Integrate the Continents!

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Floski
Krytan Explorer
#1
Is there any reason not to integrate Tyria, Cantha, and Elona all into one continent like they did with EotN in Tyria for those who bought GW:EN?

Something like this
Map
or this
Map
My personal favorite
Map

It would not only be more convenient for people like me who have all 4 games, which I suspect most other people do as well, but it would really drive home the point that this is all one connected world, not three separate ones.
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JASON626
Krytan Explorer
#2
i saw those maps too when i was doing cartography titles.

Its cool but not sure if its practical.
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Floski
Krytan Explorer
#3
Whats impractical about it?
Mitchel
Mitchel
Krytan Explorer
#4
This gets a big /signed from me, using the boat and loading into spam city's is really starting to piss me off :O
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Amantis
Academy Page
#5
/signed from me too, it would also solve where Cantha and battle islands are exactly located in relation to Tyria/Elona once and for all
GWEXTREEMFAN
GWEXTREEMFAN
Jungle Guide
#6
/signed
hoped it would be like this from the scratch on -.-
Shayne Hawke
Shayne Hawke
Departed from Tyria
#7
I think that improved mapping systems like people have previously suggested would be better because they may require less work and be less cluttered.
Operative 14
Operative 14
Forge Runner
#8
/Sign on the idea

Though I can see why they wouldn't want to do it. From a lore standpoint it would lock them into defining the known world and the placement of the continents, and they probably want to leave that open for some speculation in case they need to add or adjust something down the road.
wetsparks
wetsparks
Desert Nomad
#9
Certainly would be nice.
Kwith
Kwith
Academy Page
#10
Even if they don't have all 4 games, just make one large map that everyone can see when they zoom out.

Maybe have a couple different levels of zooming:

Local
Continent
World

that way you aren't zooming out all the way all the time which some people might find annoying.
wind fire and ice
wind fire and ice
Jungle Guide
#11
/signed,would be very nice.
Konig Des Todes
Konig Des Todes
Ooo, pretty flower
#12
I actually suggested this on a thread that wanted to remove the need of going to LA/Kaineng/Kamadan, the thread isn't that old.

Here it is:
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10328494

My suggestion is 2nd post. And the thread is still on the first page.

I /sign for this idea, as I brought it up, and I /sign for a merge of the two threads.

Also, Kwith has a good idea for zooming, except for one thing. How do you tell what way to go, it's left click, left click currently for zooming in and out. So will it just circle through? Since right clicking allows you to drag the map.

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
I think that improved mapping systems like people have previously suggested would be better because they may require less work and be less cluttered.
You mean like this:
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
There is no need to make more maps.

Just change the behavior of the existing icons.

Click the boat, click Tyria, Tyrian map show.
Click the boat, click Cantha, Canthan map shown.
Click the boat, click Elona, Elonian map show.
Click the boat, click Battle Isles, Battle Isles map shown.
Click the Vortex from Elona, Torment map show.
Click the Vortex from Torment, Elonian map show.
Click the Asura Gate, Tyrian map shown focused in the North.

That's all that is needed.
That sounds like a LOT more work then just taking the current maps, combining them out of GW, filling in the blanks, then replacing the 4 maps with the new big one. Because with that idea (the only real suggestion about map traveling cross-continent other then map combining) would be changing the coding to include every single outpost. A LOT more work.
Siirius Black
Siirius Black
Krytan Explorer
#13
I guess it will require a lot of coding to join the continents.
GW2 suggests that they will be availabe in a similar manner.

If anet can do it, I'll like to have something like the third map.
The change will improve a lot of things.

/signed
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#14
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
That sounds like a LOT more work then just taking the current maps, combining them out of GW, filling in the blanks, then replacing the 4 maps with the new big one. Because with that idea (the only real suggestion about map traveling cross-continent other then map combining) would be changing the coding to include every single outpost. A LOT more work.
Of course, since the time that showing something that already exists is less work than making something new...
Oh, wait... that would be never.

