November Xunlai Tournament Points Distribution - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

06 Nov 2008 at 13:13 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Yes, 6 months. So the title rebalance better be something else than just a few bigger numbers for kill or when turning in the points.

Don't get your hopes up.....any change to the Kurz/Luxon title would be appreciated, but I'm already content with the Treasure Hunter and Wisdom becoming account-wide.

Quote:

Originally Posted by impression

Hi,
I don't know if this has been answered before but, will the title update include the account based Hall of Monuments?

Thanks.

Lol, yeah. HoM WAS getting account based wasn't it? Already forgotten about it to be honest. Happens when updates keep getting pushed back.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

06 Nov 2008 at 13:34 - 42

I like to go along with not expecting anything, so when the update comes with whatever it contains, it will be a nice surprise

ele pl

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

E/

06 Nov 2008 at 14:33 - 43

Idea: Today's build=Skills+kurzick/luxon title update ONLY
rest of the tiltes: next week

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

06 Nov 2008 at 14:39 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
From my point of view skill update is useless and title rebalance is important.

Sorry man, but this game is called GUILD Wars, not "PvE Title Hunting Funtime Bonanza Game"

PvP skill updates have always been, and will always be, the priority.

Even though I stopped GvGing hard and heavy about 3 months ago I understand this fact. Sure I'm interested in the changes to the titles but it is what it is and I, as well as a few other people, understand that.

SpiritThief

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

R/Me

06 Nov 2008 at 14:41 - 45

I just hope they change skills that are needed, and not take perfectly fine NOT overpowered skills and change them to nothing more then a blank slot.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

06 Nov 2008 at 14:52 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Sorry man, but this game is called GUILD Wars, not "PvE Title Hunting Funtime Bonanza Game"

PvP skill updates have always been, and will always be, the priority.

Where have you been since nightfall?

Anyway, balance updates are more timely because there's only another two weeks till a MAT, people need time to play with the new meta. Titles will probably effect more people but don't have the same time constraint.

Railin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

06 Nov 2008 at 14:53 - 47

Why are people so excited about titles? They're the most boring part of the game.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

06 Nov 2008 at 15:07 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railin

Why are people so excited about titles? They're the most boring part of the game.

Of late, they are the only part of the game for some people.

Darn, I'm becoming jaded with this game.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

06 Nov 2008 at 15:41 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railin

Why are people so excited about titles? They're the most boring part of the game.

We are excited about possibility that they might become actually exciting and fun things to do.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

06 Nov 2008 at 16:58 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

We are excited about possibility that they might become actually exciting and fun things to do.

Thank you. Exactly.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

06 Nov 2008 at 19:39 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

agreed. also regardless of what happens to anet staff. it should take them an entire week to release a update that was going to happen tomarrow.

Let's imagine you're REALLY ill - let's say it's a bad bout of the Flu, or Pneumonia. Or perhaps your mother has died.

Then let's pretend your work rings you up and say "Suck it up, your customers need you more than your health/family need you."

Yeah. Classy.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

06 Nov 2008 at 20:49 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

Let's imagine you're REALLY ill - let's say it's a bad bout of the Flu, or Pneumonia. Or perhaps your mother has died.

Then let's pretend your work rings you up and say "Suck it up, your customers need you more than your health/family need you."

Yeah. Classy.

Let's imagine you work in a company with 135 employees and you are the ONLY one who can do something. Why are you the ONLY one?

Frozy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

06 Nov 2008 at 20:57 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Let's imagine you work in a company with 135 employees and you are the ONLY one who can do something. Why are you the ONLY one?

Because 130 moved on to work on GW2.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

06 Nov 2008 at 20:58 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railin

Why are people so excited about titles? They're the most boring part of the game.

I'm inclined to believe that after you spend more than 2 months with this game, that titles and farming for armor or other vanity items are all there is left to do PvE wise.

Oh and are the skill balances coming today or tomorrow, tomorrow I'd guess since it's past the usually time they'd come out?

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

06 Nov 2008 at 21:03 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozy

Because 130 moved on to work on GW2.

Natch. Exactly.

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

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06 Nov 2008 at 21:10 - 56

Wow.... this is pretty disappointing after such a LONG wait for the titles changes. Kinda lame to re-run halloween also.

