Bergen Hot Springs what is going on there?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I am not a bot! But, I'm not playing my monk there either since I'm having fun chopping down zombies & what-not with my Dervish.

_Nihilist_

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

BHS for an easy undead HM farm and an easy HM Vanquish in the Cursed Lands. Lots of gold, golds, emblems, bones and dust.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

ok; deleted my post for the confusion it's generality caused. I naturally know not all monks are bots and some people seem to have taken exception to the fact that my statement seemed to suggesst they were. My apologies no offence meant.

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolen Souls View Post
Wrong. SOME of those monks are bots. xD

Most of em are most likely trying to get emblems to trade for Halloween goodies.
one more correction, MOST of them are Bots and SOME of them are players

you can tell easily by the random names and the path they run.
My roommate got banned for using the Macro application and running the farming program

there are a few locations that Bots like to hang out but the 2 that my old roommate did was Zen in factions and Bergen Hot springs.

I still have the Macro application and the farming programs in my email somewhere. Im saving it for when Anet decides to allow botting finally.

I would guess the people who get caught have the macro click speed turned waay too fast so it spams the server. The more discrete botters last longer.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow View Post
...So if you see a random ritu running around in a pack of monks, he's not a bot! D:
the Rit is the Bot leader!!!

Koudelka

Koudelka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

England

The Khaotic Empire (TKE)

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
The only bots you see now a days are little home grown shops run by people who want titles (HFFF bots for example).
And the best bit is, now you're pretty much allowed to bot... heard about arenanet's new "cute and cuddly" approach to bots?

On topic: Go go x2 holy damage on the undead .

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

@Steps Descending - the reason they are farming at Bergen is because you have all undead in a small area that is easy to finish quickly, so you can repeat it 10,000 times and amass stacks of emblems.

Most other undead areas take time to reach or are mixed monsters. Farmers like efficiency and dedicated skill bar.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

I'm not a bot my monk and my Sin farm from Bot Springs most of the time. One hunts the undead and the other the birds. It is a great place to farm for feathers, dust, and bones for consumables as well.

What is going on is the same thing going on at Rata Sum people are farming for golds and ToT bags. The only difference is at Bot Springs the farming can yield collector drops that can be traded in for Halloween goodies.

I spend alot of time at the Springs and I can tell you there just isn't that much traffic there except during special drops weekends or when folks are looking for collectable drops for special event traders.

BabyJ

BabyJ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Illinois

SFG

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf View Post
ok; deleted my post for the confusion it's generality caused. I naturally know not all monks are bots and some people seem to have taken exception to the fact that my statement seemed to suggesst they were. My apologies no offence meant.
A statement such "All those monks are bots - not players. Just to clarify." could cause some confusion and seems to suggest that the monks that are farming there are all bot's. One word change could have changed the generalized statement, such as, change the word "All" to "Most" or "Some"

I have beem farming there myself when I can find time away from homework (danm college!) Event times bring out more farmers than usual so the town is going to have a lot more monks, till the event is over. Although, I'll still farm, when I can, to stockpile for the christmas event.

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki View Post
Im not bot ....
You don't farm either you lazy **** =D

King Xiao

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

A/W

can a perma sin solo the run or do they get killed?

MpG

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

E/

"Know that every MMO company that has a large golf farming company presence in their games will use this to their advantage and form an unofficial partnership to boost income. This income may not be recorded properly, or at all in financial statements."

About 20 bots have been running there 24/7 for at least half a year now. It has been reported sevaral times. Come on, this obvious. The bots are used by some gold farming companies and because of the ties with Anet the accounts that are used arent getting banned.

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Captain Obvious found the crypt...

Cracko

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MpG View Post
"Know that every MMO company that has a large golf farming company presence in their games will use this to their advantage and form an unofficial partnership to boost income. This income may not be recorded properly, or at all in financial statements."

About 20 bots have been running there 24/7 for at least half a year now. It has been reported sevaral times. Come on, this obvious. The bots are used by some gold farming companies and because of the ties with Anet the accounts that are used arent getting banned.
nice kick brah.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Wow. If its so obvious that the players can spot, the IRS would have cleaned their clocks already.

-.o really.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo




Let the dead have peace my man

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer View Post



Let the dead have peace my man
this is quality

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

I just thought it was for the exact reason you were there, like myself i have many characters and not all of them were are far as ToA. usually when i need to go to ToA for a Zquest i would need to make sure my character was ascended but as this quest doesn't require it i just aswell get them the outpost


EDIT: Didn't notice the thread necormancey, thought i rermembered this thread

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow View Post
Gonna have to see if the 330 rit works there a bit later.


...So if you see a random ritu running around in a pack of monks, he's not a bot! D:
Simmer down, bot! We all see through your mystique!

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by MpG View Post
"Know that every MMO company that has a large golf farming company presence in their games will use this to their advantage and form an unofficial partnership to boost income. This income may not be recorded properly, or at all in financial statements."

About 20 bots have been running there 24/7 for at least half a year now. It has been reported sevaral times. Come on, this obvious. The bots are used by some gold farming companies and because of the ties with Anet the accounts that are used arent getting banned.
I love the outdated outrage.

