

Zen1331

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2008

Canada

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

N/

Discord is fun. I too joined the 3 necro discord army and my Derv char helps with Asuran scan and wounding strike and when I blink the lvl 20 enemies die. With my Rit I throw parasitic bond and weaken armor and enemies go down quick. As long as you call the target and meet the condition and the hex the heros are smart enough to cast it.

Only time I change up my team is when I'm in a hex heavy area, I'll bring Talhkora who's set up as a protection monk or good ol' Gwen who can shutdown casters fast.

Stuart444

Stuart444

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Alexandria, Scotland

The Charter Vanguard [CV]

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I just put discord on my sabways build, replaced a few certain skills, did a few mods to the attributes so death magic went up to 13/14 at least, and there...I had 3 discord heroes

the builds are very flexible so I use the builds I originally put on my necros as a base and then modify it depending on if I need certain things for certain areas.

Absinth187

Absinth187

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

32??45′26.49″N, 97??19′59.45″W

Some Like It Hot [sake]

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and me! trying to claim credit online (espically for something put on a wiki) is stupid. cut it out. Me thinks he was being sarcastic...at least I hope he was.

Chokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

[ToA]


^ is what I've been running in HM.

Mesmer hero has plenty energy management and dont need to say about the necros, I find bringing an interrupter along helps massively,especially versus annoying casters,and she brings extra conditions and some enchantment removal. I use a mesmer over one of the N/Rts because she makes a sturdy support character at the cost of ~15 damage. Go figure.(I only use 14 Death on the Necros.Wtbmoarhelfplox)

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

Get used to how discord teams work with the pvx one, then change it to get the full potential of death/curse necros.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

The pvx one is far from the best setup you can use (bad attribute splits and rotting flesh 3seccasting wastes time), although it works. There are numberous variants posted all over this forum.

If you want a good backup hex+condition malign intervention and enfeebling blood are good options. you can also run veratas gaze on a discorder who has no minion spells to increase your army.

realtalk916

realtalk916

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

W/E

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Get used to how discord teams work with the pvx one, then change it to get the full potential of death/curse necros.
that sounds like a good idea

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

I hope people post their own optemized variants of discordway. I am currently trying to make my own 6 man version. Except I want to rely on an ap character for the conditions and hex requirements. Anything else would be added as extra. For example, barbs hex and malign intervention for a free minion and damage from vanguard sin support.

I figure it'll help speed up kills to only focus on discord/ 1-2 hexes or like enfeebling blood for defense. The more utility spells the better. As long as it doesn't distract them from their discord spam.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

I made two man discordway, I win. <3 Giv meh fame!!!!

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

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^ is what I've been running in HM. You're better off running that on a Nec - all those interrupts work well at 0 spec. With SR, you won't need any e-management so you can drop Power Drain/Leech Sig for faster-recharging interrupts like Power Return.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

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You're better off running that on a Nec - all those interrupts work well at 0 spec. With SR, you won't need any e-management so you can drop Power Drain/Leech Sig for faster-recharging interrupts like Power Return. The main reason why I'd do this though isn't the fact that the mesmer doesn't bring anything special (I am currently also using Genny as my Discord gal and there is not much wrong with her) - but the fact that I really dislike running minions, BotM and DN on the same character. Unless you disable DN - the necros spam it and instead of pressing BotM when the minions are losing HP they use DN instead.
By exchanging Gwen for a Oli - you get 14 in Death - and then you can exchange DN with Rend (although I run multiple Rips as I don't bother running SolS these days) on these two guys. So when the non-MM spams DN, the MM uses BotM.

The biggest shame with the skill interrupts though is the fact that the heroes seem to use them for spells only ...
But still nice to have them and micro-manage their use sometimes (I HATE those Giant Stomps ).

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

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You're better off running that on a Nec - all those interrupts work well at 0 spec. With SR, you won't need any e-management so you can drop Power Drain/Leech Sig for faster-recharging interrupts like Power Return. What he said, also, lacks putrid bile D:

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

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You're better off running that on a Nec - all those interrupts work well at 0 spec. With SR, you won't need any e-management so you can drop Power Drain/Leech Sig for faster-recharging interrupts like Power Return.
Unless he drops the enchantment rip and adds a corpse jump like [consume corpse]

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

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Unless he drops the enchantment rip and adds a corpse jump like [consume corpse] Whaaa?! O___o

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

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Whaaa?! O___o Yeah it’s crazy… I actually had dunk tiring it out this weekend and he seems to use the skill ok. They don’t seem to overuse it. And it gives 17 energy a jump. Granted I had the balance of my heros running necro/rit and minion master / rit. They probably kept his arse alive. But it lets other characters flow better energy as long as the kill count is high

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

You know i made a discord way with no discord!!!!!! Wheres Meh fame!

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

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The main reason why I'd do this though isn't the fact that the mesmer doesn't bring anything special (I am currently also using Genny as my Discord gal and there is not much wrong with her) - but the fact that I really dislike running minions, BotM and DN on the same character. Unless you disable DN - the necros spam it and instead of pressing BotM when the minions are losing HP they use DN instead.By exchanging Gwen for a Oli - you get 14 in Death - and then you can exchange DN with Rend (although I run multiple Rips as I don't bother running SolS these days) on these two guys. So when the non-MM spams DN, the MM uses BotM.

The biggest shame with the skill interrupts though is the fact that the heroes seem to use them for spells only ...
But still nice to have them and micro-manage their use sometimes (I HATE those Giant Stomps ). There really is no reason to put BotM on the Discord MM's bar because you mobs drop pretty quick so enough there is aways a fresh supply of corpses for more. Plus you can always take healer henches and they will heal the Minions in between fights.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

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There really is no reason to put BotM on the Discord MM's bar because you mobs drop pretty quick so enough there is aways a fresh supply of corpses for more. Plus you can always take healer henches and they will heal the Minions in between fights. The guy I was replying to has it.
I also bring it - then again - I also bring Fiends (on top of Minions).
So IF one does bring it (depending on one's team build of course) - I would advise against putting it on the same skillbar that also has DN.

Saraneth

Saraneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Me/

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Unless he drops the enchantment rip and adds a corpse jump like [consume corpse] Probably not a good idea to place consume corpse or necrotic traversal in with the discord setup. It would cut down on the necs' minion wall and send Dunkoro (in your case) into the fray.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

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Yeah it’s crazy… I actually had dunk tiring it out ARGHHH, Stop abusing you dunk, hes an old man you know! :O