I am a big fan of Guild Wars. And the same old repeating weekends are not so special anymore. Is it that you can't think of anything new to do? Or you can't devote the man power to implementing it?

And no more in game chats at all? Wow... another let down.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

06 Nov 2008 at 21:13 - 57

better than nothing... some people aye? Some of you have to remember that they odn't need to give us anything extra
Frozy btw your avvy is awesome.

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

E/

06 Nov 2008 at 21:21 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmithyBen

better than nothing...

Yes! I agree the updates are better than no updates. But is that how Anet wants us to look at their updates? "Well...it is better than nothing"

PyrAnkh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Lowbird Academy [LoW]

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06 Nov 2008 at 21:49 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

Fail, its what I've come to expect from anet anyway though.

bashing anet is easy. After so long without it being announced, now that it's announced people cannot wait another week.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

06 Nov 2008 at 22:32 - 60

Title re-balance delayed a week? Why am I not surprised.

At least we get the skill balance today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linsey_Murdock

::::::We decided a while ago that the title update would need at least an extra week. So it's not actually been "delayed", we planned to put it out next week all along. It needs this because it is a ''hugely'' '''massive''' update and we really need the time in order to finish implementing everything. You don't even want to know how long it's going to take for me to write the update notes.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?...&oldid=1189178

I like how one ANet member says that the absence of a staff member caused the delay, and another says it was planned. Who to believe, who to believe...

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

06 Nov 2008 at 23:02 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmithyBen

better than nothing... some people aye? Some of you have to remember that they odn't need to give us anything extra.

And WE don't need to buy their next game.

They give us stuff to keep us around as an installed base of hopefully purchasing customers of GW2. They DON'T give us stuff because they are cool and like us. Some people aye?

Bekkr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[]

N/

06 Nov 2008 at 23:15 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I like how one ANet member says that the absence of a staff member caused the delay, and another says it was planned. Who to believe, who to believe...

It certainly gives some insight into what Anet might be telling (or NOT telling) their CR managers. I remember similar snafus with Gaile giving out incorrect and/or incomplete info. It all seems very cloak and dagger, doesn't it? "Need to know basis" and all that.

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

06 Nov 2008 at 23:21 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

Who to believe, who to believe...

How about both of them.

Regina said that the absence of staff would cause the Tournament Points to be delayed and put out with the November 13th Update. She never said that it also caused the title balance to be delayed - it was just instantly assumed that the title balance was also pushed back.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

06 Nov 2008 at 23:30 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

How about both of them.

Regina said that the absence of staff would cause the Tournament Points to be delayed and put out with the November 13th Update. She never said that it also caused the title balance to be delayed - it was just instantly assumed that the title balance was also pushed back.

When she says an update was pushed back due to the absence of a staff member and another update due the same day was pushed back, it seems like the absence of the staff member also caused the delay of the title balance. She said there was an absence of a staff member and the title balance was pushed back, she never said the title balance was purposely delayed. Maybe Regina is confused, maybe I was confused (I'm assuming I was), but she should be making things like this more clear.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

06 Nov 2008 at 23:37 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt

And WE don't need to buy their next game.

Threats like those are about as useless as internet petitions.

Gamer: "Yeah well...*splutter spluterr* I'm not going to buy your next game! Neener!"

Gaming Company: "Fine. *shrug* We have multiple venues of marketing. There's always another generation of gamers coming through."

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

06 Nov 2008 at 23:37 - 66

Sound like more BS to me. Regina...you hardly ever give us any information and now it seems that you're giving us lame unnecessary excuses. Fail.

Serenity...when the reputation of the company spreads like wildfire through the gaming community, it affects their sales and the likelihood of that next generation of gamers being interested in their product. When they make a sequel to a game and piss off the original players of that game, they lose a big fanbase and make for a wealth of information about their business practices for new players to base their purchasing decisions on.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

06 Nov 2008 at 23:47 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

wealth of information about their business practices for new players to base their purchasing decisions on.

That "wealth of information" you find in gaming forums is nothing but subjective OPINION.

Anyone who makes a decision about a company based on posts like "Anet Phailz" need their head read.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

06 Nov 2008 at 23:50 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

Threats like those are about as useless as internet petitions.

Gamer: "Yeah well...*splutter spluterr* I'm not going to buy your next game! Neener!"

