Question of Breach of Conduct

Question and hopefully an Arena-Net staff member will answer.

would it be "Breach of Conduct" if u Used a botting program to spam frenzy while death leveling a Defender of Ascalon character?

because im not farming gold, im not selling in game gold or in game items for real cash, im just Farming death counts and EXP to level a perma pre character by the so called death leveling, without having to go AFK for 6 hours or sit infront of the computer for my better part of the day and spam frenzy myself.

i dont mind going AFK, i just wanted to know if this would be considered "Breach of Conduct"

I think the only ones who can answer that one for sure would be NCSoft support.

Anet wouldn't care, even if they could detect it. When they ban people for botting its because they are farming money/items. Technically it does break the rules of conduct, but those are more guidelines then rules since they can really just ban you whenever they feel like it. Just don't automate any more then pressing a number key once every few seconds and you will be fine.

So is it also ok to use a macro to click on a bottle of alcohol every minute?

Sorry to say but if you have something performing tasks (ie pressing the frenzy skill) for you while you are not at the keyboard then anet will consider it a Bot(in the exact sense of the word).

How serious they will consider it (after teh perma ban to 2 week ban fiasco the other week) is another question but I am sure frenzy being pressed ever x.xxx seconds for an extended period will ring bells on their "botometer" software ^.^.

People frequently use keystroke/ keyboard macros and bots to max the Drunkard title and I haven't seen or heard of anybody being banned for it. However, I'd sent a ticket to support and ask the question just to be on the safe side.

ok new question, how do i contact A-Net support(only new of guru to ask questions, lol)

You can click the support tab from www.guildwars.com

thank you Pamelf

You can't get a helpful response from anet on the subject. The reason is that if they 'okayed' this form of macroing, then there would be 1000 questions on whether you could do x other macro, and so on and so forth. The best you can get is that a loooong time ago gaile said that botting was against the codes of conduct, but they weren't going to go after those who weren't negatively affecting the game (she was speaking about automating the drunkard title if i recall correctly). Anet recently unbanned the people who had been caught botting the HFF, and that's a bot that gives you like 10k an hour and people were leaving on all day. As far as negatively affecting the game you are doing far less then they were.

And I still say you couldn't be detected at all. From a programming standpoint keeping a list of EVERY action of EVERY player and constantly checking it to see if a set of actions is being done repeatedly would put a huge load on the servers. The main way Anet would find bots is to look for people entering and exiting an area constantly over a period of days, as well as checking botters that were reported ingame.

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from: http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...sofconduct.php

ah, ok, i think i understand, well i understand the basics of what you are saying, now its about getting the bot program...eBay i guess

oh and thanx for the help every1

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^^read some of those rules, there retarded



You may not offer in-game services for real-world cash. <<<how in gods name, does that effect any1, besides the person willing to pay for a run with real cash????

by making this breach it discourages some botting and gold farming factory (they are really similar to sweatshops) also it allows the game to be about the game and not how much money i got in my pocket to blow on in game gold and such

That also is intended to prevent people buying services of other players to farm a title for you. Otherwise pay $50, have a pro PvPer get you rank x of pvp title you did nothing for. Such a service is already very popular in exchange for ingame money.

But yeah, some stuff is stupid. Telling someone your name being against the rules? I will eat my foot if someone actually gets banned for that.

The bottom line is really they can lawfully ban you no matter what you are doing. You play through their servers, they can refuse to let you connect at a whim.

Boting in any way, is NOT aloud. Use it at risks.

Can't you just assign a certain key (near the edge of your keyboard) to your Frenzy skill, press it in, put a piece of folded paper or whatever to keep it stuck and go afk?
Might ruin your battery if you have a cordless board, otherwise there really is no reason why they could ban you for that, it just happens to be a stuck key.

this is pretty much what they do. they ban who they feel like when they feel like

my laptop's got weird keys, i tried jamming them, but it doesnt work on these keys..


Edit-Just quickly tried holding my finger down, but the skill wont re-activate, so there goes that idea anyway.

drinking bird.

Not that I use any bots nor am I condoning using artifical means to play the game, but a very simple auto clicking program that just double or single clicks an area of the screen would work quite well, no need for a 'bot' per se.

Like say for example, a program called ClickWhen. I'm given to understand it will click anywhere you select after a given time interval. Like for example drinking alcohol in game every minute or clicking Frenzy every 4 seconds whilst deathleveling.

LOL That is the first thing that came to my mind.... other then that I dunno a way to continuously press a button without being at the keyboard....

Well actually my cats do it all the time when I go afk :P

ETA:

Pretty much I guess it boils down to what are you willing to risk with regard to the botting. You know the rules and Anet may or may not act on those rules if you do use a click program. Potentially are you willing to accept that your account could get banned?

This is the heart of the question, and the only part that needs to be considered.
Short answer : Yes it would breach the code of conduct and you "should" recieve a ban for it.
Are you telling me that if you go afk, you will not die without autospamming frenzy?
give me a break, i cannot believe anyone would think it is ok to use any kind of bot or anything even remotely botlike in this game...
BAN EM ALL

id suggest that or something similar to it best and safest bet

(side note: continues repetitive action mat mark u as a bot and could get you banned)

Why would you pay for a bot app? :S
I'd trust people charging for them even less than those who are providing them for free. If you must use automation software, find it through google.

What the drinking bird would be doing is _identical_ to what a bot is doing, just a level higher. To the game and guildwar's/anet's perspective, it's almost certainly indistinguishable. The only difference is bots will look less repetitive.

Botting in any shape or form is against the rules. By using Frezy via 'bot' your automating the Death leveling and making it faster then normal AFK or human input, so it would be an indirect form of cheating.

Don't do it.

I am not going to say I am 100% certain here but

I recon no one gets banned for just playing the game as it was intended.

So that pretty much says thet thoise who were banned ended up that way by there own actions.
I'm not gloating over the fact or enjoying their problems but it was pretty much down to them.

That goes for the strange character names designed as some kind of in joke.
The use of key macros to get an edge over the game or other players.

Using exploits in the game is a grey area for me if you find one good for you but if you make a career out of that exploit you will probably be called to task eventually.

Spamming scamming swearing being in general an ass all adds up to the fact you had fun at someone else's expense either directly or indirectly.

For any abuse of the game system usually ends up with a rules change that affects all of us for which you were the root cause.

So while I do not gloat over your misfortunes it was deserved and I hope you learn something from it and don't inflict your complaints on the forum over rules bad good or retarded.

Questions to Arenanet should go to their support staff. Closed.