After the dissapointing effect of ursan nearly everybody has made the Legendary Vanquisher-Title "by the way".
Probably it´s time for a Hardmode2, where the levels of the enemys are 2-5 lv higher than in the hardmode that actually exists. Maybe with 2 Elites.
Or where every character is just able to take a max of 5 skills in his skillbar.
Hardmode the second chapter
Amelie De Germania
realtalk916
or maybe, an extreme HM where u can only group with 8 real ppl, andn o heroes and henchies
/signed
could keep the game going, iono bout ur idea of 5 skills, lack a lot of stradegy
/signed
could keep the game going, iono bout ur idea of 5 skills, lack a lot of stradegy
Mayda
well, not rly sure
more titles = bad idea
no titles = no interest, viable only for farming
canceling old titles till ppl make new HM = worst idea ever
think Harder-than-hard mode could be fun, not sure if it would have different impact than for farmers though
would rather see current HM live a bit (especially elite missions) than inventing something new which would take the rest of active ppl from there
more titles = bad idea
no titles = no interest, viable only for farming
canceling old titles till ppl make new HM = worst idea ever
think Harder-than-hard mode could be fun, not sure if it would have different impact than for farmers though
would rather see current HM live a bit (especially elite missions) than inventing something new which would take the rest of active ppl from there
Amelie De Germania
To think abou a harder hardmode was coming when the ursan skill was fixed. At that time a lot of players we know and that came to ur guild still played just ursan until that fix. So one statement we often heard was that they did not know another way to finish some titles. Some of them were really unable to play their "real" classes.
But a lot of players finished their titles in that way. I think NOW (without ursan) a secon Vanquisher title will be a real challenge =)
But a lot of players finished their titles in that way. I think NOW (without ursan) a secon Vanquisher title will be a real challenge =)
I Will Heal You Ally
I'd rather see in HM2 12 party size... else it's just boring as the regular HM
/notsigned
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SkekSister
Not everyone chose to use Ursan, so HM was in some (few admittedly) places rather hard. Rather than a new harder mode it would be better if those who did use Ursan to complete it had the option to reset the title and do it 'properly' or it was forcibly done for them, though I doubt this is actually possible...
/Notsigned
/Notsigned
upier
So the suggestion is to basically take the worst things about HM and multiply them?
Sure, lets destroy the last bit of fun that was left in PvE after the disaster of HM1.
Sure, lets destroy the last bit of fun that was left in PvE after the disaster of HM1.
Candra
/Signed for more challenging content or game options and I agree on their giving titles as long as it is really challenging
SmokingHotImolation
lol, is this serious?
Shasgaliel
I think most people did vanquisher without Ursan anyway. On the side note HM would be more challenging if you do it with henchmen only.
People complain that something is too easy and they use consumables, ask guild for help, use exploits, ask for run and copy builds from pvx. Introducing higher level monsters will not help here.
I saw in one of the threads really nice suggestion. It was giving monsters random abilities. So people would be forced to use more balanced builds and adapt depending which ability monsters use at the given moment. Then it would be more about skill and challenge.
People complain that something is too easy and they use consumables, ask guild for help, use exploits, ask for run and copy builds from pvx. Introducing higher level monsters will not help here.
I saw in one of the threads really nice suggestion. It was giving monsters random abilities. So people would be forced to use more balanced builds and adapt depending which ability monsters use at the given moment. Then it would be more about skill and challenge.
Luminarus
Most people did HM with Ursan simply because doing it without it was gimping urself. I hated ursan, would rather take an extra 15 minutes doing it w/o ursan then bore myself for that time. However, I know of several people who did every single thing in the game Ursan, and finished 1 week after Ursan was nerfed (I think he just had agent left to max when ursan was nerfed.)
However, this Idea is just bad. Id rather they make HM different, maybe give the mobs random options, like having 4 possible bars for each enemy (excluding bosses) and a different bar could be chosen. Would make it more like pvp.
However, this Idea is just bad. Id rather they make HM different, maybe give the mobs random options, like having 4 possible bars for each enemy (excluding bosses) and a different bar could be chosen. Would make it more like pvp.
komma
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Originally Posted by Amelie De Germania
After the dissapointing effect of ursan nearly everybody has made the Legendary Vanquisher-Title "by the way".
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so this post is mainly due to you being spiteful towards others having accomplished legendary vanquisher. regardless of how they got it they still have it...and if you didnt get the memo, ursan has been nerfed....conclusion: less people will be getting legendary vanq...so maybe that alone will help you sleep better at night.
ah yes and one more thing....most people owe thier vanq titles to a little thing called sabway....check it out
MStarfire
I did Legendary Vanquisher without Ursan...
Candra
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I did Legendary Vanquisher without Ursan...
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... So other methods do exist! I'm all for new content if it can be 'challenging enough' whether with a higher level for foes, evolved AI or random skill bars (like Luminarus suggested for the later).
isamu kurosawa
Yeah, then people who find NM hard can complain till its reduced into cuddly animal mode.
komma
heh stuffy mode.
lishi
to get a real hardmode "Save yourself" and "there is nothing to fear" need still be nerfed.
Alex Dimitri
Well i did LV before Ursan, was harder but it did payed off ! As far it goes with some Extreme HM i`m not for that idea, that`s like u beat already dead horse to make him run faster !!!
This game needs some new fresh content if it`s too survive to sequel !!!
This game needs some new fresh content if it`s too survive to sequel !!!
Mr. G
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or maybe, an extreme HM where u can only group with 8 real ppl, andn o heroes and henchies
/signed could keep the game going, iono bout ur idea of 5 skills, lack a lot of |
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anyway, beware of Power Creep
Kook~NBK~
/notsigned.