Gaming Company: "Fine. *shrug* We have multiple venues of marketing. There's always another generation of gamers coming through."

You missed the point entirely... but that is to be expected...

I didn't threaten to not buy the next game. I was pointing out that they do these updates to keep the installed base around. The installed base will most likely be 100% business on the ist day of the game. The larger that installed base the larger the 1st day/week of sales will be.

Updates, events, etc, are to try to maintain the size of the installed/active base of customers. They aren't done because they like us.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

07 Nov 2008 at 00:25 - 69

And I still believe you're over estimating your power as a consumer.

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

07 Nov 2008 at 02:02 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

How about both of them.

Regina said that the absence of staff would cause the Tournament Points to be delayed and put out with the November 13th Update. She never said that it also caused the title balance to be delayed - it was just instantly assumed that the title balance was also pushed back.

Correct.

We had planned to separate the builds and split them to a build on November 6 for tonics, skill balances, and tournament points (points delayed to Nov 13) and a build on November 13 for the title re-balance. This decision has been in place for a while.

Massive Fire Balls

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Gangsters In The Hood

P/

07 Nov 2008 at 02:10 - 71

so the skill update is still on for today?? it is a little late

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

07 Nov 2008 at 02:18 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massive Fire Balls

so the skill update is still on for today?? it is a little late

It's late in the day for us, yes.

If you're saying the update is "late" today, er... Where are you getting your scheduling information?

Massive Fire Balls

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Gangsters In The Hood

P/

07 Nov 2008 at 02:21 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

It's late in the day for us, yes.

If you're saying the update is "late" today, er... Where are you getting your scheduling information?

just saying its a little late at night for me

sry

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

E/

07 Nov 2008 at 02:25 - 74

Since you don't do in game chats that I have ever seen....Where should we be getting our information from?

You guys stopped doing in game chats and now I need to check like 14 different places to see if there is any new news. I need to read your wiki page, Gaile's Wiki Page, Linsey's Wiki page, Guru, + other fan sites????

*oh yeah* + the Guild Wars Website, and wikis developer notes...... the list goes on.

esthetic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

Fantasy Island

[Qtie]

R/Mo

07 Nov 2008 at 14:59 - 75

Uhhggg!!!

By doing this Xunlai Tourney House Reward pts system, ANet created expection from all who make predictions monthly and has phailed to meet them for so many for the last three or four months.

Just get rid of the Xunlai Tourney House Reward Pts all together for predictions.

Problem solved!!

The complainers kinda remind me of what people on public aid (welfare) do when their aid checks get delayed or cut.... Like aid checks the XTH reward pts has the unfortunate tendancy to make certain people dependant and lazy. Some players now generally think that the monthly reward pts for 10-20 Z Keys per account is an entitlement and not a bonus. This prediction system was intended to make GW more entertaining and make players more happy, but it has ended up making people pissed off.

The First Silvari

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

No One Will Have Me

Mo/

07 Nov 2008 at 19:09 - 76

Oh noes!! Anet cant stop the XTH prediction rewards!! I bought 5 copies of GW on sale (7.99 a copy) just because of this!!

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

07 Nov 2008 at 21:33 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

That "wealth of information" you find in gaming forums is nothing but subjective OPINION.

Anyone who makes a decision about a company based on posts like "Anet Phailz" need their head read.

You are underestimating the importance of "Word of mouth". Besides unhappy customers tell 9 people, happy tell 5. If a friend tells me the game and/or the company is shit, I am not going to buy it or any product from the company.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

07 Nov 2008 at 22:20 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by The First Silvari

Oh noes!! Anet cant stop the XTH prediction rewards!! I bought 5 copies of GW on sale (7.99 a copy) just because of this!!

Beats buying gold any day doesn't it...

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

07 Nov 2008 at 23:28 - 79

We got the update for skills in the end and these points don't come until next week so why complain? As stated it was kind of obvious that both reasons that were given were genuine, why would they lie as such? Then you say that Regina doens't do anything. How many times does it have to be said that She does alot of other things besides talk to players.. Giving information? - its best not to say stuff as they could change their mind at any point and it will upset alot more people.

Kronos Ledaloth

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Italy

Spirits From Hell [SH]

E/P

08 Nov 2008 at 19:57 - 80

Nice, 13th november we'll get our tournament points