The Radar and Kids

Coverticus

Coverticus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Zodiac Elites [TZE]

Mo/

Ok, this suggestion is based around trying to improve a problem myself, my girlfriend (and many others I know) have experienced issues with - radar abuse.

Typical example, I like to perma sin in FoW to unwind and have fun, with my good girl in the team too. There is nothing worse than trying to group the foes up and some idiot (or idiots) decide that either scrawling crude images/text on the radar (or just going Kindergarten with scribbles) makes aggroing and dealing with things that much harder. And invariably leads to party issues (as we experienced way too much for our liking).

So a simple, yet effective, method is to grant each party member's slot a colour. 1 through to 8, each of these is designated a simple colour. I would even say that the ability to ping on the radar is given this colour too. This way, all the party know who is doing what and the last part of the interface stops being anonomous. Ok, granted, there is not much people can do about whoever is abusing it but at least the person is identified and, maybe, a reporting option could be delivered/used for this type of abuse. The party bar could also be customised to display this colour (or leave red, dependant on the user's perference).

I know its not much, but at least it would identify people doing this and direct the party's frustration on the individual(s).

* If this has been suggested before, please delete or merge with the appropriate thread, couldn't find anything much though *

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

Would be nice,but a bit confusing.

/signed either way though,no more 12 year olds drawing on my map!

Shursh

Shursh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

KaVa

N/

/signed if you can also toggle on or off a specific party member's scribbles (this would of course be only invisible to you).

RedStar

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

_____________________ (\__/) (\__/) (\__/)Help (='.'=)(='.'=)(='.'=)Bunny (")_(")(")_(")(")_(")

[Bomb]

E/

/signed

It gets really annoying...

Daisuko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

California

[Vr]

E/Me

Could just not do PuG's, I'm sure you can find 8 people you'd actually like to play with and would do it with you repeatedly.

GWEXTREEMFAN

GWEXTREEMFAN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

in my house

N/A

W/E

/signed

i mean the odd one ok.... but then really only if we are chillin ^^

MStarfire

MStarfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

[SOS]

Rt/

I think only the party leader should be able to draw on the compass.

Sharkman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shursh View Post
/signed if you can also toggle on or off a specific party member's scribbles (this would of course be only invisible to you).
Only way that would make sense. Otherwise what are you going to do, yell at the kid making the drawings? That would be like trying to put out a fire with gasoline.

And /report'ing it just seems silly.

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

Quote:
I think only the party leader should be able to draw on the compass
what if he/she doesnt know what they're doing?

ive been in many parties where the compass is used constructively, offing suggesting, pointing out routes, showing mob patrols and so on....

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Been suggested since the game was released, methinks.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

In 3 years time all the penises I saw on radar have reached pluto by now. This is a good idea.

/signed

/signed for The on/off toggle.

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkGanni View Post
In 3 years time all the penises I saw on radar have reached pluto by now. This is a good idea.

/signed

/signed for The on/off toggle.
hahaha, agree with the concept and idea of toggling lines so /signed

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

I would say the party leader can draw and ping on the radar and can turn on or off the ability for the party to do it.

Colours might also work but could be more complicated to program.
Would go for that if they ever allow AI replacements for missing party members.

Then you could id them and dump them.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Color would be an issue. I wouldn't mind having different colors for each member of the team, as it would allow for some nice communication. However, when the radar already shows a red dot for enemies, green dots for NPCs, etc. and you have a player with a similar red/green color - how do you know what is what? The radar uses a full spectrum of colors for the actual map, so what happens when you are in an area with a ground texture very close to your own marking color?

Easier to team up with people who know how to play with other people than to send the DEVs on a hunt to find a way to make this work.

/unsigned

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

I'd just like to see a client side toggle for;
no ping sound
no ping
no scribble

nkuvu

nkuvu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'd love to have separate colors for radar drawings.

Even without the concept of obscene drawing, several times I've wanted to ask "did you want to go this other way instead?" So I draw a line pointing out the alternate path... and while I'm typing up the question, people start heading off in that direction, thinking that the party leader was the one to draw the path. It would be nice if we could say "ignore the blue lines, those are from nkuvu who hasn't done the mission/quest before. Watch the red lines, those are from Fearless Party Leader."