Nerfing Ursan brought back a lot of the challenge to HM, especially when it comes down to completing Vanquish/Guardian titles.
Now, just because many people DID get their LV / LG titles using Ursan, many others DIDN'T. As with any title, only the person playing the character will ever know how "cheaply" they came by that title.
Nerfing Ursan brought back a lot of the challenge to HM, especially when it comes down to completing Vanquish/Guardian titles.
Now, just because many people DID get their LV / LG titles using Ursan, many others DIDN'T. As with any title, only the person playing the character will ever know how "cheaply" they came by that title.
Blayza Baygo
As a person who is 8 zones away from legendary vanquisher and 50 pts away from legendary master of the north, all done post ursan nerf. I think this is a horrible idea.
If you want it harder, dont bring sabway bring MoX, Goren with Frenzy and HealSig, and Pyre with Quickshot
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If you want it harder, dont bring sabway bring MoX, Goren with Frenzy and HealSig, and Pyre with Quickshot
/notsigned
Hanma l
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If you already got the title make another char and go vanquishing again h/h. I think you are one of the monks who got their title HBing for 6 ursans. I vanquished NF h/h and going through Factions and Proph with my friend atm. We are doing 2 man discord way and i find it to be rather ezy to HM this way. This looks basically like another thread demanding more grind cuz u feel like you need for this game to keep you occupied. Here's a thought go out play some sports give gw a rest u dnt need to be playing 24/7 no wonder it has gotten boring for u.
If you already got the title make another char and go vanquishing again h/h. I think you are one of the monks who got their title HBing for 6 ursans. I vanquished NF h/h and going through Factions and Proph with my friend atm. We are doing 2 man discord way and i find it to be rather ezy to HM this way. This looks basically like another thread demanding more grind cuz u feel like you need for this game to keep you occupied. Here's a thought go out play some sports give gw a rest u dnt need to be playing 24/7 no wonder it has gotten boring for u.
Shayne Hawke
If you make a new HM, people will find another easy way to combat that, and the new title will be just as easily obtained.
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Amelie De Germania
I did not imagine that this idea would polarize so much. I play Guild Wars since nearly three years an because i have a very high online time i play every quest and mission very often. To help players in my guild and with every class in that is available in the game. I did not force to get new titles absolutely, but i am looking for a challenge for me. Something that will make it needful to play together, to skill and think about ways to clean areas.
I know that it is surely possible that anyone will find a way for making that in an easy way, but who knows....
I hope everybody knows my intention is just to find a new challenge for players that are a little bit bored of playing the same things all the time. =)
I know that it is surely possible that anyone will find a way for making that in an easy way, but who knows....
I hope everybody knows my intention is just to find a new challenge for players that are a little bit bored of playing the same things all the time. =)
Skyy High
Eh, idk about you, but in the height of UB, people were farming elite missions, not running vanquishes. I still never saw a PUG looking to vanquish any area with UB in all of that time.
I Will Heal You Ally
I want normal mode chapter 2!!!
realtalk916
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to get a real hardmode "Save yourself" and "there is nothing to fear" need still be nerfed.
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dont say that, i love those skills
its that shadow form that needs to be taken away
Amelie De Germania
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If you already got the title make another char and go vanquishing again h/h. I think you are one of the monks who got their title HBing for 6 ursans. |
I did not say that there must appear a new title, but maybe some special drops. I think there are a lot of possible ways to get it interesting to play a HM2.
The max-max title is 30 - i would hate it by myself if there will be 35 for example when my way isnt´t very far
FlamingMetroid
/notisigned
OP's implementation is horrible
OP's implementation is horrible
Reverend Dr
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So the suggestion is to basically take the worst things about HM and multiply them?
Sure, lets destroy the last bit of fun that was left in PvE after the disaster of HM1. |
Big numbers = fun.
jaximus
new hm- no pve skills, no heroes, no henchmen. people need to learn to play the class they chose, heres the best way
Shursh
just give HM mobs better AI; or go into DOA with a random PUG, that should be enough challenge.
Rhamia Darigaz
harder-than-hardmode should be just like normal mode except all the monsters are controlled by ppl who are good at guild wars
that'll filter out all the scrubs
that'll filter out all the scrubs
little vivi
HM was nice as it gave people the option to go back, but not have a cake walk. There is little to be gained by upping the ante. One could always try beating the game again with a different team makeup.
If you are looking for a challenge or just something new to do in GW, go PvP. It is never the same twice.
in all seriousness,
-vivi
If you are looking for a challenge or just something new to do in GW, go PvP. It is never the same twice.
in all seriousness,
-vivi
Sir Pandra Pierva
if you want a challenge make a gvg based guild and get to top 50 guilds
Amelie De Germania
My intention is PvE, not PvP. I have a lot of friends here in GW and i don´t want to play just with a few poeple. But that is really needet if i would make a career in PvP i think. We often play BK - but just for fun. And we surely played AdH a little. But that was just for fun, too.
One reason is that we try to take players in our group that did not have a rank. And i think they won´t be able to find a group without a rank.
To say: "Play PvP" is a very simple answer, and unfortunately no solution of my problem.
One reason is that we try to take players in our group that did not have a rank. And i think they won´t be able to find a group without a rank.
To say: "Play PvP" is a very simple answer, and unfortunately no solution of my problem.
lishi
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dont say that, i love those skills
its that shadow form that needs to be taken away |
Paragon fall asleep for boredom.
Monk fall asleep for boredom.
dont say stuff like but teh hex!
any paragon who has some grey matter (who didn't fall asleep for boredom) can call the hex.
any monk who has some grey matter (who didn't fall asleep for boredom) can remove the hex.