Another thing to take into account is the memory required to have the whole map shown.
If it's split into pieces, it's less to show anytime you hit M.
Absinth187
Absinth187
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
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Originally Posted by Floski View Post
Whats impractical about it?
Impractical as far as coding -> money, when GW2 is what Anet is focusing on.

Sure it would be easier for us, the player base, but it's probably setup just like the rest of the instanced areas in the GW world.
MStarfire
MStarfire
Krytan Explorer
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
Of course, since the time that showing something that already exists is less work than making something new...
Oh, wait... that would be never.

Another thing to take into account is the memory required to have the whole map shown.
If it's split into pieces, it's less to show anytime you hit M.
It's easy enough, I think:

Hit M, and it shows the zoom in of where you currently are and the commands are much like they are now, click to zoom in/out etc. Now add the boat as a static icon in the lower left. When clicked, you're presented with the World Map. This World Map shows the expanded view of all 4 continents and the battle isles. Click anywhere on a continent and it loads that map as if you were there and had just pressed M. Clicking the mouse zooms in and out as usual and you're free to move around that map and click on the outpost you want to travel to.

This way we only add two more clicks, one on the boat icon and one on the destination continent. Compare this with the painful tedious task that is the current system.

I am made of win.
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Floski
Krytan Explorer
#17
I think the fear of computer's being unable to deal with this change are unfounded. The battle isles used to be integrated into map before anyway, EotN is already integrated, Elona is already depicted on the map for Tyria, all that would have to be added is Cantha.

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Impractical as far as coding -> money, when GW2 is what Anet is focusing on.
This is just not a reason. Perhaps if we were asking for something huge, but we already have the maps for all the continents. No one's asking them to start from scratch, they have all the things they need already. Elona's location on the map has already been decided, all they really need to do is find a place for Cantha.

If you're that worried still about the cost, maybe they should just pull all the people associated with balancing and events for GW1 and put them on GW2. It's impractical to keep improving a dead game right? Equally bad logic.
Konig Des Todes
Konig Des Todes
Ooo, pretty flower
#18
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Originally Posted by Absinth187 View Post
Impractical as far as coding -> money, when GW2 is what Anet is focusing on.

Sure it would be easier for us, the player base, but it's probably setup just like the rest of the instanced areas in the GW world.
You see, by helping the players by doing the small (yet good) things, such as the map change, and by doing the big (and good) things, such as the HoM/Title changes, ANet garners more support and like from the GW community.

And by doing such, they raise chances of people buying GW2, which in turn will raise their income.
nvmu
nvmu
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
ok this is not a bad idea, however i'd much rather see the time taken to fix factions and prophs weapons so they are all inscribable and what not like nf and eotns, however personally i wouldn't mind if all weapons went back to the way they are in proph, but then again none of this will happen, perhaps in gw2 the maps will all be on 1, who knows
/notsigned

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
And by doing such, they raise chances of people buying GW2, which in turn will raise their income.
um?? do you really think that by changing the map system in gw that it is going to make a difference at all in the amount of people that will buy gw2, maybe the few ocd people out there who can't stand it, but hey maybe there are people out there that would hate all the maps being put together and not buy gw2 because of it
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Floski
Krytan Explorer
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by nvmu View Post
ok this is not a bad idea, however i'd much rather see the time taken to fix factions and prophs weapons so they are all inscribable and what not like nf and eotns, however personally i wouldn't mind if all weapons went back to the way they are in proph, but then again none of this will happen, perhaps in gw2 the maps will all be on 1, who knows
/notsigned



um?? do you really think that by changing the map system in gw that it is going to make a difference at all in the amount of people that will buy gw2, maybe the few ocd people out there who can't stand it, but hey maybe there are people out there that would hate all the maps being put together and not buy gw2 because of it
Can you take me through the labyrinth that is your logic for /notsigning? You're saying there are other things to fix before this? This thread isn't about putting thing son a list of priorities, simply changes that would be good or not, in fact that is the point of this subforum. It is the argue the merits of certain ideas, not to dictate to Anet in which order the changes should occur. Your reasoning is fault.

And who would be angry that the maps are put together? Give me one reason.