Hi all,
I've seen many videos and read a few articles about Aion, the new NCsoft stunningly beautiful flagship (open beta has started in Korea). In many aspects, Aion struck me by its similarities with GW, just to name a few:
- great "realistic" graphics based on nice artwork
http://eu.aiononline.com/en/conceptart
- nice music http://eu.aiononline.com/en/music
- storyline-driven, with voice cut-scenes and button for locating the goal of a quest
- an "ascension" as in Prophecies (this is when you get your wings)
- very similar classes: Ranger, Assassin, Cleric (monk), chanter (paragon), spiritmaster (ritualist), sorcerer (elementalist), gladiator (warrior), templar (dervish?)
- factions that battle for controlling outposts and territories
- PvEvP à la AB/FA/JQ (the Abyss reminds me of the Mist mentioned in GW)
- skillbar-based gameplay
- second class skills through stones
...and more...
Of course, there are other numerous differences (character customisation, combo chain, crafting, non-instanced world?, likely monthly fee), Aion is its own game and I have no real idea how the gameplay compare. But I'm wondering whether there's something from Anet behind it... (NOTE NOTE NOTE: this is me asking a question, it's in NO WAY a subliminal suggestion that Anet or GW2 are behind Aion, let's not start or propagate rumors...) What do you think?
P.S.: I don't know if I'm having visions, but I've been looking at The Chronicles of Spellborn lately, and I can also find a lot of commonalities...
Aion and GW
Fril Estelin
Gwmaster
:O looks quite nice imo
Horus
no, it's NC soft behind both games 
NC soft is making Aion and was part of GW project (publisher i think). Aion has great potential and i'm really looking forward to try it, but it's only coming to Europe in like 6-8months - still before GW2 
NC soft is making Aion and was part of GW project (publisher i think). Aion has great potential and i'm really looking forward to try it, but it's only coming to Europe in like 6-8months - still before GW2 FoxBat
Guild Wars repackaged for Asia maybe? (Yes there were some Korean pros, but the game seemed a flop outside of that.) Or else the first "GW Clone".
pamelf
The first Aion screenshots came out just when GW was originally released. Or close to that date anyway. It's been in Beta for agess now. It most certainly has nothing to with GW2. It was around WAY before GW2 was even a glint in the dev's eyes.
It does look very impressive though. And if it weren't pay to play i would definitely give it a go.
It does look very impressive though. And if it weren't pay to play i would definitely give it a go.
4thVariety
Combat is really different from what I saw during Games Convention. Sure, you simply stand in front of the enemy and exchange blows. There was no layer of the game that made you react to what the enemy was doing (i.e. no active blocking). If you got Level +1, then you should win. The main feature of combat was a combo system. The Gladiator had a skill tree and if you clicked on the first skill, then it branched off and you had to choose what to use as secondary attack. That affected your choice of the third attack and so on and so on, deeper into the tree we go.
Different recharge times prevented you from simply executing one combo over and over. It's a great system if you think of bringing an MMO to a console and speak to a more action oriented crowd coming from PSO or even Too Human. It remains to be seen how the PC crowd will respond to that.
Different recharge times prevented you from simply executing one combo over and over. It's a great system if you think of bringing an MMO to a console and speak to a more action oriented crowd coming from PSO or even Too Human. It remains to be seen how the PC crowd will respond to that.
upier
Yeah, I was like - woo-hoo!
And then I was like:
And then I was like - girlfriend, no.
So now - I don't follow it anymore.
And then I was like:
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likely monthly fee
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So now - I don't follow it anymore.
Nightow
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Yeah, I was like - woo-hoo!
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Well, here's hoping for a private server or something I guess or until then, I'll just stick with Atlantica Online. (Similar graphics to GW but better crafting among other things)
Another Felldspar
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Hi all,
P.S.: I don't know if I'm having visions, but I've been looking at The Chronicles of Spellborn lately, and I can also find a lot of commonalities... |
TwinRaven
NCSoft also announced "Blade & Soul" back in late July...nothing to go on but a video, basic description and a shell of a website...Character design is very similar to Aion. I'm hoping that we will see similar quality in character and environmental design in GW2. Looking at Spellborn, I'd say it's more Dungeon Runners meets WoW by the looks of it (actual gameplay, dunno...but the design has similar visual qualities).
I'm pretty big on free-to-play games, so Aion may just have to go on without me. At the same time, I'm not holding my breath for GW2. I've moved on to Requium and Perfect World Int. for the time being...I figure if I'm going to grind, it isn't going to be for a title that may or may not be worthless in a game that may or may not come out in the next 2-3 years. I've got better things to do than farm for titles, like actually PLAY a game for FUN!
I'm pretty big on free-to-play games, so Aion may just have to go on without me. At the same time, I'm not holding my breath for GW2. I've moved on to Requium and Perfect World Int. for the time being...I figure if I'm going to grind, it isn't going to be for a title that may or may not be worthless in a game that may or may not come out in the next 2-3 years. I've got better things to do than farm for titles, like actually PLAY a game for FUN!
Quaker
Personally, I hope it`s pay-for-play. It will help keep out the riffraff.
TwinRaven
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Paying a monthly fee is no guarantee of a good game, unfortunately...Aion might change my mind, but then if GW2 is true to the business model and comes out shortly after, I might not be paying for long...if GW2 proves to be worth the wait.
lyra_song
this has been in such long development. GIVE IT TO US ALREADY.
HawkofStorms
I'm not a fan of the Japanese Animie style that is apparent in Aion.
But if you are into that art style, yeah it looks like it could be fun.
But if you are into that art style, yeah it looks like it could be fun.
Winterclaw
Guys, there is one problem with a GW style payment system: they are limited in what they can go back and fix and when it can be fixed. Why else do you think it has taken them this long to make a single NPC run faster or make the wisdom/treasure hunter titles account based?