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

The root of the problem is not ability to draw on the compass, the root of the problem is that you are grouping with morons.

Even if this gets fixed, you are still grouping with morons and they will still find a way to annoy you.

Absinth187

Absinth187

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

32??45′26.49″N, 97??19′59.45″W

Some Like It Hot [sake]

At least the pug morons would have to think up new and clever ways to annoy. One less thing they can do sounds great to me.

/signed + toggle

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

Yes!
It will finally end the - who farted? - question
Or in this case - who drew a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO?

Stc95

Stc95

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

Spirit of Elisha [SOE]

Mo/

What about something like this? Just expand that part a little and make it so the numbers show up depending on who is pinging/drawing. Would require a bit o work, but it should have been done a while ago.

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

or make it text event, with a toggle
"Player X is scribbling on the radar"

Would probably be easier to implement.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

/signed

Anything that would help fix that would be great. It can really get annoying.

Moonlit Azure

Moonlit Azure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN View Post
I'd just like to see a client side toggle for;
no ping sound
no ping
no scribble

Yes, most I ever draw is a line to point my underlings in the right direction.

Stc95

Stc95

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

Spirit of Elisha [SOE]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roupe View Post
or make it text event, with a toggle
"Player X is scribbling on the radar"

Would probably be easier to implement.

no. think of all the small lines that people can, and will make. This would just double the spam. Not only will people be making 15 lines on the Radar, it would also spam team chat. It should be something small and by the radar where people can specifically look to see who is writing on the board.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

/signed

with an option to /report the kids please.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stc95 View Post
What about something like this? Just expand that part a little and make it so the numbers show up depending on who is pinging/drawing. Would require a bit o work, but it should have been done a while ago.


Idea is nice but I already have everything cluttered on the screen. So expanding this will not work for me.

I am in favor of the OP idea. Those people drawing genitals on map the same time I am trying to draw which way we should go are already driving me nuts since years.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

very good idea i r like it, but what happens when you are in Alliance Battle? because in alliance battle you never know who's calling what, so do we get 12 different colors? 3 different colors?

none the less /signed.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shursh View Post
/signed if you can also toggle on or off a specific party member's scribbles (this would of course be only invisible to you).
/signed for this as long as it's not a reportable offense. This solution gives the choice of what you do or do not want to see, but also stops people idiotically reporting for relatively harmless things.

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

/signed its a great idea and i am all for toggles for radar players it would not be unheard of for the leader of the party to be the only one allowed to draw but i can see reasons why this might be a issue.

All in all im pissed with random 12 year olds drawing on the radar.

asb

asb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Europe

Me/

Could also be realized by having a small brush pop up in or next to the drawers party window health bar.

/signed for both

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

/signed

I dont see it happening since I stopped pugging 2 years ago but ya I understand the problem is still there.

jaximus

jaximus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

wisc

anyone besides me notice its usually the assassin in the group if there is one? seems like everytime we have an issue, its the sin. ive been around the game for quite a while and i feel its my duty to help out newer players so i spend a fair share of time with pugs. therefore i tend to use the map to draw positions/movement patterns and such. everyone enjoys a little bit of john madden telestrater art right?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

It would be better to be able to see who is the one writting and pinging.
Names should blink when they ping or doodle in the radar.
Three blinks, one for each 'radar wave' when pinging.
Continuous faster blinks when the character is drawing.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

or just the option to toggle it all on or off, but i dont pug no more

Candra

Candra

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Runners of the Rose

R/

/signed

You would instantly know who's annoying the entire party. Great idea !

furanshisuko

furanshisuko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

R/

i like to draw :P

tic,tac,toe is ftw !

lolz


anywayz why just not make a texmod skin and have a picture of something in place of the radar

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Lol

/signed

Has anyone been able to draw the diagram that they have on the original GW box? Don't think it's possible because it faints away before you can finish it. And it looks so perfect on the box to lol.