Some Trick-or-Treat bag drop numbers

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Seawolf
Seawolf
Ascalonian Squire
#1
I was farming Trick-or-Treat bags from the Vaettir using the Shadow Bomber build. As we know, the north group of Vaettir is made of 36 enemies and the south group is made of 24. Because of this disparity, I began to wonder if it was more efficient to kill the south group, or to rezone and farm the north group exclusively. Having nothing better to do, I recorded the drops of 50 runs in which I killed both groups. I decided to post the results here on the chance that someone might find them interesting. Also, I know 50 runs isn't going to give the most exact numbers, but it is good enough to notice general trends.

Number of bags dropped over 50 runs: 361
Bags dropped by the north group: 226
Bags dropped by the south group: 135

Average number of bags per run: 7.22
Average number of bags dropped by the north group: 4.52
Average number of bags dropped by the south group: 2.7

Percentage of my total that dropped from the north group: 62.6%
Percentage of my total that dropped from the south group: 37.4%

Experienced Drop rate: 12.03%

North group dropped better by: 91 bags, 67.41% better than the south group

So this shows that the extra 12 enemies in the north group make a measurable difference in the quantity of Trick-or-Treat bag drops. This leads me to suggest that farming the north group of Vaettir exclusively is more efficient for the time you spend farming.

Any thoughts, comments, or poorly spelled flames?

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A Simple Farmer
A Simple Farmer
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
Interesting idea, but I think you need to take into account how long it takes to complete a North only run Vs a full run. So you end up with a drops per hour & runs per hour.
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Krytan Explorer
#3
thx to a simple farmer for letting us all know about this run in the first place
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MiraBlackhand
Academy Page
#5
I actually noticed the exact same thing.

Farming solely the north group provides more ToT bags nearly every run, and it takes about a minute to a minute and a half less than farming the north and south groups. Farmed 23 stacks so far (yay for 1,150k in ~20 hours).
Seawolf
Seawolf
Ascalonian Squire
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by A Simple Farmer View Post
Interesting idea, but I think you need to take into account how long it takes to complete a North only run Vs a full run. So you end up with a drops per hour & runs per hour. I agree, of course.

Here's some of my times. I measured the time from portal to portal, including time picking up drops.

Full run: ~2 minutes 20 seconds
North group only: ~1 minute 20 seconds

This got me thinking of a way to make it faster. The answer is to bring Shadow of Haste and Dwarven Stability. At the beginning of a run, use Glyph of Swiftness, Deadly Paradox, Shadow Form, Dwarven Stability, and Shadow of Haste. Aggro the north group. Recast SF when you need to without GoS or DP. Making it recharge faster is irrelevant now. Blow stuff up, get your drops, and use DP or Dark Escape to shadow step back to the portal.

My times with this method are usually around 1 minute 5 seconds.

Edit: Didn't see your second post there. Looks like we've got the same conclusion.
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Snorph
Krytan Explorer
#8
Where excatly is this again, in eotn? What area? north from there?
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MacReborn1
Academy Page
#9
I use perma SF mesmer with CoP, Ether N and radiation field. I found place where they not scatter and i have max kurzick, sunspear and asura titles, so it quit fast.
And i noticed too: more drops from north group.
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FrEaK40
Academy Page
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron View Post
What skill(s) are you using for damages? Dagger? I did try using sliver armor, but in HM, that was still too slow.

Anyone have a faster build to take them down faster?

Thanks!
use bombs -_-

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=shadow+bomber
Nightow
Nightow
Forge Runner
#13
Can this be done without pve skills?
Nightow
Nightow
Forge Runner
#16
Ok, awesome. Thanks byteme! and eljer.
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TurinPT
Krytan Explorer
#17
wait what there is a south group? where?
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CyclonicYoh
Academy Page
#20
60 always spawn, the the 24 near the bottom tend to group near the corner