Alleji
No mesmer = QQ.
Although the graphics are nice. It's been over 3 years since GW came out and I've yet to see an MMO with all-around better graphics... (WAR did not deliver)
Although the graphics are nice. It's been over 3 years since GW came out and I've yet to see an MMO with all-around better graphics... (WAR did not deliver)
DarkNecrid
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Guys, there is one problem with a GW style payment system: they are limited in what they can go back and fix and when it can be fixed. Why else do you think it has taken them this long to make a single NPC run faster or make the wisdom/treasure hunter titles account based?
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You do realize that ArenaNet is financially backed by NCSoft and that their actual profit doesn't hinder them much at all, yes?
It's even mentioned on their website! While the profit is indeed important, it isn't something that affects how much they can fix, really.
drago34
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Yeah, I was like - woo-hoo!
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FoxBat
After having read even wikipedia, no the classes don't particularly line up with GW. The spiritmaster for example has much more in common with 'pet' classes like warlocks in typical MMOs. Combat in "neutral zones", controlling a city etc is also done in countless other games (and better than GW). The only thing GW's really done that the WoW clones have not caught on to, is equipping a limited number of skills.
Lonesamurai
Aion will have to be some thing VERY special to pull me away from EvE and War
but hell, its an NCSoft game, it will get added to my PlayNC account and I have every other anyway
but I believe we maybe getting some GW2info soon anyway, then subscriptions to other games are going to drop massively
but hell, its an NCSoft game, it will get added to my PlayNC account and I have every other anyway
but I believe we maybe getting some GW2info soon anyway, then subscriptions to other games are going to drop massively
Thizzle
I been looking for something similar to Guild Wars for so long.
I MP I
Shit Aion has been in development for ages and still no beta for Americans or Euros. Lucky Koreans. :\
Danax
I don't see a big deal in paying monthly for Aion. NCsoft will offer 60 day time cards, so I won't need a credit card.
- People pay $40 a month for a Cellphone bill. I don't have a cellphone, so I will have something cheaper.
- Aion has been in development for a very long time. It looks like they really put a lot of effort into this game, I'm willing to give it a go.
- Based on the age poll at the biggest aion fansite, most players will be atleast 18+
Sir Seifus Halbred
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Based on the age poll at the biggest aion fansite, most players will be atleast 18+
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Winterclaw
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Because ArenaNet is a small company that discusses about a lot of stuff and likes to think about the effects on the player base/game and has always been split in two with another project (a chapter/expansion/new game)?
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pamelf
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Fril Estelin
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So why did it take them 3 years to discuss that Leah Stone or whatever her name is should run faster?
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Back OT. Aion indeed does have an Asian style, but I don't feel it's as heavy as in Lineage. And indeed NCsoft being behind GW and Aion may explain the similarities, yet I can't help having the impression that there's something GW1 (or GW2)-related in Aion (this is NOT a rumour, this is only my opinion, take it with a big grain of salt).
And about TCOS, I didn't realise from the dozens of videos I saw that it was cartoony, it's nothing like WoW graphically. Too bad it's pay2play because it looks like a brilliant game (and I'll play it if they put me into the public beta).
zwei2stein
FYI: part TCOS is free (as beer) - couple of areas and lowbie most of stuff. So it has kinda "infinite trial".
MannfredSetha
therangereminem
aion is the one game i been waiting on uses cry engine for graphics the game is gorgous.
its been in beta testing for abotu 10 months now had 3 closed beta last one in july and now nov 11th open starts,
they also gave 1 week to make your toons befor eyou can play lol the toon creation is by far the best one, only bad thing you cant pick eye color, to try to get your eye color you want you do randoms til you find the right color then edit the rest.
going to be pay to play but its worth it not like wow, wow is junk
im to the point wher i wont play guildwars 2 just to give 1000% to aion. the ranger/assiasin classes are great turning yorself into rocks and birds and bushes, long with slowing time and shadowing yoruself
its been in beta testing for abotu 10 months now had 3 closed beta last one in july and now nov 11th open starts,
they also gave 1 week to make your toons befor eyou can play lol the toon creation is by far the best one, only bad thing you cant pick eye color, to try to get your eye color you want you do randoms til you find the right color then edit the rest.
going to be pay to play but its worth it not like wow, wow is junk
im to the point wher i wont play guildwars 2 just to give 1000% to aion. the ranger/assiasin classes are great turning yorself into rocks and birds and bushes, long with slowing time and shadowing yoruself
own age myname
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boarderx
yea Aion looks cool but since it is a pay to play game i can afford another monthly payment, a mortgage and everything else is enough atm, lol
cool lookin game though
cool lookin game though
Numa Pompilius
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Lol that does look A LOT like pre-searing xD
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http://eu.aiononline.com/en/screenshots/article/32/
I'd have said it was from GW.
...and here's the little farm north of Lions Arch...
http://eu.aiononline.com/en/screenshots/article/37/
Jiao Yang
I've been following Aion for quite a while.. and I think I'll be getting it.
I don't think pay to play is as bigger disadvangtage as some people make out - its £8 a month.. and on average someone of my age in a normal job can be earning £6 an hour. So you work 80 minutes for many hours of gameplay.
For an occasional player Aion isn't ideal.. for a regular player I think there'd have to be a bigger downside to turn down a game like this. I think it looks amazing.
I don't think pay to play is as bigger disadvangtage as some people make out - its £8 a month.. and on average someone of my age in a normal job can be earning £6 an hour. So you work 80 minutes for many hours of gameplay.
For an occasional player Aion isn't ideal.. for a regular player I think there'd have to be a bigger downside to turn down a game like this. I think it looks amazing.