Is This True?

Ok i saw some video of guildwars on youtube and there was this guy who had posted a comment and il quote> Bad things with guildwars is that you cant meet any players out in the world more than your partymembers, you cant jump, the world feels like its not alive. It doesnt feel like an mmo at all I think.>

Is What he said true? Please Tell Me its not

That's all true. Its not an MMO.

You meet people in towns, and if you wanna meet people in explorable areas you do quests, missions with them.

"cant jump" seriously to all the wow people, that say gw is bad because you cant jump...thats pretty sad lol

I suggest you get a trail key, and see for yourself

This. Guild Wars is not an MMO nor was it ever intended to be.

Well, actually with all the grind it kinda is, but hopefully next week it won't be anymore.

You can cyber in towns if you want...mmorpg enough for ya?

I love the fact that the world is for you and your party members. I don't want the world where i meet people. People tend ks and or spawn camp bosses.

Its actually really good, get a trial key and try it. If you dont like it, thats fine, but I personally never regretted playing gw (+ 1 off fee is nice)

lol'd


to make it legit, It's not an mmo, its a corpg

The two things that you mentioned - the instancing of explorables, and the lack of jumping - are two of GW's draws for a lot of people. Meeting people out in the world is nice...until you get spawn-camped, or people steal your kills/drops/bosses. As for jumping, I have no idea what kind of sophomoric, idiotic mind can possibly utter the thought, "This game sucks, I can't jump!" Hopping around like a kangaroo on crack both breaks that ever-desired immersion that people always seem to be on about, and is just annoying to boot. Towns are busy enough as is; if half the population was constantly bouncing up and down, it would make singling out a single person a nightmare, and it would look stupid as hell.

Guild Wars is an MMO like Diablo 2 is an MMO.

and for the sheltered, that means that economy is globalized within the game, and gameplay is not. Sure, you can play wiith up to 7 other people in an instance, but you don't get the same 'vast' sense that you get with a true MMO.

its mmorpg enough for me, ifyouknowwhatimsayin ;D

Would you really want to meet idiots outside the towns as well as in.

People would be recruiting for guilds selling items

Following the party drawing mobs to the party to wipe em out.

Stealing drops attacking the party esp anyone they think is after a survivor title.

Generally the game would become a total waste of time, anyone who would want this must imo fall into two groups.

1 someone who believes that people are mostly decent and the above would only happen on rare occasions.

2 someone who wants to do all of the above and more for fun

I hear WOW is just the thing you are looking for, tell them I sent you.

I'd say besides corpg its mmorpg too. I also think that the party system is awesome. Since it's basically only fighting in explorable areas. It would be different if it was more like exploring like in WoW. But if I've to fight, I prefer doing it with party members instead of random noobs.

the world feels like it's not alive huh...?

Just for u to know, it's NOT alive coz it's just a game =) (i'm sorry u had to find out this way... =/ )
if u want the world to be alive just get off of the screen

you can't jump?!
but last time i checked "/jump" was still functioning!
(i know that's not what he meant xP)

100% agreed. i stopped playing a few mmos and focused on gw for that reason. i love love love instances. and now that ive seen what its like to play a game thats instanced so i dont need to deal with kill stealers and mob campers, i dont think id ever play one that isnt. at least not without quietly whimpering to myself (we'll see how gw2 is. since i believe they said not all of it will be instanced)

Sorry; couldn't resist.

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was wondering when it would come lol

But on topic, i find this way better than some random tart coming and jumping on my head while im doing something.

I just wanna play the game with friends, and in GW i can.

WoW and GW are 2 different games and should not be compared to each other. I play both and like them each for different reasons. What I tell people is play both and see which one you you like better.

You have been victim of WoW propaganda.

No, you can't jump. No, you can't meet any other people outside cities. But when you get to the game, you notice how good solution that was.

Ah I thought it was like wow, with everyone around, thats why its free xD but a game like wow but free would sure stand out , but hey i still think its better than wow, but just one thing> If We Cant see people outside in the world besides our party members, then....

1- Where are we gonna find party members?
2- At Least in Towns we can see everyone that is logged in to the game right?

I Just Thought it was more vast, who cares bout noobs or kill stealers, certain MMOs have a thing that only the person who killed that monster can pick up the item for a certain time of course, and even if we have noobs bothering us or spamming, theres the whole fun of MMOS! Meeting tons of people in a single game! Talking, having fun etc! Ive always been search for a game like that but with good graphics and a famous one lol, I looked at GW i saw it had no fees, and i thought: Is this the perfect game? but then i found out that theres this *Catch* But............ I still wanna play it, i still wanna be part of it it looks awsomely well, and even if you only meet pople in towns, who cares? haha as long as there will be guild wras and pvp fights, everythings fine

PS: But what about when theres certain big events, like.... New Year Celebration, wont that ever take place outside of towns?