Allamorph

Allamorph

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

The Basement

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

E/Me

First time I saw the Monk army I stared for a few minutes. Then I tossed on Yakety Sax and enjoyed myself.

Try it. It's hilarious.

Edit: Whoops, went back to Calibri there for a second. Darn reflex tag-typing. > >;;

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Where else are Monks going to farm now they can't do the UW as Sins are ruling it?Oh for crying outloud I fell for another Necroed thread.

Hungryarmadillo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Doing Buisness As [dOOb]

W/R

yeah, the bots are infact back in bergen in a big way. I have been noticing for about a month they are back. You dont tell by the lack of chat, lol you tell because many of them take the exact same path each time they zone. Best to stay away from farming there, Last time Bergen was bot banned a lot of real players got banned along with them.Collateral damage. Its been a good place to 55 for a long time, now because of tomes and gold drops. I have farmed it many times. Not with a bot, but traditionally. Worst Botting I can recall was at Droks for the mountain trolls. I stood and counted about 175 monks all following the same path, getting stuck in the same spot in about 7 mins. They weill get the ban hammer soon enough Im sure..

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

I ain't bot...

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

uber holiday farm!

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

Dude, Bergen Hot Springs is always full of people farming the stuff outside. Like for years now.

MpG

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sha Noran View Post
Dude, Bergen Hot Springs is always full of people farming the stuff outside. Like for years now.
Yes, but there is a fine line between bots and people farming.
Take Rata Sum for example: from time to time you can spot some bots there, but you can easily tell that 90% people out there are real players, whereas in Bergen its the opposite.

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

Sorry to bring up this old thread again, but I've noticed more bots in Bergen:
They ALL look like this:

[Do not post character names. - JR]

Grey dragon tattoo armor, same hair. All are Mo/Me. (faces and length may vary).


(* these two look like actual names, but definately look like bots. Same as the rest.)

So, if you like farming in BHS international 1, be sure you do NOT look like these bots, and you'll be fine. Dye your armor, have a guildtag/cape on, farm with the Mo/D 55hp build (much easier too) and most importantly: give your characters a real name lol.

I've reported them all, and I hope Anet will look into these accounts, because they sure look like bots to me. Been there for 3 days straight.

capashen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

The Kaos Order [TKO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
There haven't been any organized farming bots in Guild Wars for months. It is not nearly as bad as it once was. Even gold farmers realize the GW game economy is in the shitter too much for them to make a profit. People now are just farming (like they always do for events).

The only bots you see now a days are little home grown shops run by people who want titles (HFFF bots for example).
a man that has understand all XD

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Id say a majority of them are bots but also remember some can be human players as well - my monk does once in a while farm outside bergen tho i have dyed dragon armor.
Things to remember - some bots can have normal names as many times ive sat in bergen with other players and played spot the bot.Even sat in nf at one outpost and outpost actually watched the bots for a while then we made a blockade round storage and merchant and watched the bots go loopy lol.
Also some players tend to have local switched off ( im guilty of that at times after being in la and local chat was on a kiddish topic then going bergen ).

length of time a chr stays in a place also dont mean they are a bot - one stage i actually spent 3 days in rata sum.
Most bots have a set path - specially the idiot bots who run to the post/colum of right side of bergen exit ( quite a few used to get stuck lol ).
On a last note - its quite hard for anet to totaly wipe bots - you can keep banning names and ip`s but botter companies ( gold sellers etc ) make enough money to get either new accounts or trial accounts and different ip`s - remember theres posts about ppl at college or school getting past their port blocks etc and still playing gw.
It is something that anet does need to address - btw has anyone noticed that youtube and i cant think what site i was on but they are getting gold seller ads which appalled me.

Raven Wing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

N/

Im sure some get banned. But if an average bot account generates more income than the cost of purchasing/stealing it before it gets banned, then the gold companies will continue.
It will require manpower from anet to put a stop to this, which would be taken from gw1 or gw2.
What makes me more sad is that GWGuru is full of banner ads from these gold seller companies, one would have thought that Guru wouldnt support these companies by having ads for them

damkel

damkel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven Wing View Post
GWGuru is full of banner ads from these gold seller companies,
I mostly see ads for six pack abs or meeting sexy singles in my area. Neither of which interest me.

On topic: the effect of those bots on the economy isn't all that great. Is it? I think the Guilds who hoard Ectos and armbraces have more influence.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Raven Wing - guru have a slight problem which isnt their fault.
Its how the ads get onto guru - guru gains a small amount of income ( im assuming either money from ad companies or from webhosts that give a discount or something for having ads ) towards running the website ( yes guru probably costs a lot in bandwidth ).
Now i believe a while ago the staff asked if anyone sees ads regarding gold selling etc to contact them so they can get that ad banned.Also i recall a problem ages ago where some ads violated google and google had ads banned that in turn affected guru via web browser ( cant recall exact details ).
Anet i dont think will give a website like guru and official website title if it actually supported gold sellers - and guru im sure works with anet to block any ads.
If a guru staff member could verify if we can still notify you of any website ads that appear to do with bots or gold selling - that way we the public can help clear up as we may see the ads a long time before a staff member see`s them.
Also a big problem is - gold sellers can easily make another website be it free or paid for in a matter of hours and probably as fast as you block 1 another opens and takes over.