Make GToB trade-town, instead of Kamadan.

I would like to make a petition to make Great Temple of Balthazar the new trade-town instead of Kamadan. It'll take alot of effort, because everyone is trading in Kamadan now, but GToB is so much easier.

Here are some advantages:

1. You can have a party of 8 people, so no need to kick heroes out.
2. If you have some mules, you can easily trade with your mules in GToB.
3. Everyone can reach GToB, now only people with NF added to their account can join in the big trade-town.
4. GToB is much smaller than Kamadan, so easier to find your buyer/seller.
5. Easier travel into Elona (no more lag because of needing to pass Kamadan).

Though there is 1 disadvantage:

1. There are no NPC-traders in GToB (Crafting Material Trader, Merchant,....), you can easily fix this by going to your Guild Hall (if it's full).

I know everyone will have to make some effort to do this, but it's possible...It would make trading much easier imo.

won't happen as that will take the entire community to participate, and they just look for the most crowded port-city, where many people are that WTB or WTS PvE stuff. GToB is mainly a PvP outpost, so the only trading that's going on there is stuff from the Z-chest and Z-keys.

I agree on your first and third point though.
point 2 can be done everywhere, I prefer my GH.
point 4 would make it too crowded. There's a search funtion you know.
and the disadvantage is big enough not to opt for GToB.

What Sjeng said. While I like trading in GToB, you'll never get Kamadan replaced because it's the most crowded PvE city that's accessible at all times through the ship travel. If they make a fourth game for some reason, that one will probably become the trade city.

Besides, there's things that people like to sell that GToB people generally have no need for, like consets. There's a reason everybody's in PvE towns to trade.

Sjeng, I know the whole community will have to participate, but alot of people who play GW, also visit Guru regulary (mostly the experienced and active players) so if some of the guru-members go and trade in GToB, more and more will join. It'll take some time, but people also left Kaineng Center to trade in Kamadan when NF came out... And with point 4 I mean that if you want to trade, you mostly invite your seller/buyer into your party, so you can just click on him to trade, but because Kamadan is so big, that's not always possible. It will be super-crowded in GToB then, but that's no problem I think, if you just invite the seller/buyer and then click his name you find him in no time.

zelgadissan, what does it matter if it's a PvE-town, or PvP-town?

The guru community is only a small percentage. People will not follow the example of a handfull of guru people who might agree with the idea. Take into account most guru people won't agree.

That's because NF was the new place to be for PvE.

As I said: use the search funtion.

True, but I'd like to SEE the person I'm trading with, same goes foe NPC's (which aren't in GToB in the first place...)

Because people trade PvE stuff.

This alone will stop many people from wanting to go to GToB.

The last thing I want is to roll a PvP character and have a shit ton of lag befalling my entrance to the area.

I don't think it is a bad idea at all, but it will never happen, as people have mentioned before. Personally, I think we should old school and make the Deldrimor Warcamp the new trade town! (or Ascalon City)

My 2 cents:

Kamadan is probably the most active trade spot these days, but L.A. is still quite active.

I agree with the OP that GToB would be the best place to trade. Oddly enough, if you sell stuff through Guru auctions, it's the place that most people meet to complete the deal, simply because everyone can access it (although not everyone knows they can).
To take the OP's points one at a time:

1 - The 8-people thing is really minor, but it would make life a little easier.

2 - Also relatively minor - you can trade with your own mules practically anywhere - GH being best choice really.

3 - This is the kicker. Some in this thread have suggested that GToB is a "PvP town", but that's a bit inaccurate. You don't need to be a PvP character to get there and no PvP stuff is actually done there. Plus, it's the way to access the Isle of the Nameless to try out things for PvP and PvE. And, you could trade stuff besides just Z-keys.
The main point though, is that it is accessible to ALL players regardless of what campaigns they have.
Edit - the most logical thing would be to use the International districts.

4 - also a minor, but helpful, point.

Edit#2 - about the one disadvantage. There are no material traders there, but the only thing you need those for are to check current prices. You can check prices in some other town or your GH (if equipped) before you go. Not a big disadvantage - not much worse than running all over Kamadan to get from storeage to NPCs.
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I don't think you'd need to be concerned about GToB becoming too crowded because, like any outpost, extra districts are added as needed. There are only X number of players in any one district. If GToB did become the trade town, just like in Kamadan, district 1 would be the main trading district - those who want to do other things (like complete Guru Auction deals) would simply go to higher numbered districts.

However, I doubt that it's ever going to happen. For one thing, it's a sort of chicken&egg thing where you need to have sellers in GToB before buyers will go there, but you need buyers there before sellers will go. Perhaps though, I will spend some time there in future.

im all for GToB to be the town, kamadan is just soooo ugly n dirty...i dont like nf at all, well besides vabbi. plus the best way to try a new wep out is to go hit barrels.

wts kamadan
wtb GToB
gogogo

new trade outposts = less lag for newcomers in NF & no spam -> less complaining
How I wish it were that simple.

It'd be full of PvP characters who don't trade. You'd get a mix of people talking PvP stuff and people trading.
The NPCs in Kamadan are useful.

Your idea is terrible.

100% true. Merchant and rare mat trader comes useful in Kama.

that

and this is a pretty unrealistic expectation.

Another advantage is that you could travel MUCH easier into Elona, because now you have tons of lag each time you need to pass Kamadan..

And you can easily fix the disadvantage of having no NPC-traders in GToB by going to your GH. (I guess everyone has a full GH these days..)

How do you plan to make a petition?

Anet didnt suddenly decide it was to be kamadan, the players did and as your only going to reach about 20% of players on forums you have no chance.

I know I have no chance Lykan, but over a longer period of time it could be possible...You never know, I'd like it.

you dont have to change anything for that.. just get everyone to realise gtob is easier trade in lol. people pick kamadan cos its the easiest place.

Temple is the perfect Z-Key tradeplace anyway. So quick to find sellers and buyers. It would be a nightmare trying to sort through the general pve junk ads to find them.