I sure will miss the: *Hey, im at......... Come meet me, then we can go to.......* but i see that will have to change xD Its just gonna be hard to get used to a game that doesnt feel like a whole nother world, but hey who knows? Guild Wars Might still give me that feeling, will see


Stupid PS: When the creators of guild wars decided it wouldnt have any fees, and then they ahd to decide if either it would be a fully MMO like WoW or just like it is now, they didnt decide it NOT to be a fully MMO cause it wouldnt ahve fees right? xD or Di they just decided it this way since it would be a great experience for players? I mean they were kinda smart: Oh those players want a Full MMO with awsome graphics, awsome everything for free? Not a chance! lol, but seriously.. They didnt decide it would be this way cause it wouldnt have fees right?

Lol I get your Point Seeing it that way, IF there are those kinds of noobs spammers kstealres etc in wow, than guild wars sure is better than wow for that matter, Like i said: Im gunna give guild wars a try, and even knowing tht its not a full MMORPG, i still wanna play cause seeing how the game looks just sort of attracted me to it xD

True, you can't jump, and although the maps are designed with that in mind, it occasionally gets annoying.

The instancing isn't IMO a problem - you have the people you want to be there, there, and if you want more, there's always the towns.

But for me one of the nicest aspects of GW is the graphics, which ranges from beautiful to claustrophobic to scary.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
But really GW isn't a true MMO, at least in the sense of WoW or EQ. It's still a good game though, and if you like people just go to a town, many ppl there :/
Jumping is overated imo unless you can dodge stuff....that'd be cool.
If GW doesn't feel alive, neither should WoW.

Go to http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/ArenaNet and read the History section. Then you will see that Guild Wars was deliberately designed to be different than most MMO's. There are other quotes at http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2 in the articles/interviews list at the page bottom, but this is one of the more interesting and sort of sums up most GW players feelings.

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Oh, something near and dear to my heart:

We are not removing instances, not at all. There's no way we're going to buy into loot stealing, griefing, boss camping, and all that other stuff. (Excuse personal note here: I got my introduction to the downside of non-instanced missions long ago, in an early MMO. My friend and I finally made it into a major destination: a dungeon with a high-level boss. I looked around and then asked my friend, "Why are we standing here? Why are all these other people standing here?" He responded, "The boss spawns every six minutes. Looks like we have about 11 groups in front of us, so we'll be able to kill the boss, get the loot, and move on in just over an hour." I seriously and truly thought he was joking! He wasn't. )

Yes but just because missions had those downsides, it doesnt make MMOS bad, it might even have spammers and some killstealers, but every game has an idiot, and thats just normal, now, just cause every game has bad players doesent mean its bad and doesnt mean you have to create a whole different, thing, did he even consider if people woud like that new idea? Thats why MMOS are great, they make themselves feel like worlds and not games.

BUT Like i said> He didnt know if people would like tht idea, and appearantly they did Millions of them And i bet I will too <) All im saying is HAVING TO WAIT CAUSE OF OTHER PLAYERS ISNT A BAD THING, thats what Online gaming]sabout, LOADS AND LOADS OF PLAYERS, of course it would have down-sides, everything has down-sides. But saying that whole situation with loads of players afecting your gameplay is annoying, is just so not true, MMOS have very little down-sides, and they rock! And I bet GW DOES TOO! Thats why il give it a try, i understand your opinion perfectly

Who Knows? Il Probably Love it


PS> Couldnt find what you were talking about in the history section, just the names of creators of arenanet, if you could show me where id appreaciate it


THIS THREAD CAN BE CLOSED KNOW I GOT TEH IDEA CLEARED

But At Leas Players have a friend list, or a place where they can register players names and see when theyre online right? Or a Chat Channel where you can talk to the desired player privatly right? You know... arrange a time to meet with our friends in a town and all that so we can leave on a mission. Im sure it has that correct? I mean, theyre not gunna cut THE ENTIRE contact with people...... are..... they? Cause it would be plain stupidity if you meet a person, party with him or her, and then when you leave, and when you return the next day, youre prob never going to see that person again, thus making it a game only focused on US, thus no need for online play -.-, nah they wouldnt do that, or... would they?

Yes, players do have a friends list. Another nice feature about GW's social system is that it's account based rather than character based - so instead of having a million different entries to stay in contact with a single friend who alt hops a lot, you only need one character name and you'll be able to instantly look up your friend regardless of which character he's currently playing with.

Guild Wars does have a friend list. There is also the Guild system - if you join a guild you will have a roster that displays all the members as ether online or offline. You can also talk to your guild on the "Guild Channel". Guilds also get guild halls making meeting up even easier. As for private chat channels, there is the "Whisper" option which acts like a PM to the person your wanting to contact.

WooT! K Thx Guys For Your Info, This Thread Can Be Closed Now.

Guild Wars WooT!

keyword being "early"
newer mmo's have improved in this aspect


gw imo has one of the best chat/contact/friends list system

and tbh it also makes it teh easiest to meet up and play wit friends/other ppl
free travel and centralized outposts for grouping

no need to spend hrs of travelling to meet up wit ppl
jus open up ur map, double-click on the place, and ur there instantly

Uh, yeah, it is. A very bad thing indeed.

If you're so interested in socializing that you play MMO's to wait in line, then maybe you should consider a graphical chat program instead, like Habbo Hotel or Second Life.